Is it me?

March 7, 2001

Mine are blank as well. Perk - are you having problems we can

help you out with?

Ann

(feeling all technical because my computer is finally, finally fixed!!!)

On 6 Mar 2001, at 19:52, 2moons wrote:

> Is it just me ?? I am not getting anything in " Perk28's " emails? Just

> the unsubscribe info...

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March 7, 2001

Yes, Perk28 wants to unsubscribe.

July 22, 2003

I have not been getting e-mails.

Is it me, or are none getting posted?

[Ed. Note: Your membership settings indicate you should be getting individual

emails, so it's probably just us lazy moderators taking the weekend off. ;-)

Ron]

May 17, 2005

Or is this board losing its focus a bit?

The board appears to be getting less technical and a bit more

anecdotal. Just an observation, I may be wrong. If so, I apologize to all.

May 17, 2005

Hi :

Interesting question.

Here is an excerpt from the site's 'Description' on the home page:

" .............. . This group offers a supportive, friendly

environment to share state-of-the-art information for a healthier,

longer life. We value published, peer-reviewed, mainstream scientific

sources and are not interested in psuedo-science. ............. "

Rodney.

> Or is this board losing its focus a bit?

>

> The board appears to be getting less technical and a bit more

> anecdotal. Just an observation, I may be wrong. If so, I apologize

to all.

November 5, 2011

Hi there

Sorry to hear you've had an unproductive visit with your GP but don't let it get you down. You only have to read the hundreds of messages posted on this site on a weekly basis from people who feel let down by their GP's and endos to realise that a huge number of us are being failed…. So NO it's not you!

Someone had written the other day that it doesn't help to "have a go" at GP's etc. well that's easier said than done. We should come away from our appointments feeling that we have been treated in a kind and caring way and even if our GP disagrees with what we say, there's no need for the rudeness and arrogance that we all too often have to deal with. It makes you wonder why some of them actually decided to become doctors… I can think of a few reasons! (I worked in a GP's surgery for a while and it was a real eye opener).

I'd be tempted to put it in writing to your GP telling him/her that you are not happy that your T3 has been withdrawn, as it was making you feel better. It shouldn't be down to the practice manager either to decide whether you get it or not! Maybe you could include some information about suppressed TSH when taking T3.… also, did you take your T3 on the day of your test?

I hope you are feeling a bit better now.

Gill

> Now my Doctor won't put me back on T3 (after what seems to be censorship from the Practice Manager) so I buy it myself because I couldn't cope with the crippling depression and other hypo symptoms which were still present after building up my T4 to 175 mcg.> > Last week I was asked to make an appointment to discuss my recent test results (no lab ranges given) :-> > Free T3 5.6> Free T4 18.2> TSH <0.05

November 5, 2011

Have a look in the files at

thyroid treatment

scroll down until you get to the PULSE article. Written by an endo for the

doctor. It explains how to dose meds and says a low tsh is ok if free t3 is not

over range.... so you are ok if free t3 is in range. (usual range for free

t3 is up to 6.5 or 7)

It's not you.... we can't work out who is getting to these doctors, or why but

they seem hell bent on making many patients suffer!!

x

>

> Last week I was asked to make an appointment to discuss my recent test results

(no lab ranges given) :-

>

> Free T3 5.6

> Free T4 18.2

> TSH <0.05

>

November 6, 2011

I have just checked, because I knew I had replied to this

message previously. At the top of your message (I use Outlook btw) it states

" You replied on 02/11/2011 18.08 " and if you click on that, a box

comes up saying " Find related Messages " - click on that and you get

all the messages that relate to that particular subject, and there is mine -

which I clicked on and the message I wrote to you showed up. Yet, it hasn't

appeared on this forum message board. That is the day my Server was down

and being worked on, and I remember I had 11 messages that I wrote waiting in

my Outbox to be sent, and it appears that once the problem was fixed, that is

when some of the messages disappeared during transmission. However, here is the

message that I wrote in response to you at that time.

" Oh dear, so sorry that you have come up against another

doctor who knows little to nothing as to how they thyroid system works. I would

be very tempted to write him a letter and remind him how well you were

originally on T3 hormone until the endoprat decided to remove it and put you

back on to thyroxine, which we know is an INACTIVE THYROID HORMONE and that it

has to convert to the ACTIVE thyroid hormone T3. It is T3 that every cell in

your body and brain needs to make them function - NOT T4.

Thyroid function test results generally are pretty useless when

anybody is taking thyroid hormone replacement, especially those on any form of

T3 as the results can be flawed, because T3 has such a short half life and it

peaks in the blood 2 to 3 hours after taking it. It matters what time the blood

is drawn. As far as TSH is concerned, the pituitary only secretes thyroid

stimulating hormone (TSH) when it recognises that there is insufficient thyroid

hormone in the blood. Therefore, it has no need to secrete any TSH at all if

there are sufficient levels of thyroid hormone in the blood, and therefore,

it is suppressed. It only rises when it sees there is too little thyroid

hormone in the blood. THAT is why your TSH is suppressed, NOT because you are

taking too much. If you are not having symptoms of hyPERthyroidism then you are

not on too high a dose, but as you are having symptoms of low thyroid, you are

not on the correct dose, or the right thyroid hormone your body needs. Also,

what your doctor is NOT taking into consideration is that you may be suffering

with euthyroid hypometabolism (EH). , Euthyroid Hypometabolism (EH). The

pervasiveness of EH has yet to be recognised by mainstream medicine, but

already is in epidemic proportions. EH is defined as peripheral

resistance to thyroid hormones AT THE CELLULLAR LEVEL. It is not due to a lack

of thyroid hormones. Normal amounts of thyroid hormones and TSH are usually

detected by blood tests; therefore, BLOOD TESTS DO NOT DETECT EUTHYROID

HYPOMETABOLISM. EH is usually inherited. However, environmental toxins may also

cause or exacerbate the problem. TPA believes there are as many as 250,000

citizens in the UK alone who are being refused the thyroid hormone that will

make them well. With those suffering with EH, they need the a\active thyroid

hormone T3 - and NOT the pro-hormone T4.

Don't let your doctors get away with this - they are causing you

actual harm.

Ask also for them to check your levels of iron, transferrin

saturation%, ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper and

zinc and to let you have these results together with the reference range for

each of the tests done, because if any of these are low in the reference range,

no amount of thyroid hormone can be fully utilised at the cellular level until

whatever is low has been properly supplemented.

Hope this helps.

Luv - Sheila "