Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Zow! How can I find out what constitutes " a daily 3.5 ounce (100 gram) bar of specially formulated, flavonoid-rich dark chocolate " ? I'm assuming that semi-sweet baking chocolate won't do it? Thanks! Bev --- mstewarthm@... wrote: > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:25:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Al Pater <old542000@...> > Subject: Dark chocolate lowers blood pressure > > Hi All, > > Dark chocolate seems to lower blood pressure, a > publication appears to say in > Hypertension, according to: > > http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/07/19/heart.chocolate.reut/index.html > > The pdf is not yet available. > > --Holy moly: > > For 15 days, half ate a daily 3.5 ounce (100 gram) > bar of specially formulated, flavonoid-rich dark > chocolate, while the other half ate the same amount > of white chocolate. > > Then each group " crossed over " and ate the other > chocolate. > > " White chocolate, which has no flavonoids, was the > perfect control food because it contains all the > other ingredients and calories found in dark > chocolate, " Blumberg said. > > " It's important to note that the dark chocolate we > used had a high level of flavonoids, giving it a > slightly bittersweet taste. Most Americans eat milk > chocolate, which has a low amount of these > compounds. " > > Writing in the journal Hypertension, Blumberg's team > said when the volunteers ate the special dark > chocolate, they had a 12 mm Hg decrease in systolic > blood pressure (the top number in a blood pressure > reading) and a 9 mm Hg decrease in diastolic blood > pressure (the bottom number) on average. > > Blood pressure did not change when the volunteers > ate white chocolate. > > " This is not only a statistically significant > effect, but it's also a clinically meaningful > decline, " Blumberg said. " This is the kind of > reduction in blood pressure often found with other > healthful dietary interventions. " > > Eating dark chocolate also seemed to improve how the > body used insulin, and reduced low density > lipoprotein (LDL) or " bad " cholesterol by about 10 > percent on average. > > --Guess what I'm starting in with this evening, > likely forever (the sacrifices we must make in the > name of enhanced nutrition . . . )? > > Maco > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Folks: the fatty, sugary, dark processed chocolate is likely not CRON friendly. However pure baking (unsweetened) chocolate is something I often eat for a chocolate craving.. I nuke it in the microwave for 1/2 to 1 minute til soft and add sucralose. It's not as good as Godiva, but it's not a bad substitute. The other option is to buy unsweetened cocoa powder. When mixed with a few drops of water and added sucralose, it's delicious. Heat it and it's like hot fudge. on 7/20/2005 3:29 PM, ad min at academy_one@... wrote: Zow! How can I find out what constitutes " a daily 3.5 ounce (100 gram) bar of specially formulated, flavonoid-rich dark chocolate " ? I'm assuming that semi-sweet baking chocolate won't do it? Thanks! Bev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 On the subject of HTN, there are so many errors, I can prove anything as well as this study. A drop of 12 mm Hg is not significant, IMO. First do the measurement with an invasive sensor. Second, do it on hypertensives so you can hear the laugh. Third don't do the measurement right after eating. I once dropped a lot of pressure just by quitting wheat. Enough to drop my betablocker from 300 mg to 100 mg. So if I choose subjects that are sensitive to wheat, I might have a "nice" test. When they run the next test, tell them to include subjects allergic to chocolate. AND run the test more than 15 days please. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: mstewarthm@... Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [ ] dark chocolate Message: 10 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:25:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Al Pater <old542000@...>Subject: Dark chocolate lowers blood pressureHi All,Dark chocolate seems to lower blood pressure, a publication appears to say inHypertension, according to:http://edition.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/07/19/heart.chocolate.reut/index.htmlThe pdf is not yet available.--Holy moly:For 15 days, half ate a daily 3.5 ounce (100 gram) bar of specially formulated, flavonoid-rich dark chocolate, while the other half ate the same amount of white chocolate.Then each group "crossed over" and ate the other chocolate."White chocolate, which has no flavonoids, was the perfect control food because it contains all the other ingredients and calories found in dark chocolate," Blumberg said."It's important to note that the dark chocolate we used had a high level of flavonoids, giving it a slightly bittersweet taste. Most Americans eat milk chocolate, which has a low amount of these compounds."Writing in the journal Hypertension, Blumberg's team said when the volunteers ate the special dark chocolate, they had a 12 mm Hg decrease in systolic blood pressure (the top number in a blood pressure reading) and a 9 mm Hg decrease in diastolic blood pressure (the bottom number) on average.Blood pressure did not change when the volunteers ate white chocolate."This is not only a statistically significant effect, but it's also a clinically meaningful decline," Blumberg said. "This is the kind of reduction in blood pressure often found with other healthful dietary interventions."Eating dark chocolate also seemed to improve how the body used insulin, and reduced low density lipoprotein (LDL) or "bad" cholesterol by about 10 percent on average.