Guest guest Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 Hi folks: Purely speculation here ............ taking this argument one step further ............ if the improved aging response in CR is a result of a slower rate of cell replication (and therefore a slower shortening of telomeres and a longer time before the Hayflick limit is approached/reached) and if we know (at least it is true of drosophila) that carbohydrate restriction is of comparatively minor importance, then the big question may be: " Which is more likely to slow down the rate at which cell replication proceeds - restriction of fat? or restriction of protein? " My **GUESS** is that restricting protein may do more to slow down the cell replication rate than restricting fat. But I believe cell membranes contain a fair amount of fat, so it could plausibly be the fat. Or, logically, perhaps a shortage of EITHER ONE would do the trick, if the issue is that it is an inadequate supply ('bottleneck' if you like) of any single resource necessary for cell replication that slows down the cell replication rate. Indeed it might even be found that restriction of one single micronutrient that is vital for cell replication - but not so vital for normal activities - would be enough to slow the cell replication rate, and thereby delay reaching the Hayflick limit. In other words, which bottleneck is the most effective at slowing the cell replication rate while negatively affecting other biological functions the least? It will be at least five years before we have data from mammals to confirm/refute any of this. But **perhaps** the conventional wisdom with regard to protein intake **may** need to be revised some time soon. Or perhaps Pritikin's view of the world will be confirmed as the correct one? Not just from the point of view of overall health, but as regards extension of maximal lifespan also. I just can't wait to see the results! Rodney. > > Reading an interesting book titled The China Study by Colin > > PhD. In it he states that " only 5-6% dietary protein is required to > > replace the protein regularly excreted by the body (as amino > acids). " > > He says all should be from plant sources. He goes on to say " The > > evidence presented in this book shows that increasing dietary > protein > > within the range of about 10-20% is associated with a broad array of > > health problems, especially when most of the protein is from animal > > sources. " > > > > 5-6%! I've never heard of protein recommendations that low! Has > anyone > > else? > > > > --- In , " edaz19 " <edaz19@y...> wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Im a vegan and recently began CR, i'm having an extremely > difficult > > > time reaching my protein requirement (im 5'4 " and 115 right now I > > > would like to reach 103) I belive my protein requirement if 40g, I > > > barely ingest 20g- that's on a good day. > > > > > > I honestly do not know what to do- I'm not if I have to > relenquish my > > > beliefs to con't this regimine > > > > > > ::sigh:: > > > > > > prior CR i was eating nuts, legumes and grains for protein, but > now i > > > have to cut back on my portions and I simply am not getting enough > > > protein. i can't spend $3 everyday for tofu. > > > > > > i dont know. > > > > > > i know lisa walford is a vegan, how does she do it? > > > > > > i was thinking about buying some soy protein powder but it is very > > > calorie dense and i dont want to rely on special foods. > > > > > > i dont know- very disheartened > > > > > > any advice would be greatly appreicated. > > > > > > edaz19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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