Re: Iodoral Causing Fever?

[Guest guest]

Steph, That's really interesting about your son!

I took 2 tablets today and will see if that helps.

When you say iodine may increase antibodies - do you mean the Hashi's

antibodies, or antis in general?

I know my thyroid levels were low. After starting HC and optimizing

B12, vit D and iron etc, I still couldn't tolerate Armour w/o going

hyper. The LDN halted the antibody attacks enough that I no longer had

hypo symptoms - temps were stable too etc. But still have falling

hair and fybro breast pain each month which is what made me want to

give iodine a try.

My sex hormones also tested quite low and I'm hoping the iodine will

help. However I do have Hashi's and I don't want to cause my thyroid

further damage.

Do you think the iodine will start up a Hashi's flare?

Are there many ppl here with Hashi's who've had good results w/ iodine

supplementation?

Thanks so much,

DD

>

> You are not on a high dose of iodine. You may want to try a higher

dose to

> see if it helps. What happens sometimes on lower doses is that the

iodine

> does enough to get the body started but not enough to complete the

cycle.

> Iodine supplied in larger amounts will create something called

Iodolipids

> that are used to stop the oxidative burning process which causes the

> increase in antibodies. So sometimes being on too low a dose will

increase

> antibodies. For some they cannot tolerate it. You just have to try

and see

> if it helps.

>

> Your thyroid saliva numbers look low. You may need that hormone.

>

> The fever may be a reaction to the toxins dumping. We had a weird

thing

> happen with my son when he was 7 and just on Iodoral. He would

vomit every

> Monday morning at 6:30 am. We wondered if it was related to school or

> something but when we hit summer it continued. I stopped the

iodoral and it

> stopped. I added it back and took a break from the iodine on a

different

> day and he started vomiting on a new day so I new it was detox. We

added

> selenium and more Vit C to his protocol and he stopped.

>

>

>

> Re: Iodoral Causing Fever?

>

>

> >

> >

> >

> > << How much iodine are you taking.>> 1 tablet Iodoral daily for 4

> > days so far.

> >

> > <<What do your thyroid levels look like? >>>

> >

> > Haven't tested recently but they were:

> > Blood Labs:

> >

> > TSH = 9

> > Reverse T3 = 282 (90-350)

> >

> > TPO = 518 H IU/ml (0-43)

> > Antithyroglobulin Ab = 44 H IU/ml (0 - 40)

> >

> > Thyroid Saliva Panel

> >

> > Thyroid stimulating hormone = 83 Normal (Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml)

> > ft4 = 0.18 (Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl)

> > ft3 = 0.43 (Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml)

> >

> >

> >

> > <<Have you had your ferritin/iron and B12 levels checked. They are

> > one of the reasons (if low) that people have issues tolerating

Armour.>>

> > Yes, they were all low and I've been supplementing for 6 mos -

> > haven't retested yet. Since starting LDN hypo symptoms cleared up.

> > I'm considering trying Armour again. Should I stop Iodoral first

if I do?

> > And what do you make of this fever???

> > Thanks so much,

> > DD

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Steph, Thanks a million for the link to the book excerpt! I'm still

waiting for the book to arrive - can't wait to read the whole thing.

I appreciate that.

Did your husband start out on 50 mgs straight away or did he titrate

up? I'm so used to dosing by symptoms and going slowly that it feels

counterintuitive to jump right up to 50 mgs. I'm a chicken!

> >>

> >> You are not on a high dose of iodine. You may want to try a higher

> > dose to

> >> see if it helps. What happens sometimes on lower doses is that the

> > iodine

> >> does enough to get the body started but not enough to complete the

> > cycle.

> >> Iodine supplied in larger amounts will create something called

> > Iodolipids

> >> that are used to stop the oxidative burning process which causes the

> >> increase in antibodies. So sometimes being on too low a dose will

> > increase

> >> antibodies. For some they cannot tolerate it. You just have to try

> > and see

> >> if it helps.