--Guess what I'm starting in with this evening, likely forever (the sacrifices we must make in the name of enhanced nutrition . . . )?Maco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 Once? Is the "wheat test" repeatable? Are you wheat sensitive? jwwright wrote: I once dropped a lot of pressure just by quitting wheat. Enough to drop my betablocker from 300 mg to 100 mg. So if I choose subjects that are sensitive to wheat, I might have a "nice" test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Once - forever. Repeatable - it makes me sick if I eat too much of the wrong stuff. I was 64 yo before I found I was sensitive to wheat. The pervasiveness of wheat in our diet is so overwhelming no one believes it. That is, until you get so dam sick, you want to die. IBS. Rice, corn are OK. Could have something to do with the combination of wheat and yeast. If I did a test on people like me, the diff would be overwhelming, like 50 mm Hg. The point is there are MANY things that will vary BP. The only ones that count are those that modify your average pressure over time. Food allergies are many - green beans, citric acid, shrimp, beer, lactose intolerance, whatever. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: AprilCottrel Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [ ] dark chocolate Once? Is the "wheat test" repeatable? Are you wheat sensitive?jwwright wrote: I once dropped a lot of pressure just by quitting wheat. Enough to drop my betablocker from 300 mg to 100 mg. So if I choose subjects that are sensitive to wheat, I might have a "nice" test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Google groups for DASH and jwwright and see what I said (1998) about The DASH diet, before CR, in response to Dr. Colin Roses post. Those were my "nice" words. Chung had some nice words also. If you look in Duke's for herbs you find lotsa stuff that lowers BP (that doesn't work). Later, the DASH diet was modified to include sodium lowering. 's book's interpretation is noteworthy because they took a perfectly good idea and S/C ed it by letting conventional nutritionists design a menu of MEAT, BREAD, with 5 servings of veggies. I eat cups of veggies, fruits - not servings. It's funny, because many people already knew the right stuff to eat. Traveling this summer thru FL, NC, we noticed the restaurants serve meats period. We had to stop in a Olive Garden to get a salad, and wouldn't you know it - they were short of lettuce. In Louisiana, they were out of red beans and rice. Regards. ----- Original Message ----- From: AprilCottrel Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [ ] dark chocolate Once? Is the "wheat test" repeatable? Are you wheat sensitive?jwwright wrote: I once dropped a lot of pressure just by quitting wheat. Enough to drop my betablocker from 300 mg to 100 mg. So if I choose subjects that are sensitive to wheat, I might have a "nice" test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Yeah, yeah, yeah....Any excuse for chooooooocolate!!!!! Gayla Dark Chocolate Dark Chocolate Why It's Healthy: -- Just one-fourth of an ounce daily can reduce blood pressure in otherwise healthy individuals. -- Cocoa powder is rich in flavonoids, antioxidants shown to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol and increase "good" HDL levels. Quick Tip: A dark chocolate bar contains about 53.5 milligrams of flavonoids; a milk chocolate bar has fewer than 14. Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I was thinking the same thing!! From: Gayla <aeranch@...>Subject: Re: Dark Chocolatehealth Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:02 PM Yeah, yeah, yeah....Any excuse for chooooooocolate! !!!! Gayla [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Dark Chocolate Dark Chocolate Why It's Healthy: -- Just one-fourth of an ounce daily can reduce blood pressure in otherwise healthy individuals. -- Cocoa powder is rich in flavonoids, antioxidants shown to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol and increase "good" HDL levels. Quick Tip: A dark chocolate bar contains about 53.5 milligrams of flavonoids; a milk chocolate bar has fewer than 14. Suzi List Owner http://health. groups.. com/group/ HAWK_Health_ Awareness/ http://360.. com/suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Just aiming to please! lol Suzi List Owner health/ http://360./suziesgoats What is a weed? A plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered. From: Gayla <aeranch@...>Subject: Re: Dark Chocolatehealth Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 9:02 PM Yeah, yeah, yeah....Any excuse for chooooooocolate! !!!! Gayla [HAWK_Health_ Awareness] Dark Chocolate Dark Chocolate Why It's Healthy: -- Just one-fourth of an ounce daily can reduce blood pressure in otherwise healthy individuals. -- Cocoa powder is rich in flavonoids, antioxidants shown to reduce "bad" LDL cholesterol and increase "good" HDL levels. Quick Tip: A dark chocolate bar contains about 53.5 milligrams of flavonoids; a milk chocolate bar has fewer than 14. Suzi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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