Guest guest Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 A few comments on my prior post are required. Correlations between the characteristics of patients and better outcomes are certainly a VALID basis for what to study further, particularly when there are plausible explanations for the association, such as normal genetic characteristics specific to interactions between the agent and the tumor. Point taken . and this is also a valid way towards achieving personalize medicine - getting the right drug to the right patient. However, I think it's inappropriate for a company, in this case BIOVEST, to advance this type of analysis as evidence of efficacy without testing it prospectively . to write: " Biovest conducted this subset isotype analysis and discovered a **fundamental relationship** between vaccine isotype and the efficacy of BiovaxID " . I asked for confirmation about my concern from an expert advisor, who responded: " If they [biovest] ever re-run such a trial, complete accrual, and prospectively confirm this finding, then it is one thing. Otherwise, is just a retrospective analysis of a largely incomplete set of patients. .. For years investigators told us that V/V 138 FcRIII predicted response to vaccine (twice in JCO). Then, when they tried to verify it prospectively in the Genitope trial and... oops, untrue. " In the report on subset analysis the word " LUDICROUS, " hurt some feelings, understandably . .. But, it was the correlation to date of birth that the author's described as ludicrous (an obvious non-plausible explanation for a better outcome), NOT that it's ludicrous to find subset analysis persuasive! ..Indeed, the second article makes the point that even physicians (very smart people) are sometimes influenced by such analysis: Sleight writes: " Plausible explanations can usually be found for effects that are, in reality, simply due to the play of chance. When clinicians believe such subgroup analyses, there is a real danger of harm to the individual patient. " <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC59592/> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC59592/ A core part of PAL's mission is to learn how to read reports critically, which includes looking at the limitations of the methods used to reach the author's or sponsoring company's conclusions. In this case, a correlation with date of birth helps to prove the point about subtype analysis . but it does not speak to the plausibility of vaccines, which is obviously high because vaccines have been tested in large scale studies three times. Finally, without standards for evidence the practice of medicine would be based on theory and sales pitch. In such a world we'd have thousands of choices, but no basis for making a helpful one, and no foundation on which to make real scientific progress. Karl PAL www.lymphomation.org Evidence based information, independent of health industry funding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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