> >>

> >> Your thyroid saliva numbers look low. You may need that hormone.

> >>

> >> The fever may be a reaction to the toxins dumping. We had a weird

> > thing

> >> happen with my son when he was 7 and just on Iodoral. He would

> > vomit every

> >> Monday morning at 6:30 am. We wondered if it was related to

school or

> >> something but when we hit summer it continued. I stopped the

> > iodoral and it

> >> stopped. I added it back and took a break from the iodine on a

> > different

> >> day and he started vomiting on a new day so I new it was detox. We

> > added

> >> selenium and more Vit C to his protocol and he stopped.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Re: Iodoral Causing Fever?

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > << How much iodine are you taking.>> 1 tablet Iodoral daily for 4

> >> > days so far.

> >> >

> >> > <<What do your thyroid levels look like? >>>

> >> >

> >> > Haven't tested recently but they were:

> >> > Blood Labs:

> >> >

> >> > TSH = 9

> >> > Reverse T3 = 282 (90-350)

> >> >

> >> > TPO = 518 H IU/ml (0-43)

> >> > Antithyroglobulin Ab = 44 H IU/ml (0 - 40)

> >> >

> >> > Thyroid Saliva Panel

> >> >

> >> > Thyroid stimulating hormone = 83 Normal (Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml)

> >> > ft4 = 0.18 (Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl)

> >> > ft3 = 0.43 (Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml)

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > <<Have you had your ferritin/iron and B12 levels checked. They are

> >> > one of the reasons (if low) that people have issues tolerating

> > Armour.>>

> >> > Yes, they were all low and I've been supplementing for 6 mos -

> >> > haven't retested yet. Since starting LDN hypo symptoms cleared up.

> >> > I'm considering trying Armour again. Should I stop Iodoral first

> > if I do?

> >> > And what do you make of this fever???

> >> > Thanks so much,

> >> > DD

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Steph. Does your husband take any thyroid hormone?

I noticed in the excerpt from Dr. B in the How to Treat Autoimmune

Thyroid Disorders section he doesn't mention thyroid hormones - just

iodine, B vits, magnesium, antioxidants etc.

> >> >>

> >> >> You are not on a high dose of iodine. You may want to try a

higher

> >> > dose to

> >> >> see if it helps. What happens sometimes on lower doses is

that the

> >> > iodine

> >> >> does enough to get the body started but not enough to complete the

> >> > cycle.

> >> >> Iodine supplied in larger amounts will create something called

> >> > Iodolipids

> >> >> that are used to stop the oxidative burning process which

causes the

> >> >> increase in antibodies. So sometimes being on too low a dose will

> >> > increase

> >> >> antibodies. For some they cannot tolerate it. You just have

to try

> >> > and see

> >> >> if it helps.

> >> >>

> >> >> Your thyroid saliva numbers look low. You may need that hormone.

> >> >>

> >> >> The fever may be a reaction to the toxins dumping. We had a weird

> >> > thing

> >> >> happen with my son when he was 7 and just on Iodoral. He would

> >> > vomit every

> >> >> Monday morning at 6:30 am. We wondered if it was related to

> > school or

> >> >> something but when we hit summer it continued. I stopped the

> >> > iodoral and it

> >> >> stopped. I added it back and took a break from the iodine on a

> >> > different

> >> >> day and he started vomiting on a new day so I new it was

detox. We

> >> > added

> >> >> selenium and more Vit C to his protocol and he stopped.

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> Re: Iodoral Causing Fever?

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > << How much iodine are you taking.>> 1 tablet Iodoral daily

for 4

> >> >> > days so far.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > <<What do your thyroid levels look like? >>>

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Haven't tested recently but they were:

> >> >> > Blood Labs:

> >> >> >

> >> >> > TSH = 9

> >> >> > Reverse T3 = 282 (90-350)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > TPO = 518 H IU/ml (0-43)

> >> >> > Antithyroglobulin Ab = 44 H IU/ml (0 - 40)

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thyroid Saliva Panel

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thyroid stimulating hormone = 83 Normal (Normal: 26-85 nIU/ml)

> >> >> > ft4 = 0.18 (Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl)

> >> >> > ft3 = 0.43 (Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml)

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > <<Have you had your ferritin/iron and B12 levels checked.

