RE: Boiled Garlic Contains No Allicin

[Guest guest]

I nuke garlic in the microwave if I feel a cold coming on. This has worked

well for me for several years now. I can only assume. if not the allicin,

that there's something else in the " cooked " garlic. I heard about this many

years ago from someone who had been eating roasted garlic for colds.

Raw garlic would be tough to take...........

on 4/6/2005 3:44 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

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> Hi folks:

>

> I assume this means that all cooked garlic has no, or much reduced,

> allicin content.

>

> http://www.heartcenteronline.com/myheartdr/home/research-detail.cfm?

> reutersid=5234

>

> http://snipurl.com/duw0

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I use raw garlic to stimulate my immune system if I feel something coming on.

I believe it is even stronger if crushed before ingesting. Since even I am

not going to " chew " raw garlic I chop it up finely and swallow with some fruit

juice.

I believe it works but my experience is one rat anecdotal and there may be some

placebo effect, which doesn't bother me as long as I get the proper result.

I have never noticed anything from the sundry garlic capsules I've tried. The

real stuff

seems to do real stuff...

JR

PS: I never see vampires around either... :-)

-----Original Message-----

From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...]

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:19 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Boiled Garlic Contains No Allicin

I nuke garlic in the microwave if I feel a cold coming on. This has worked

well for me for several years now. I can only assume. if not the allicin,

that there's something else in the " cooked " garlic. I heard about this many

years ago from someone who had been eating roasted garlic for colds.

Raw garlic would be tough to take...........

on 4/6/2005 3:44 PM, Rodney at perspect1111@... wrote:

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>

[Guest guest]

Hi JR/Francesca:

Occasionally, perhaps twice a week, I pry a small/medium clove from a

garlic bulb, peel it, slice it into pill-sized pieces, and then

swallow it as if it is half a dozen pills, with a swig of lemon tea.

Then do a 'mouthwash' with another swig of tea.

This way I leave it to my stomach/intestine to extract the beneficial

components while minimizing the odour issue.

No one has complained about this. Hopefully they are not holding

their tongues (and breath) being 'tactful'.

Periodically, I have been eating ~a pound of small onions, simmered.

This makes them very palatable, but now I wonder if the cooking of

them eliminates most of the benefit.

Rodney.

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[Guest guest]

I don't know for a fact, but I try to get a mix of cooked and uncooked veggies.

My freeze cooking technique seems to preserve the

taste profile of uncooked so I suspect the chemistry will be similar.

Regarding garlic consumption if you consume enough it will literally sweat from

your pores. You will fairly quickly become used to

the smell so you won't notice... you may get some strange looks from friends but

few will really tell you you smell bad... one of

the benefits of living alone.. I don't care.... if you care you will need to

ask.

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Rodney [mailto:perspect1111@...]

Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:24 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Boiled Garlic Contains No Allicin

Hi JR/Francesca:

Occasionally, perhaps twice a week, I pry a small/medium clove from a

garlic bulb, peel it, slice it into pill-sized pieces, and then

swallow it as if it is half a dozen pills, with a swig of lemon tea.

Then do a 'mouthwash' with another swig of tea.

This way I leave it to my stomach/intestine to extract the beneficial

components while minimizing the odour issue.

No one has complained about this. Hopefully they are not holding

their tongues (and breath) being 'tactful'.

Periodically, I have been eating ~a pound of small onions, simmered.

This makes them very palatable, but now I wonder if the cooking of

them eliminates most of the benefit.

Rodney.

[Guest guest]

I have used raw garlic as a kind of ingestible antiseptic for many

years. Once, when I travelled in Mexico, I felt a gurgling in my

stomach which was probably due to something that did not agree with

me. At my next meal, I ordered a chicken broth and 3 cloves of raw

garlic. Half an hour after chewing on the garlic and downing it with

chicken broth, my stomach was back to normal.

