Guest guest Posted July 6, 2005 Report Share Posted July 6, 2005 I think that it is perhaps not entirely prudent to use total cholesterol reduction and triglyceride reduction as metrics for the determination of the exact degree of " protection " from disease under intense dietary interventions such as caloric restriction. It appears that cholesterol and triglycerides serve at least one helpful function, the prevention of subarachnoid hemmorhages. These kind of " bleeding out " strokes can also be produced in the intraparenchymal vasculature, and this other lesion site has also been associated with diminished cholesterol levels in some previous research. Additionally, other investigators have noted a relationship between " intraparenchymal " hemorrhage and BMI. All of this would lend credence to the idea that you need " some " blood " fats " (triglycerides and cholesterol " , and that there is a " healthy center " of a continuum. Of course, there are going to be interesting interactions with hypertension and the aging process itself, but the relationship between blood " fats " and hemorrhagic stroke keeps showing up regardless. =-=--==-=-=-=-=-=--=-==-=-=- J Clin Neurosci. 2005 Jun 20; [Epub ahead of print] Related Articles, Links Serum lipids as protective factors for subarachnoid hemorrhage. Tokuda Y, Stein GH. Department of Medicine, Okinawa Chubu Hospital, Okinawa, Japan and Harvard School of Public Health, Boston, USA. Identification of common serum lipid profiles in patients with subarachnoid hemorrhage (SAH) may allow a better understanding of its pathogenesis. We conducted a hospital-based case-control study in Japan. One hundred and fifty consecutive cases of spontaneous SAH during a 5-year period were examined and their lipid profiles assessed. Age- and gender-matched controls were identified for each case through random hospital sampling. Median serum total cholesterol was 161 mg/dl (range 77-288) in patients with SAH, and 209 mg/dl (134- 441) in controls (p<0.001). Median serum triglycerides were 95 mg/dl (range 28-589) in SAH and 122 mg/dl (31-371) in controls (p<0.001). A high serum total cholesterol of more than 5.20 mmol/L (200 mg/dl) (odds ratio 0.22 [95% confidence interval 0.12-0.40]) and a high serum triglyceride of more than 1.70 mmol/L (150 mg/dl) (odds ratio 0.29 [95% CI 0.14-0.60]) were independent protective factors for SAH. In conclusion, higher values of both serum cholesterol and triglyceride may be inversely associated with the occurrence of SAH. PMID: 15975790 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] http://tinyurl.com/7o4gp =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stroke. 2004 Jun;35(6):1360-4. Epub 2004 Apr 15. " CONCLUSIONS: Hypercholesterolemia was associated with a lower risk of ICH. We have not found an increased risk of ICH with the widespread use of statins in our population. Given the lack of cholesterol levels in the current study, further studies are needed to determine if lower cholesterol levels secondary to statin use bear the same risk as low cholesterol levels for ICH. " - PMID: 15087556 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/35/6/1360 =--=-=-==-=-=-=-=- " CONCLUSIONS: For Japanese men and women, high BMI was associated with increased risk of coronary heart disease, whereas low BMI was associated with intraparenchymal hemorrhage. " - PMID: 15920029 http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/36/7/1377 =-===--=-=-==--=-=- T. pct35768@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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