Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 While I don't know that I would single out omega fat ratios as the only factor, I experience far less soreness and general morning aches and pains than I used to while eating ad lib. I attribute this to a generally lower inflammation level. I believe there are issues with freshness of flax so it needs to be kept refrigerated. I developed a daily salmon lunch habit and find it hard to beat wrt nutrition for the dollar. I don't micromanage fats but generally maintain a zero tolerance for trans fats, with a strong preference for un-sat vs. sat fats. JR -----Original Message----- From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Gay e Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:26 PM Subject: [ ] Omega 6 Omega 3 Ratio Hi everyone Have any of you analysed your Polyunsaturated fats? If so I would like to know the results and what you thought about them. I have been through 'Fat's that heal, fats that kill' twice now and have analysed my last few days fat. Since it's all too easy to get saturated and mono fats, I am taking a lot more interest in EFA's. Since taking Flaxseed, I appear to be much livelier. Do you believe what Udo Ersamus says about getting plenty of LN,LNa in the right proportions and everything else can be manufactured by the body? Not that I would attempt that, nor do I suppose he recommends it, but it is interesting. When taking plenty of flax for example, are fish oil supplements superfluous? (I hate fish unfortunately so the idea of DHA, APA coming via the flax is attractive). Gay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Re: the comments on freshness, would one have to keep seeds in the fridge? I grind mine each day but I must admit I don't refrigerate it - it hadn't occured to me. Not being a fish eater I am hoping for some agreement or discussion about whether the flax will suffice. I do eat cod very occasionally, and king prawns about once a week but that's as close as I get to fish. I guess Omega-6 is easier when you know how, a few walnuts topped mine up today, but I have to say I was surprised how easy it was to be way off beam about what you think you are eating if you don't add it up. Fitday doesn't split Omega-3, Omega-6. I've asked them if they would consider it. Of course, more experienced members might have views that suggest it's not that important. If so I'd like to hear them. Regards, Gay --- In , " " <crjohnr@b...> wrote: > While I don't know that I would single out omega fat ratios as the only > factor, I experience far less soreness and general morning aches and > pains than I used to while eating ad lib. I attribute this to a generally > lower inflammation level. > > I believe there are issues with freshness of flax so it needs to be > kept refrigerated. I developed a daily salmon lunch habit and find > it hard to beat wrt nutrition for the dollar. > > I don't micromanage fats but generally maintain a zero tolerance for > trans fats, with a strong preference for un-sat vs. sat fats. > > JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Hi All, Here are my 2002 November WUSTL NutriBase data, which are somewhat dated, since I take now three times the tree nuts from 8 g to 20 g/day and increased the flaxseeds from 12 g to 25 g/day, increased my 50% olive/50% canola oils from 5 to 10 g/day and reduced my herring from 130 to 100 g/day. Analysis for Alan Pater August 23, 2002 Total Daily Nutrient Intake - All Foods Energy (kcal): 1935.98 % Calories from Protein: 17.40 % Calories from Carbohydrates: 65.57 % Calories from Fat: 15.24 Fatty acids, saturated (g): 5.83 Fatty acids, monounsaturated (g): 11.15 Fatty acids, polyunsaturated (g): 13.62 Omega-3 (g): 3.57 Omega-6 (g): 8.45 Omega-6/3 2.37 Cholesterol (mg): 78.90 Phytosterols (mg): 42.91 Stigmasterol (mg): 1.00 Campesterol (mg): 1.00 Beta-sitosterol (mg): 4.00 Fiber, total dietary (g): 71.87 Vitamin A, IU (IU): 12573.63 Vitamin A, RE (mcg_RE): 1281.71 Thiamin (mg): 1.67 Riboflavin (mg): 1.94 Niacin (mg): 18.87 Pantothenic acid (mg): 4.60 Vitamin B-6 (mg): 2.43 Total Folate (mcg): 349.90 Folic Acid (mcg): 0.00 Folate, food (mcg): 349.90 Folate, DFE (mcg_DFE): 349.90 Vitamin B-12 (mcg): 17.97 Vitamin C, ascorbic acid (mg): 194.07 Vitamin D, IU (IU): 2266.40 Vitamin E (IU): 14.21 Vitamin E (mg_ATE): 9.54 Tocopherol, alpha (mg): 1.04 Tocopherol, beta (mg): 0.00 Tocopherol, gamma (mg): 0.00 Tocopherol, delta (mg): 0.00 Biotin (mcg): 0.00 Vitamin K (mcg): 0.00 Calcium, Ca (mg): 1509.02 Chloride (mg): 0.00 Chromium (mcg): 0.00 Copper, Cu (mg): 3.23 Fluoride (mg): 0.00 Iodine, I (mcg): 0.00 Iron, Fe (mg): 31.22 Magnesium, Mg (mg): 910.34 Manganese, Mn (mg): 13.92 Molybdenum (mcg): 0.00 Phosphorus, P (mg): 1933.44 Potassium, K (mg): 5035.90 Selenium, Se (mcg): 101.28 Sodium, Na (mg): 785.16 Zinc, Zn (mg): 17.65 Alanine (g): 5.48 Arginine (g): 5.17 Aspartic acid (g): 7.21 Cystine (g): 1.15 Glutamic acid (g): 14.75 Glycine (g): 5.46 Histidine (g): 2.19 Isoleucine (g): 3.16 Leucine (g): 7.17 Lysine (g): 4.41 Methionine (g): 1.71 Phenylalanine (g): 3.49 Proline (g): 5.93 Serine (g): 3.64 Threonine (g): 3.02 Tyrosine (g): 2.66 Tryptophan (g): 0.78 Valine (g): 4.01 --- Gay e <@...> wrote: > Hi everyone > > Have any of you analysed your Polyunsaturated fats? If so I would > like to know the results and what you thought about them. > Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@... ____________________________________________________ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Thank you Al, that's very useful. May I ask your reasons for increasing the nuts and flax? I note your EFA intake is higher than Dr Walford recommends. I am trying to decide on whther I can trust the figures he suggests of 1-4% n-6 ..3-1% n-3 If I have calculated correctly, on a 2,000 calorie diet this would give 2-9g of n-6 1-2g of n-3 Figures suggested by Udo Erasmus as being optimal, give 7-13g of n-6 (3-6%) 4g of n-3 (2%) My concerns are based around the fact that, from my own cholesterol tests, EFA's seem to lower my HDL along with the rest but Olive Oil doesn't. I am aware of the fact that lower HDL is not 'necessarily' as relevant as once thought but ...... Regards, Gay > Hi All, > > Here are my 2002 November WUSTL NutriBase data, which are somewhat dated, since I > take now three times the tree nuts from 8 g to 20 g/day and increased the flaxseeds > from 12 g to 25 g/day, increased my 50% olive/50% canola oils from 5 to 10 g/day and > reduced my herring from 130 to 100 g/day. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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