They are

> >> >> > one of the reasons (if low) that people have issues tolerating

> >> > Armour.>>

> >> >> > Yes, they were all low and I've been supplementing for 6 mos -

> >> >> > haven't retested yet. Since starting LDN hypo symptoms

cleared up.

> >> >> > I'm considering trying Armour again. Should I stop Iodoral

first

> >> > if I do?

> >> >> > And what do you make of this fever???

> >> >> > Thanks so much,

> >> >> > DD

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

[Guest guest]

Thank you for the info. It seems I have many similarities w/ your

husband.

So, he must do okay with the amalgams and all the methylation stuff, eh?

OH! I'm so excited! I doubled my Iodoral dose yesterday (cringing all

the while!) and guess what? No fever this morning!!!!

Yay.

Thanks so much for the advice to increase. You were spot on.

DD

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> You are not on a high dose of iodine. You may want to try a

> > higher

> >> >> > dose to

> >> >> >> see if it helps. What happens sometimes on lower doses is

> > that the

> >> >> > iodine

> >> >> >> does enough to get the body started but not enough to

complete the

> >> >> > cycle.

> >> >> >> Iodine supplied in larger amounts will create something called

> >> >> > Iodolipids

> >> >> >> that are used to stop the oxidative burning process which

> > causes the

> >> >> >> increase in antibodies. So sometimes being on too low a

dose will

> >> >> > increase

> >> >> >> antibodies. For some they cannot tolerate it. You just have

> > to try

> >> >> > and see

> >> >> >> if it helps.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Your thyroid saliva numbers look low. You may need that

hormone.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> The fever may be a reaction to the toxins dumping. We had

a weird

> >> >> > thing

> >> >> >> happen with my son when he was 7 and just on Iodoral. He would

> >> >> > vomit every

> >> >> >> Monday morning at 6:30 am. We wondered if it was related to

> >> > school or

> >> >> >> something but when we hit summer it continued. I stopped the

> >> >> > iodoral and it

> >> >> >> stopped. I added it back and took a break from the iodine on a

> >> >> > different

> >> >> >> day and he started vomiting on a new day so I new it was

> > detox. We

> >> >> > added

> >> >> >> selenium and more Vit C to his protocol and he stopped.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Re: Iodoral Causing Fever?

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > << How much iodine are you taking.>> 1 tablet Iodoral daily

> > for 4

> >> >> >> > days so far.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > <<What do your thyroid levels look like? >>>

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Haven't tested recently but they were:

> >> >> >> > Blood Labs:

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > TSH = 9

> >> >> >> > Reverse T3 = 282 (90-350)

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > TPO = 518 H IU/ml (0-43)

> >> >> >> > Antithyroglobulin Ab = 44 H IU/ml (0 - 40)

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thyroid Saliva Panel

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thyroid stimulating hormone = 83 Normal (Normal: 26-85

nIU/ml)

> >> >> >> > ft4 = 0.18 (Normal: 0.17-0.42 ng/dl)

> >> >> >> > ft3 = 0.43 (Normal: 0.28-1.10 pg/ml)

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > <<Have you had your ferritin/iron and B12 levels checked.

> > They are

> >> >> >> > one of the reasons (if low) that people have issues

tolerating

> >> >> > Armour.>>

> >> >> >> > Yes, they were all low and I've been supplementing for 6

mos -

> >> >> >> > haven't retested yet. Since starting LDN hypo symptoms

> > cleared up.

> >> >> >> > I'm considering trying Armour again. Should I stop Iodoral

> > first

> >> >> > if I do?

> >> >> >> > And what do you make of this fever???

> >> >> >> > Thanks so much,

> >> >> >> > DD

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> >