Re: fructose and orac scores

[Guest guest]

Hi Mamb:

Could you please give us the source for those data? Other sources

give different numbers so it is helpful to know who is saying what.

TIA.

Rodney.

> Hi everyone,

> I looked up some values and the orac scores (per 100 grams) are

highest for:

> wolfberries 25,000

> prunes 5,700

> pomegranates 3000

> blueberries 2,300

> blackberries 2,036

> strawberries 1,220

>

> Also high are Kale 1770

> spinich 1270

>

>

> And berries are relatively low in fructose, so it's double good!

> best wishes to all!

> MM

[Guest guest]

Here is a web site that has some ORAC scores (Notice the UNITS!!)

http://weshobsonperformance.com/articles/nutrition/radical2.htm

Apparently, spices such as cloves have more ORAC per *gram* than 100

grams of Wolfberries. It seems to me that a well-spiced curry would

suffice to give you enough antioxidants. By the way, do residents of

India who eat curry regularly have specially long lives? Isn't that

the reason why you are interested in ORAC values?

Tony

> > Hi everyone,

> > I looked up some values and the orac scores (per 100 grams) are

> highest for:

> > wolfberries 25,000

> > prunes 5,700

> > pomegranates 3000

> > blueberries 2,300

> > blackberries 2,036

> > strawberries 1,220

> >

> > Also high are Kale 1770

> > spinich 1270

> >

> >

> > And berries are relatively low in fructose, so it's double good!

> > best wishes to all!

> > MM

[Guest guest]

> Here is a web site that has some ORAC scores (Notice the UNITS!!)

>

> http://weshobsonperformance.com/articles/nutrition/radical2.htm

>

> Apparently, spices such as cloves have more ORAC per *gram* than 100

> grams of Wolfberries. It seems to me that a well-spiced curry would

> suffice to give you enough antioxidants. By the way, do residents of

> India who eat curry regularly have specially long lives? Isn't that

> the reason why you are interested in ORAC values?

>

> Tony

>

Hi everybody--

It's my understanding that ORAC values are calculated in vitro, and

don't indicate much about actual bioavailability or utilization in the

human body, which may be much lower than the ORAC value suggests. Is

this correct?

For example, from a recent Linus ing Institute reseacrh report:

" Apples and other fruit are considered to be healthy, in part due to

the antioxidant flavonoids they contain. However, these flavonoids are

poorly absorbed into the bloodstream. We found that the consumption of

apples by volunteers resulted in a large increase in the antioxidant

capacity of their plasma, indicating that something other than

flavonoids may be responsible. Our further investigations showed that

fructose, a fruit sugar, in apples stimulated the production of uric

acid in the body, which provided the plasma antioxidant capacity. "

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/fw04/apples.html

-Liz

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz:

That is very interesting because PMID: 9458087 indicates a 49%

reduction in prostate cancer associated with fructose consumption.

" High fructose intake was related to a lower risk of advanced

prostate cancer (multivariate RR, 0.51; CI, 0.33-0.80, for intakes >

70 versus < or = 40 g/day; P, trend, 0.007) "

Hmmmm.

Rodney.

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wrote:

> > Here is a web site that has some ORAC scores (Notice the UNITS!!)

> >

> > http://weshobsonperformance.com/articles/nutrition/radical2.htm

> >

> > Apparently, spices such as cloves have more ORAC per *gram* than

100

> > grams of Wolfberries. It seems to me that a well-spiced curry

would

> > suffice to give you enough antioxidants. By the way, do

residents of

> > India who eat curry regularly have specially long lives? Isn't

that

> > the reason why you are interested in ORAC values?

> >

> > Tony

> >

>

>

>

> Hi everybody--

>

> It's my understanding that ORAC values are calculated in vitro, and

> don't indicate much about actual bioavailability or utilization in

the

> human body, which may be much lower than the ORAC value suggests. Is

> this correct?

>

> For example, from a recent Linus ing Institute reseacrh report:

>

> " Apples and other fruit are considered to be healthy, in part due to

> the antioxidant flavonoids they contain. However, these flavonoids

are

> poorly absorbed into the bloodstream. We found that the consumption

of

> apples by volunteers resulted in a large increase in the antioxidant

> capacity of their plasma, indicating that something other than

> flavonoids may be responsible. Our further investigations showed

that

> fructose, a fruit sugar, in apples stimulated the production of uric

> acid in the body, which provided the plasma antioxidant capacity. "

>

> http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/fw04/apples.html

>

> -Liz

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony & All -

New here and mostly have been reading Files & a few posts. The ORAC

values on the 'spices' are actually figured with the distilled

essential oil from the plant, not the spice itself - i.e. clove oil,

not the powdered spice or clove bud.

Genesa

> > > Hi everyone,

> > > I looked up some values and the orac scores (per 100 grams) are

> > highest for:

> > > wolfberries 25,000

> > > prunes 5,700

> > > pomegranates 3000

> > > blueberries 2,300

> > > blackberries 2,036

> > > strawberries 1,220

> > >

> > > Also high are Kale 1770

> > > spinich 1270

> > >

> > >

> > > And berries are relatively low in fructose, so it's double good!

> > > best wishes to all!

> > > MM

[Guest guest]

Hi Genesa:

Thank you. Following on from that ........... according to

Nutritiondata.com, 100 grams of ground clove contains 20 grams of

fat. So can we assume that 20% by weight of cloves is clove oil?

And can we therefore further assume that the ORAC score of whole or

ground cloves, per gram, is one fifth of the value per gram given for

clove oil?

Since the clove in its whole state has not been distilled (heated)

perhaps the value is higher than one-fifth? Or is this type

of 'analysis' out to lunch? TIA.

Rodney.

> > > > Hi everyone,

> > > > I looked up some values and the orac scores (per 100 grams)

are

> > > highest for:

> > > > wolfberries 25,000

> > > > prunes 5,700

> > > > pomegranates 3000

> > > > blueberries 2,300

> > > > blackberries 2,036

> > > > strawberries 1,220

> > > >

> > > > Also high are Kale 1770

> > > > spinich 1270

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > And berries are relatively low in fructose, so it's double

good!

> > > > best wishes to all!

> > > > MM