Re: HB equation put into use

[Guest guest]

brought up a good point in an email. I forgot to say that this

is my total cal not my basal expenditure.

M - I'm still Margarinva....I just changed my id name

--- In , " hmschoolmum " <onslowbb@c...>

wrote:

> I just calculated my kcal for my desired weight. It gave me a number

> of 1664. Do I have to eat less than that to get to my goal weight

then

> use that number to maintain, or do I consume that many daily calories

> to get to my magic number?

>

> Thanks! (I think I know the answer....I just want to keep quiet in

case

> I'm wrong)

>

> M - with a degree in physiology/nutrition one would think I'd know

> this! LOL I guess I'm getting old and rusty.

[Guest guest]

Just to clarify:

If you use the cornell.edu page, the BEE is without getting out of bed. To that is added 25% for ambulating, and more for higher activity levels. But, IMO, it's still important to search out the intake that supports the right weight/activity level for the individual.

I found the HB early on and just guessed 200 was my up and around, and I notice the cornell is 388 for me. I think it overstates the req't for CRONies.

I've been less than that intake for 5 yrs, and rarely do I eat more unless I've done a lot of labor (not usual). I supposed if I worked a regular job (retired), it might have to be higher, but I'd still find that level of lowest intake.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: hmschoolmum

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: HB equation put into use

brought up a good point in an email. I forgot to say that this is my total cal not my basal expenditure.:)M - I'm still Margarinva....I just changed my id name> I just calculated my kcal for my desired weight. It gave me a number > of 1664. Do I have to eat less than that to get to my goal weight then > use that number to maintain, or do I consume that many daily calories > to get to my magic number?> > Thanks! (I think I know the answer....I just want to keep quiet in case > I'm wrong)> > M - with a degree in physiology/nutrition one would think I'd know > this! LOL I guess I'm getting old and rusty.

[Guest guest]

Hi folks.

Just to say that my experience is similar to JW's on this. The

numbers that come out of H-B are a good approximation to start out

with. But, like JW, I also have found that my actual energy

expenditure is less than that predicted by H-B.

So my suggestion is to use H-B to get a rough idea of your resting

metabolic rate (RMR), then to get a more accurate fix, track your

caloric intake for a couple of months while plotting your 7 am weight

daily (at Fitday, perhaps?) so that you can distinguish the trend, if

any, from the substantial daily 'noise' in the weight data.

Or you can go have your RMR measured at fitness clubs - someone said

for $49. (Thanks to whoever that was!)

Rodney.

> > I just calculated my kcal for my desired weight. It gave me a

number

> > of 1664. Do I have to eat less than that to get to my goal

weight

> then

> > use that number to maintain, or do I consume that many daily

calories

> > to get to my magic number?

> >

> > Thanks! (I think I know the answer....I just want to keep quiet

in

> case

> > I'm wrong)

> >

> > M - with a degree in physiology/nutrition one would think I'd

know

> > this! LOL I guess I'm getting old and rusty.

[Guest guest]

I thought about a cupla years ago and asked myself what would I do with it?

If it came out say 2300 RMR, would I start eating more? no.

If it came out 1500 (not likely), would I eat more or less?

I think those are just interesting data after I found out what I should eat.

I had one friend a lady, that found hers was 2300 and she was heavy so she had to start cycling to use it up? Is that what we want to do? So she'd rather eat more and cycle a lot to burn it. Doesn't that create more free radicals?

Thanks to Tony I can say I'm 27% CR.

But I still need to have a weight goal for each year, I think, but maybe I don't have to follow the age/weight/BMR projected by the HB. Or the measured RMR, either. Maybe the heart doesn't age as fast at reduced intake?

I kinda like being able to handle RR ties for my landscaping, at 69yo, 178#, 1800 kcals.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Rodney

Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 9:28 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: HB equation put into use

Hi folks. Just to say that my experience is similar to JW's on this. The numbers that come out of H-B are a good approximation to start out with. But, like JW, I also have found that my actual energy expenditure is less than that predicted by H-B.So my suggestion is to use H-B to get a rough idea of your resting metabolic rate (RMR), then to get a more accurate fix, track your caloric intake for a couple of months while plotting your 7 am weight daily (at Fitday, perhaps?) so that you can distinguish the trend, if any, from the substantial daily 'noise' in the weight data.Or you can go have your RMR measured at fitness clubs - someone said for $49. (Thanks to whoever that was!)Rodney. > Just to clarify:> If you use the cornell.edu page, the BEE is without getting out of bed. To that is added 25% for ambulating, and more for higher activity levels. But, IMO, it's still important to search out the intake that supports the right weight/activity level for the individual. > I found the HB early on and just guessed 200 was my up and around, and I notice the cornell is 388 for me. I think it overstates the req't for CRONies. > > I've been less than that intake for 5 yrs, and rarely do I eat more unless I've done a lot of labor (not usual). I supposed if I worked a regular job (retired), it might have to be higher, but I'd still find that level of lowest intake.> > Regards. >