Re: BP (was: : Salt consumption)

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There is also a third metric "pulse pressure" which is the difference between the two. 120/80 is considered

normal, with a 40 pulse pressure. I have no idea how healthy normal is. I suspect normal for

energy restricted individuals may be lower. All three numbers apparently represent different concerns.

My personal experience after losing much weight is that my BP fell considerably and my pulse rose slightly

perhaps related? I just measured 103/73 p58 . This is not a low measurement for me but I don't monitor

this closely since it dropped so far below supposedly normal targets.

JR

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of Francesca SkeltonSent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:06 AM Subject: [ ] BP (was: : Salt consumption)Isn't your diastolic BP number on the high side? The cutoff point is around 90. My BP is not terribly low either but my diastolic number is very low. (Mine runs anywhere from 125/70 to 110/62 depending on time of day - seems to be much lower at night). OTOH systolic pressure is more important as one gets older.Although my BP is not as low as many Cronies, I'm satisfied that I don't need meds. Out of an original family of 5 I'm the only one who didn't get very high BP (so far). on 7/25/2005 11:11 PM, citpeks at citpeks@... wrote:

I can eat a low salt diet when I work in air-conditioned comfort, butI need salt when I sweat. It has been like this since I was young,and it will probably will be like this until I die. I don't thinkthat anybody can be trained not to sweat. By the way, my BP is around116/83 with a pulse of 59 when I get up in the morning.Tony

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Hi All,

From the WUSTL study, the sytolic-diastolic = pulse blood pressures were for me,

83-59 = 34; 18 CRers 99-61 = 38; and 18 controls 129-79 = 50.

--- <crjohnr@...> wrote:

> BP (was: : Salt consumption)There is also a third metric " pulse pressure "

> which is the difference between the two. 120/80 is considered

> normal, with a 40 pulse pressure. I have no idea how healthy normal is. I

> suspect normal for

> energy restricted individuals may be lower. All three numbers apparently

> represent different concerns.

>

> My personal experience after losing much weight is that my BP fell

> considerably and my pulse rose slightly

> perhaps related? I just measured 103/73 p58 . This is not a low measurement

> for me but I don't monitor

> this closely since it dropped so far below supposedly normal targets.

>

> JR

> -----Original Message-----

Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@...

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Hi folks:

One wonders whether (perhaps in a way similar to the question of

whether lowish HDL matters if all the other lipid numbers are

excellent - some people think it doesn't matter) if both SBP and DBP

are low but pulse pressure is, say, 50, does it matter?

I don't know the answer. Any thoughts?

Another question is how one gets a good fix on SBP. My DBP doesn't

vary much from one measurement to the next. But my SBP ranges

between 102 and 120. Obviously the higher number yields a much

higher pulse pressure than the lower one.

Rodney.

>

> > BP (was: : Salt consumption)There is also a third metric " pulse

pressure "

> > which is the difference between the two. 120/80 is considered

> > normal, with a 40 pulse pressure. I have no idea how healthy

normal is. I

> > suspect normal for

> > energy restricted individuals may be lower. All three numbers

apparently

> > represent different concerns.

> >

> > My personal experience after losing much weight is that my BP fell

> > considerably and my pulse rose slightly

> > perhaps related? I just measured 103/73 p58 . This is not a low

measurement

> > for me but I don't monitor

> > this closely since it dropped so far below supposedly normal

targets.

> >

> > JR

> > -----Original Message-----

>

>

> Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@y...

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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There seems to be a sense that wrt to lipids, ratios are as

important as absolute amounts. There is also some discussion

that too little cholesterol can be bad too.

Regarding pulse pressure I am inclined to suspect that even

a high PP in the context of otherwise low BP numbers should not

be as dangerous. It does suggest to me that the individual's

lifestyle and diet has not lowered SBP and DBP in like amounts.

As Al reported the WUSTL PP was close to the popular standard

40 (120-80) offered as a healthy normal.

Perhaps low PP (like me and Al ) or higher (like Fran) in the

context of generally low BP overall is only indicating asymmetry

in how our individual BP has lowered rather than an actual risk

factor. I for one an not inclined to raise my BP to normalize my

PP.

The population with low BP is probably neither large nor widely

identified and studied. I know for sure that I don't know either.

JR

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[mailto: ]On Behalf Of Rodney

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:49 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: BP (was: : Salt consumption)

Hi folks:

One wonders whether (perhaps in a way similar to the question of

whether lowish HDL matters if all the other lipid numbers are

excellent - some people think it doesn't matter) if both SBP and DBP

are low but pulse pressure is, say, 50, does it matter?

I don't know the answer. Any thoughts?

Another question is how one gets a good fix on SBP. My DBP doesn't

vary much from one measurement to the next. But my SBP ranges

between 102 and 120. Obviously the higher number yields a much

higher pulse pressure than the lower one.

Rodney.

>

> > BP (was: : Salt consumption)There is also a third metric " pulse

pressure "

> > which is the difference between the two. 120/80 is considered

> > normal, with a 40 pulse pressure. I have no idea how healthy

normal is. I

> > suspect normal for

> > energy restricted individuals may be lower. All three numbers

apparently

> > represent different concerns.

> >

> > My personal experience after losing much weight is that my BP fell

> > considerably and my pulse rose slightly

> > perhaps related? I just measured 103/73 p58 . This is not a low

measurement

> > for me but I don't monitor

> > this closely since it dropped so far below supposedly normal

targets.

> >

> > JR

> > -----Original Message-----

>

>

> Al Pater, PhD; email: old542000@y...

>

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