Re: CR lost in a lost world of Nonuts Golden Peabutter

[Guest guest]

I'm with you. I buy Trader Joe's salt free peanut butter. Nothing in it

but peanuts.

I have no idea why this Nonuts stuff would be considered a CRONIE food.

on 5/3/2005 1:59 PM, Siegfried at amco@... wrote:

> CR is great, but surely should be also promoting healthy eating of

> REAL food, and nothing is quite so natural as REAL fresh peanut

> butter - no additives, chemicals etc. unlike the sanitized,

> deodorized etc. chemical commercial PBs. So now we have to

> invent " Nonuts Golden Peabutter " complete with " CANOLA OIL, ICING

> SUGAR (CONTAINS CORN STARCH), MONOGLYCERIDE ... " . Not fotr my tummy

> thanks ...

[Guest guest]

Just for those allergic to peanuts, perhaps.

On 5/3/05, Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...> wrote:

> I'm with you. I buy Trader Joe's salt free peanut butter. Nothing in it

> but peanuts.

>

> I have no idea why this Nonuts stuff would be considered a CRONIE food.

>

>

> on 5/3/2005 1:59 PM, Siegfried at amco@... wrote:

>

> > CR is great, but surely should be also promoting healthy eating of

> > REAL food, and nothing is quite so natural as REAL fresh peanut

> > butter - no additives, chemicals etc. unlike the sanitized,

> > deodorized etc. chemical commercial PBs. So now we have to

> > invent " Nonuts Golden Peabutter " complete with " CANOLA OIL, ICING

> > SUGAR (CONTAINS CORN STARCH), MONOGLYCERIDE ... " . Not fotr my tummy

> > thanks ...

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Well also for those who try to avoid things where 70% of the calories

are from fat (peanuts). And, remembering that in the recent Crete

study posted here a couple of months ago, those in Crete who get the

most heart disease are those who consume the most oleic acid - the

largest single fat ingredient in peanuts.

Oleic is better than trans and myristic, of course. Or perhaps one

should say 'much less bad'. But if the Crete study stands up, oleic

certainly does not appear to be on the healthy side of neutral.

Just to be the devil's advocate, for a change : ^ )))

Rodney.

> >

> > > CR is great, but surely should be also promoting healthy eating

of

> > > REAL food, and nothing is quite so natural as REAL fresh peanut

> > > butter - no additives, chemicals etc. unlike the sanitized,

> > > deodorized etc. chemical commercial PBs. So now we have to

> > > invent " Nonuts Golden Peabutter " complete with " CANOLA OIL,

ICING

> > > SUGAR (CONTAINS CORN STARCH), MONOGLYCERIDE ... " . Not fotr my

tummy

> > > thanks ...

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yeah, yeah- this study shows X, this one Y, etc.

Here's some info from you friendly peanut perveyor

FDA Affirms Health Claim that a Handful of Peanuts Daily

May Help Keep the Heart Doctor Away

Albany, GA, July 15, 2003 -- The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA)

affirmed a health claim that peanuts and other nuts may reduce the

risk of heart disease when consumed daily in small amounts. This

action is based on a large body of epidemiological and clinical

studies showing a 25-50% reduction in the risk of heart disease when 1

to 2 ounces of peanuts or nuts are consumed 5 or more times a week.

The approved claim says " Scientific evidence suggests but does not

prove that eating 1.5 ounces of most nuts, such as peanuts, as part of

a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol may reduce the risk of

heart disease. See nutrition information for fat content. " One of the

strongest studies presented to FDA was a six-month controlled study

done at Pennsylvania State University, which showed that diets that

included peanuts and peanut butter daily reduced the risk of heart

disease by 21% as compared to the average American diet and by 12%

compared to a low-fat diet. Subjects following the " peanut diet "

lowered total cholesterol by 11% and the bad LDL cholesterol by 14%.

Triglycerides were also lowered but the good HDL cholesterol was

maintained. (1)

Americans consume an average of six pounds of peanuts and peanut

butter per person each year. Recent US Department of Agriculture data

shows that 68% of the " nuts " eaten in the United States are split

evenly between peanuts and peanut butter, about 6% are almonds, 6% are

coconuts, 5% are pecans, 5% are walnuts, and 10% are all other nuts

combined. (2) This data is consistent with an earlier study by Harvard

researchers that shows that about half of the nuts eaten by women in

the Nurses' Health Study were peanuts. (3)

Data from The Nurses' Study has shown that substituting peanuts and

nuts for saturated fat can reduce risk of heart disease by 45% or 30%

when substituted for refined carbohydrate. Other large population

studies, such as the Adventists Health Study, the Iowa Women's Health

Study and the Physicians Heath Study, all show a linear relationship

between cardioprotective benefits and peanut and nut consumption.

(4-6) A growing database of clinical studies indicates that part of

the beneficial effect of peanuts and nuts may be due to their fatty

acid composition, particularly when they replace food sources of

saturated fatty acids, as well as refined carbohydrates, in the diet.

Since peanuts are technically a legume, they have the highest amount

of protein of any " nut. " They also are highest in the amino acid

arginine, a precursor to nitric oxide, which helps to dilate blood

vessels and improve blood flow. Peanuts are also a good way to consume

many other beneficial micronutrients in the diet. In addition to

containing over 75 percent of the good unsaturated fat, peanuts are a

good source of fiber, as well as vitamin E, folate, potassium,

magnesium, and zinc, all which are thought to be important to health.