According to the following link, garlic's antiseptic properties are

useful in fighting infections and dysentery-causing amoebas.

http://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/AgOutlook/Jun2000/ao272e.pdf

About the breath, you may not be able to tell if you smell like

garlic. Someone else has to tell you. Mouth wash normally does not

eliminate the smell. The only product that I have found to work well

is a mouth spray called " Breath Remedy " (www.breathremedy.com) which

has sodium chlorate as an ingredient. This is supposed to oxidize the

sulfur compounds that produce the garlic breath.

Tony

[Guest guest]

Rodney,

If you just said that because you can't see you chewing raw garlic, I

have a few suggestions:

1. Take garlic cloves as pills, so you swallow them with a little

water or juice or any kind of liquid.

2. Make a good raw soup. This is my favorite option, because I allows

me to a pound of nutrient-rich vegetables with virtually no fat and

tons of phytonutrients in a liquid form, easy to eat, and low-cal

(100 kcal/serving). The recipe:

- Tomato (4 ounces)

- Cucumber (3 ounces)

- Red bell pepper (6 ounces)

- Shallot (1 ounce)

- Garlic (1 ounce)

- Hot pepper/chile (1 ounce)

- Vinegar (optional)

I have one of this before supper just every day.

3. Now and then I make a mix of tahine, raw grated garlic, cumin and

lemon juice, and use it for spreading my raw broccoli florets.

W

--- In , " Rodney " <perspect1111@y...>

wrote:

>

> Hi folks:

>

> I assume this means that all cooked garlic has no, or much reduced,

> allicin content.

>

> http://snipurl.com/duw0

>

> Rodney.

[Guest guest]

Raw garlic in large quantity has an almost 100% success rate for this

mouse when I need to fight off a cold. However, the only way I can get

the 6-10 cloves down is mixed with butter on toast, not very CR-

friendly, I have to admit. But the reward is that the cold can be

avoided. And somehow when I feel a cold coming on, buttered toast has

the additional emotional impact of being a comfort food and making me

feel cared for. And I'm not real hungry at those times anyway.

[Guest guest]

I wonder....?

We often hear testimony like " I never get sick anymore since starting CR " ,

but at the same time reports of sundry strategies to deal with or mitigate

challenges to our well being.

Perhaps we have both a stronger immune response, and a more finely tuned

awareness of our physical state, which combined with proactive strategies

help us prevent minor illnesses from becoming disruptive unlike the general

population.

If we never got sick, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.....:-)

Be well...

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Berkovitz [mailto:michelleberkovitz@...]

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: Boiled Garlic Contains No Allicin

Raw garlic in large quantity has an almost 100% success rate for this

mouse when I need to fight off a cold. However, the only way I can get

the 6-10 cloves down is mixed with butter on toast, not very CR-

friendly, I have to admit. But the reward is that the cold can be

avoided. And somehow when I feel a cold coming on, buttered toast has

the additional emotional impact of being a comfort food and making me

feel cared for. And I'm not real hungry at those times anyway.

[Guest guest]

Yes, as I posted my garlic antidote the other day , I realized that I've

also said that I never get sick anymore. This might seem contradictory to

the fact that occasioally I sometimes do feel like a cold might be coming

on. Perhaps even without the garlic, my presumably stronger immune system

would be able to abort it.

I can say that I no longer get the pre-cold symptoms (terrible sore throats)

which used to signal a bad cold . My pre-cold systems are much milder and

presumably any cold that did come would be milder as well. I'm not about to

give up the garlic to conduct that experiment though.

on 4/7/2005 12:54 PM, at crjohnr@... wrote:

> I wonder....?

>

> We often hear testimony like " I never get sick anymore since starting CR " ,

> but at the same time reports of sundry strategies to deal with or mitigate

> challenges to our well being.

>

> Perhaps we have both a stronger immune response, and a more finely tuned

> awareness of our physical state, which combined with proactive strategies

> help us prevent minor illnesses from becoming disruptive unlike the general

> population.

>

> If we never got sick, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.....:-)

>

> Be well...

>

> JR

[Guest guest]

HI all,

When I lived in Italy they would eat a sprig of parsley to neutralize the

odor of garlic after a meal that threatened friendships. It works! And I

think it reduces the effects of garlic sweat.

best to all,

MM