RE: Re: authorship-Guide vs student

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My views are expressed in red font belowDr R P NerurkarProfessor of Pharmacology TN Medical College & Nair HospitalMumbaiFrom: anita kotwani <anitakotwani@...>Subject: RE: Re: authorship-"Netrum" <netrum >Date: Tuesday, 5 April, 2011, 5:39 PM

Hi,i have few points for which views from the group will be appreciated1. A postgraduate, M.D., student who had done his thesis but the concept, design, to a large extent analysis and interpretation, and writing of the paper is done by the guide, who should be the first author?In my opinion MD student should be encouraged to write and prepare a manuscript within 15 days of his dissertation/thesis submission to the university. It shoulde be sent for publicaiton immediately after his passing the exam. Student should be the first author.If the student is not interested in publishing the thesis after his passing the exam. Guide

should give one year deadline to publish and if student still does not make an effort to publishe then Guide can publish it as a first author. 2. Resident who has helped in data analysis and writing in the paper after the work was done, whether co-authorship should be given to this new resident or just the acknowledgment?No authorship for data analysis and writing. Acknowledgement only3. Suppose, the data is collected from casualty/ICU/emergency, should the M.S. or in-charge be the co-author or they should be acknowledged?In my opinion yes because you cannot do the project without his or her collaboration.Thanks.Best,Anita Kotwaninetrum From: drvijaythawani@...Date:

Tue, 5 Apr 2011 02:32:50 +0000Subject: Re: authorship-

Hi,

After experiencing yesterday's tremor shocks in Himalayas which measured >5.6, I am back. For people living here that was not extra ordinary.

On authorship:

- The Chief investigator / principal investigator should be first author.

- The first authorship should not be compromised to please the guide or head of department.

- All those who contribute significantly on the scientific merit should get co-authorship.

- It is always good to decide the authorship order at the protocol writing stage to save heart burn later.

- Do not gift authorship to friends, colleugues or for getting authorship reciprocally.

- Do not give coauthorship to head of department, if there is no contribution from the boss.

Dr Vijay Thawani

>

> hello,

> I am aware that the antennas are up the moment this segment is mentioned.

> lets begin with the beginning.

> The academic excellence of an individual is decided primarily on the basis of

> number of articles, books published by him. If it is an individual effort , all

> is well and good. But In many instances when the research is a collaborative

> effort, the issue of authorship arises.

> Any research project involves several steps like the basic idea or design,

> actually performing the experiment, collecting the data, reasoning out(

> analyzing) and finally coming to the conclusion. Any contribution in the above

> steps is considered as fit for authorship. Composing the text and describing the

> results or even writing the entire article does not in any way contribute to the

> scientific content of the research and as such does not merit authorship.

>

> It is not only controversial as to who should be listed as author but the order

> of listing is also a bone of contention.

> We will look at an interesting download on this issue later.

> kunda

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