Peanuts also contain bioactive components such as resveratrol, beta

sitosterol, flavonoids, and antioxidants, the benefits of which

nutrition scientists are only beginning to discover. For example, a

recent study done at Purdue University showed that subjects with low

levels of magnesium in their blood were brought up into normal ranges

when they ate peanuts every day.

The Peanut Institute is a non-profit organization that supports

nutrition research and develops educational programs to encourage

healthful lifestyles. For more information on peanuts and health,

visit www.peanut-institute.org.

References:

1. Kris-Etherton, P.M. et al. High-Monounsaturated Fatty Acid Diets

Lower Both Plasma Cholesterol and Triacyglycerol Concentrations.

American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. 1999;70:1009-15.

2. USDA Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion. (2000 December).

Nutrition Insights: The Role of Nuts in a Healthy Diet. Washington,

DC. Retrieved January 30, 2001. www.usda.gov/cnpp

3. Hu, F.B.; Stampfer, M.J.; Manson, J.E.; Rimm, E.; Colditz, G.A.;

Rosner, B.A.; Speizer, F.E.; Hennekens, C.H.; Willett, W.C. Frequent

Nut Consumption and Risk of Coronary Heart Disease in Women:

Prospective Cohort Study. British Medical Journal. 1998;317:1341-5.

4. Prineas, R.J.; Kushi, L.H.; Folsom, A.R.; Bostick, R.M. Letter to

the Editor. New England Journal of Medicine. 1993;329:359.

5. Fraser, G.; Sabate, J.; Beeson, L.W.; Strahan, M.T. A Possible

Effect of Nut Consumption on Risk of Coronary Heart Disease. Arch

Intern Med. 1992; 152:1416-24.

6. Albert, C.M., Gaziano, M., Willett, W.C., Manso, J.E. Nut

Consumption and Decreased Risk of Sudden Cardiac Death in the

Physicians' Health Study. Arch Intern Med. 2002;162:1382-1387.

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On 5/3/05, Rodney <perspect1111@...> wrote:

> Hi :

>

> Well also for those who try to avoid things where 70% of the calories

> are from fat (peanuts). And, remembering that in the recent Crete

> study posted here a couple of months ago, those in Crete who get the

> most heart disease are those who consume the most oleic acid - the

> largest single fat ingredient in peanuts.

>

> Oleic is better than trans and myristic, of course. Or perhaps one

> should say 'much less bad'. But if the Crete study stands up, oleic

> certainly does not appear to be on the healthy side of neutral.

>

> Just to be the devil's advocate, for a change : ^ )))

>

> Rodney.

>

>

> > >

> > > > CR is great, but surely should be also promoting healthy eating

> of

> > > > REAL food, and nothing is quite so natural as REAL fresh peanut

> > > > butter - no additives, chemicals etc. unlike the sanitized,

> > > > deodorized etc. chemical commercial PBs. So now we have to

> > > > invent " Nonuts Golden Peabutter " complete with " CANOLA OIL,

> ICING

> > > > SUGAR (CONTAINS CORN STARCH), MONOGLYCERIDE ... " . Not fotr my

> tummy

> > > > thanks ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi :

Yeah, yeah (!) But all your post there proves is that peanuts are

better (much less bad) than what is eaten by most Americans - the SAD

diet. Since all they show is that if you replace part of the sad SAD

diet with oleic, people who are eating complete junk much of the time

move a little further from death's door than they were. I agree.

But the Crete study (done in people who eat only quite small amounts

of saturated and hydrogenated fats and are therefore NOT next to

death's door like most americans because of the really bad fats)

suggests that if you are not already poisoned by the sat and trans,

then the more oleic acid consumed (from peanuts and elsewhere) the

greater the incidence of CVD.

I think I have suggested the following before. The results of the

Crete study very likely are showing you what the results would be if

A) All americans stopped eating sats and trans, and ten years

from now, with the really bad fats out of the system, a study was

conducted on the effects of oleic on americans.

Thirty years from now, when the american study was finished, people

would be saying " Gee, I didn't know that oleic was atherogenic too,

just somewhat less athergenic than saturated fats " . The Crete study

I believe is saving people in North America thirty years wasted time

thinking oleic is beneficial, when it is likely harmful. Just not as

harmful as sat and trans.

We all make our own decisions. Mine is to not overdo the oleic acid,

(he says, as he munches on a couple more dry roasted peanuts - but

not often!) But it would be nice to see another study done in

another non-SAD population (Japan perhaps) that confirms the Crete

study, before getting on one's (my) high horse!

Rodney.

> > > >

> > > > > CR is great, but surely should be also promoting healthy

eating

> > of

> > > > > REAL food, and nothing is quite so natural as REAL fresh

peanut

> > > > > butter - no additives, chemicals etc. unlike the sanitized,

> > > > > deodorized etc. chemical commercial PBs. So now we have to

> > > > > invent " Nonuts Golden Peabutter " complete with " CANOLA OIL,

> > ICING

> > > > > SUGAR (CONTAINS CORN STARCH), MONOGLYCERIDE ... " . Not fotr

my

> > tummy

> > > > > thanks ...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >