Iodine and anxiety issues....

[Guest guest]

Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing

the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?

I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to

normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past eperiences

that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax were

no longer needed...thanks

[Guest guest]

I have been able to get off Lexapro, an antidepressant, since optimizing my iodine and Armour. My only left over symptom is impatience...which I think is a built in problem because I might be a bit of a bitch...no additional anxiety other than the regular stuff. Don't know if this helps or not -- but getting my thyroid squared away has definitely helped reduce my anxiety.

Take care,

BarbF

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>>Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing >>the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?

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[Guest guest]

Have you had a saliva test to check your adrenals? Very common to have

adrenal fatigue with thyroid issues. The iodine may be stressing out

your already fatigued adrenals. I was having anxiety and panic

especially at night until I began to support my adrenals. I did find

that I had to go slow with the iodine.

>

> Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing

> the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?

> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to

> normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past

eperiences

> that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax

were

> no longer needed...thanks

>

[Guest guest]

My adrenals are so shot I have NO adrenaline left....thats probably why I get NO adrenaline response when my BS crashes to as low as 23.......Its a wonderful experience...lol

From: julie_2girls <julie_2girls@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:06 PM

Have you had a saliva test to check your adrenals? Very common to have adrenal fatigue with thyroid issues. The iodine may be stressing out your already fatigued adrenals. I was having anxiety and panic especially at night until I began to support my adrenals. I did find that I had to go slow with the iodine.>> Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing > the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to > normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past eperiences > that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax were > no longer

needed...thanks>

[Guest guest]

Several years ago yes....low normal cortisol....next to NO DHEA....and SIgA defficient.

Couldnt follow up though because of a thing called $$$$$....thats the hard part.

Pantothenic acid and magnesium help restore adrenal function , along with a bit of Niacin and some good omega6 and 3's......

Things to avoid with adrenal fatigue is any vitamins that help use up and burn glucose , fats and protien.....they just stress the adrenals even more till they poop out.

From: julie_2girls <julie_2girls@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 10:06 PM

Have you had a saliva test to check your adrenals? Very common to have adrenal fatigue with thyroid issues. The iodine may be stressing out your already fatigued adrenals. I was having anxiety and panic especially at night until I began to support my adrenals. I did find that I had to go slow with the iodine.>> Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing > the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to > normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past eperiences > that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax were > no longer

needed...thanks>

[Guest guest]

I had to go slow with the iodine and am using the Magnascent.com

iodine as it is very assimiable. I was coming off thryoid meds (low

dose), so found I couldn't take both (anxiety) so choose to drop the

meds. Can't take the iodine late in the day or will keep you awake at

night. (very important to sleep well). And, Dr. Schwarzbein says

sleeping and resting (a lot) is the best thing you can do to repair

the adrenals. Fruit usually taxes the adrenals, low glycemic,

balanced meals good. Book: The Schwarzbein Principle(endocrinologist)

available from the library.

> >

> > Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and

doing

> > the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?

> > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close

to

> > normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past

> eperiences

> > that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as

xanax

> were

> > no longer needed...thanks

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

Would you mention a few of the vitamins

that help use up and burn glucose, fats and protein? Thanks.

Joni

[Guest guest]

Thats a rather vague question , and I could go on and on. Be more specific about what you are wanting to accomplish...Diabetes ? High blood pressure ? Obesity ?

Let me know , then I will be more specific....ok

Remember.....vitamins dont act on their own...they are co-factors with the bodys enzymes that also require mineral co-factors , fats , and protien.

From: Jeff & Joni <jeffnjoni@...>Subject: RE: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 3:14 AM

Hi Ron,

Would you mention a few of the vitamins that help use up and burn glucose, fats and protein? Thanks.

Joni

[Guest guest]

If you continue to have anxiety after trying the iodine you could look into amino acid therapy. www.neuroassist.com has lots of info about it. Several members of my family, including myself take amino acids according to the protocol on the website. It's not a cure-all, but it does help with different health issues. Deb

>> Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing > the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to > normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past eperiences > that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax were > no longer needed...thanks>

[Guest guest]

anxiety really responds to enough iodine, Armour and cortef for adrenals. really! I am sure ATP cofactors help too.

Gracia

If you continue to have anxiety after trying the iodine you could look into amino acid therapy. www.neuroassist.com has lots of info about it. Several members of my family, including myself take amino acids according to the protocol on the website. It's not a cure-all, but it does help with different health issues. Deb

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[Guest guest]

I had "quite bad" anxiety all my life b4 and after I had a partial thyroidectomy and no meds for 30 years until I borrowed some Armour from a friend. this symptom is completely gone with enough Iodoral (100mg), 4 grains Armour and cortef 5mg 4X a day. I also take high Bs and ATP cofactors, zinc and copper.

Gracia

Im just curious as to how many of you with thyroid issues , and doing the iodine therapy are also experiencing quite bad anxiety ?I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to normal , and was wondering if anyone else does too ? Or past eperiences that resolved with the iodine therapy so benzo drugs such as xanax were no longer needed...thanks

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

Well, you mentioned that things to avoid

with adrenal fatigue is any vitamins that help use up and burn glucose, fats

and protein, that they just stress the adrenals even more till they poop out.

I have exhausted adrenal glands and I take several different vitamins. I am

wondering which vitamins you are talking about that would stress the adrenals

as you said.

Joni

[Guest guest]

Avoid high doseThiamin , high dose B6 , and high dose Riboflavin. Use high dose pantothenic acid and some medium doses of niacin along with plenty of magnesium and good quantities of sunflower and safflower oil.

Avoid chromium ...its a tough call , but you dont want to stress the adrenals anymore , since that just keeps them pooped out. You want to be able to produce glucose for energy without having the eadrenals to be overstimulated. Generaly avoiding high potassium foods , and supplementing with plenty of sodium helps also. You might be mor tired at first , but gradually you will have more energy.

Also using digestive enzymes and pro-biotics can help too to relieve exhausted adrenals.

Give it time.....

From: Jeff & Joni <jeffnjoni@...>Subject: RE: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 5:29 PM

Hi Ron,

Well, you mentioned that things to avoid with adrenal fatigue is any vitamins that help use up and burn glucose, fats and protein, that they just stress the adrenals even more till they poop out. I have exhausted adrenal glands and I take several different vitamins. I am wondering which vitamins you are talking about that would stress the adrenals as you said.

Joni

[Guest guest]

Yes , I understand that. I have studied nutrition for the last 7 years in the hopes of alleviating my own symptoms. However the only ones to benefit much is quite a few of my friends that have taken some of my recommendations , and they WORKED !

Please try and understand tha the Iodine protocols are something very new to me as I seemed to look at all the minerals except iodine.....its a very long learning process.

I hate allopathic medicine with a vengeance , but cant afford the other route of a naturopathic physician.

Hopefully the tranquilizers are just going to be a temporary crutch.

I also have a very hard time with comprehension of new ideas , and may have to go over it several times. Please be patient with me. I never even heard of Bromine/Bromide until about 3 weeks ago , much less the other halogens that are antagonized by iodine.

when the mind isnt working well , its sometimes gets very hard......please be patient with me. I pray everyday that God use me for his will in helping someone else with nutritional issues.....Thats part of the reason I am here......Thanks

From: <mudpuppyman@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM

> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to> normal ,

We need to understand the difference between allopathic and wholistic medicine. If you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer, then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be making it worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a result of taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could be physical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. In any case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourself and mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. And allopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classify most alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including amino acids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab produced stuff to their diet, they are placing

themselves on an allopathic roller coaster that will never end. Yes lugols and iodoral are lab produced, so I would make a very rare exception to the rule for them to compensate for the extraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. But these are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamental building blocks, so don't put them in the same category with other alternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under the cloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innate intelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustments per day based on that intelligence. The less fiddling with that mechanism the better, imo.

I would like to recommend that people seek to understand the powerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet may be the fundamental cause of your problems. I would like to recommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholistic diet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught up into thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study in order to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet . The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands of years ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancient principles of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we take today was created 150 years ago.

[Guest guest]

, I respect and applaud your knowledge and expertise. But I respectfully ask you revisit your statement below. Sometimes people are too sick to exercise their will. And I would postulate that anyone participating in any way on this site is doing their own best to seek the cause and implement the curative needs in the best way they can at this time in their lives.

Betsy

"In any case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourself and mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause"

From: <mudpuppyman@ gmail.com>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM

> I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to> normal ,

We need to understand the difference between allopathic and wholistic medicine. If you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer, then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be making it worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a result of taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could be physical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. In any case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourself and mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. And allopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classify most alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including amino acids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab produced stuff to their diet, they are placing

themselves on an allopathic roller coaster that will never end. Yes lugols and iodoral are lab produced, so I would make a very rare exception to the rule for them to compensate for the extraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. But these are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamental building blocks, so don't put them in the same category with other alternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under the cloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innate intelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustments per day based on that intelligence. The less fiddling with that mechanism the better, imo.

I would like to recommend that people seek to understand the powerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet may be the fundamental cause of your problems. I would like to recommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholistic diet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught up into thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study in order to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet . The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands of years ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancient principles of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we take today was created 150 years ago.

[Guest guest]

Hi Ron,

We are all in different places on this journey. For example, I had

tried going off of my sleeping pill, tried for a month, taking

melatonin instead. I just wasn't falling asleep or sleeping well and

the fatigue was catching up with me. I decided that for now, I am just

not ready to battle that problem, so I am using the ambien again. But

I know that as I detox, I have had lots of symptoms, sometimes that is

what is keeping me awake.

You are having brain fog and anxiety, which will probably clear up as

you continue on the iodine protocol. Like me you just aren't at a

place where you can eliminate a particular medicine. But like me, you

hope to get to that place someday. Be good to yourself and celebrate

the knowledge that you have gained and the victories that you have had.

Hang in there-

Blessings-

Vicki

>

> From: <mudpuppyman@...>

> Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....

> iodine

> Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to

> > normal ,

>  

> We need to understand the difference between allopathic and

wholistic medicine.   If you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer,

then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be making

it worse in the long run.      If someone develops anxiety as a result

of taking iodine, there could be many reasons.     IT could be

physical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine.   In

any case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourself

and mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause.       And

allopathic medicine will never find the cause.       I would classify

most alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including amino

acids, etc.    Once someone gets started with adding more lab produced

stuff to their diet, they are placing themselves on an allopathic

roller coaster that will never end.       Yes lugols and iodoral are

lab produced, so I would make a very rare

> exception to the rule for them to compensate for the

extraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live.     But

these are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamental

building blocks, so don't put them in the same category with other

alternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under the

cloak of 'natural' .      The body works by its own innate

intelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustments

per day based on that intelligence.       The less fiddling with that

mechanism the better, imo.

> I would like to recommend that people seek to understand the

powerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet may

be the fundamental cause of your problems.      I would like to

recommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholistic

diet.    But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught up

into thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study in

order to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet .    

The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands of

years ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancient

principles of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we take

today was created 150 years ago.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks...I dont know enough about all this yet. I do know that for different reasons I was loading up on regular old iodized salt when some very biszzar syptoms started that were quite severe.

It was only by chance that I put a tiny anmmount of iodine on my hand that set me off........

I cant find any of the tincture of iodine at the local stores to do a test ?

I already know from past experiences that trying to do anykind of detox that involves the liver pathways sends me to hell and back.....

I need to get the detox pathways open and all the phase 1 and 2 liver systems working good to pursue this .......I still have hope , just very confusing now after being in ER 3 times with severe problems .....yet I will try it again , just going to make sure my Dr from Pakistan is aware of what is going on FIRST.

From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:42 AM

Hi Ron,We are all in different places on this journey. For example, I hadtried going off of my sleeping pill, tried for a month, takingmelatonin instead. I just wasn't falling asleep or sleeping well andthe fatigue was catching up with me. I decided that for now, I am justnot ready to battle that problem, so I am using the ambien again. ButI know that as I detox, I have had lots of symptoms, sometimes that iswhat is keeping me awake. You are having brain fog and anxiety, which will probably clear up asyou continue on the iodine protocol. Like me you just aren't at aplace where you can eliminate a particular medicine. But like me, youhope to get to that place someday. Be good to yourself and celebratethe knowledge that you have gained and the victories that you have had. Hang in there-Blessings-Vicki> > From: <mudpuppyman@ ...>> Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM> > > > > > > > > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to> > normal ,> > We need to understand the difference between allopathic andwholistic medicine. If

you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer,then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be makingit worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a resultof taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could bephysical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. Inany case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourselfand mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. Andallopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classifymost alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including aminoacids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab producedstuff to their diet, they are placing themselves on an allopathicroller coaster that will never

end. Yes lugols and iodoral arelab produced, so I would make a very rare> exception to the rule for them to compensate for theextraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. Butthese are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamentalbuilding blocks, so don't put them in the same category with otheralternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under thecloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innateintelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustmentsper day based on that intelligence. The less fiddling with thatmechanism the better, imo.> I would like to recommend that people seek to understand thepowerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet maybe the fundamental cause of your

problems. I would like torecommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholisticdiet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught upinto thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study inorder to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet . The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands ofyears ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancientprinciples of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we taketoday was created 150 years ago.>

[Guest guest]

Thanks...I dont know enough about all this yet. I do know that for different reasons I was loading up on regular old iodized salt when some very biszzar syptoms started that were quite severe.

It was only by chance that I put a tiny anmmount of iodine on my hand that set me off........

I cant find any of the tincture of iodine at the local stores to do a test ?

I already know from past experiences that trying to do anykind of detox that involves the liver pathways sends me to hell and back.....

I need to get the detox pathways open and all the phase 1 and 2 liver systems working good to pursue this .......I still have hope , just very confusing now after being in ER 3 times with severe problems .....yet I will try it again , just going to make sure my Dr from Pakistan is aware of what is going on FIRST.

From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 12:42 AM

Hi Ron,We are all in different places on this journey. For example, I hadtried going off of my sleeping pill, tried for a month, takingmelatonin instead. I just wasn't falling asleep or sleeping well andthe fatigue was catching up with me. I decided that for now, I am justnot ready to battle that problem, so I am using the ambien again. ButI know that as I detox, I have had lots of symptoms, sometimes that iswhat is keeping me awake. You are having brain fog and anxiety, which will probably clear up asyou continue on the iodine protocol. Like me you just aren't at aplace where you can eliminate a particular medicine. But like me, youhope to get to that place someday. Be good to yourself and celebratethe knowledge that you have gained and the victories that you have had. Hang in there-Blessings-Vicki> > From: <mudpuppyman@ ...>> Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM> > > > > > > > > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to> > normal ,> > We need to understand the difference between allopathic andwholistic medicine. If

you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer,then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be makingit worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a resultof taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could bephysical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. Inany case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourselfand mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. Andallopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classifymost alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including aminoacids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab producedstuff to their diet, they are placing themselves on an allopathicroller coaster that will never

end. Yes lugols and iodoral arelab produced, so I would make a very rare> exception to the rule for them to compensate for theextraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. Butthese are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamentalbuilding blocks, so don't put them in the same category with otheralternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under thecloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innateintelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustmentsper day based on that intelligence. The less fiddling with thatmechanism the better, imo.> I would like to recommend that people seek to understand thepowerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet maybe the fundamental cause of your

problems. I would like torecommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholisticdiet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught upinto thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study inorder to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet . The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands ofyears ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancientprinciples of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we taketoday was created 150 years ago.>

[Guest guest]

it will be our pleasure to help you learn and get healthier! i've been where you are myself, still am today!, and it's so important to have a support group as we go through unlearning and relearning and implementing in our own lives, then sharing with others!

good to meet you, ron!

sincerely, sandi

[Guest guest]

Thanks....I appreciate that.

Im really struggling right now with mental and physical issues.

From: sandi blair <ptb_1952@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 1:28 AM

it will be our pleasure to help you learn and get healthier! i've been where you are myself, still am today!, and it's so important to have a support group as we go through unlearning and relearning and implementing in our own lives, then sharing with others!

good to meet you, ron!

sincerely, sandi

[Guest guest]

I still ride the rollercoaster of insomnia. I occasionally take a xanax to

get to sleep and stay asleep. I look at it as it being harder on my body to

heal without being able to sleep so I try not to take it but know my limits

and do when I need it.

Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....

> iodine

> Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to

> > normal ,

>

> We need to understand the difference between allopathic and

wholistic medicine. If you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer,

then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be making

it worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a result

of taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could be

physical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. In

any case, if you don't have the will to seek the cause for yourself

and mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. And

allopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classify

most alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including amino

acids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab produced

stuff to their diet, they are placing themselves on an allopathic

roller coaster that will never end. Yes lugols and iodoral are

lab produced, so I would make a very rare

> exception to the rule for them to compensate for the

extraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. But

these are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamental

building blocks, so don't put them in the same category with other

alternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under the

cloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innate

intelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustments

per day based on that intelligence. The less fiddling with that

mechanism the better, imo.

> I would like to recommend that people seek to understand the

powerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet may

be the fundamental cause of your problems. I would like to

recommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholistic

diet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught up

into thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study in

order to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet .

The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands of

years ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancient

principles of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we take

today was created 150 years ago.

>

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[Guest guest]

My posts are not meant as a judgment on anyone . I say it like I see it, and I stand behind what I say, but of course I respect everyone's right to do whatever feels right to them. Basically I am presenting a point of view that has been lost in modern times, even among the so called 'natural' crowd. You can take it or leave it as you wish.

In the same vein, I think comdyne should be banned from this forum, not because I don't like his opinion, but because I don't think he is expressing his opinion. His posts are spam. HIs motive is dishonest. I think he is actually attempting to disrupt the purpose of this forum. The wolf-chaikoff paper , exposed in detail by dr. abraham, was a deliberate scam by big pharma and the ptb to discredit iodine. That one paper has resulted in the virtual demonization of iodine for fifty years. If that paper had been exposed as a con job in the beginning, then it could never have gotten off the ground. But there were not enough people willing to take a stand for the truth so the lies backed by moneyed interests won out. In the same way, if posters like comdyne are not exposed for what they are, then they are legitimized by that silence.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for pointing this out. I agree whole heartedly. As a person who was very sick, I was forced into doing my own research and finding someone who would help me even when I could hardly continue. You have to gather every ounce of strength to get it done. For me, I was dying. If I gave up I honestly believe that the endo I was seeing would have finished me off with his barbaric External Beam Radiation.

I will try to keep up with comdyne's posts better. I am having some personal family issues at the moment along with struggling with a flair up of shingles (due to the family stress) and tanking adrenals. I am frustrated after having a long run of good health. But this too will pass and I will get some rest and recover. The down side is that I have lost track of the details of the groups posts.

Steph

Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....

My posts are not meant as a judgment on anyone . I say it like I see it, and I stand behind what I say, but of course I respect everyone's right to do whatever feels right to them. Basically I am presenting a point of view that has been lost in modern times, even among the so called 'natural' crowd. You can take it or leave it as you wish.

In the same vein, I think comdyne should be banned from this forum, not because I don't like his opinion, but because I don't think he is expressing his opinion. His posts are spam. HIs motive is dishonest. I think he is actually attempting to disrupt the purpose of this forum. The wolf-chaikoff paper , exposed in detail by dr. abraham, was a deliberate scam by big pharma and the ptb to discredit iodine. That one paper has resulted in the virtual demonization of iodine for fifty years. If that paper had been exposed as a con job in the beginning, then it could never have gotten off the ground. But there were not enough people willing to take a stand for the truth so the lies backed by moneyed interests won out. In the same way, if posters like comdyne are not exposed for what they are, then they are legitimized by that silence.

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So tell me , do you know What it might be called when a persons adrenal medulla's are very enlarged ? Is it normal ? or is it what is called a Pheochromocytoma ?

How would you have any idea as to what has a whole University medical center , and MD cancer center stumped ? Go ahead....say it like you see it ! Open your mouth and make a personal statement that one size fits all. Do you also realize that (iodine) may be the very reason the iodine sends me to the hospital in a severe hypertensive crisis that nearly kills me ? Im here to try and figure out what to do , so possibly I might avoid a surgery and have no adrenals , verses being dead !

We all get the point....?

From: <mudpuppyman@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:51 AM

My posts are not meant as a judgment on anyone . I say it like I see it, and I stand behind what I say, but of course I respect everyone's right to do whatever feels right to them. Basically I am presenting a point of view that has been lost in modern times, even among the so called 'natural' crowd. You can take it or leave it as you wish.

In the same vein, I think comdyne should be banned from this forum, not because I don't like his opinion, but because I don't think he is expressing his opinion. His posts are spam. HIs motive is dishonest. I think he is actually attempting to disrupt the purpose of this forum. The wolf-chaikoff paper , exposed in detail by dr. abraham, was a deliberate scam by big pharma and the ptb to discredit iodine. That one paper has resulted in the virtual demonization of iodine for fifty years. If that paper had been exposed as a con job in the beginning, then it could never have gotten off the ground. But there were not enough people willing to take a stand for the truth so the lies backed by moneyed interests won out.

In the same way, if posters like comdyne are not exposed for what they are, then they are legitimized by that silence.

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That is so true. I get to where i cant heal from little cuts and scrapes.....the Xanex does allow me to heal due the proper sleep and release of growth hormone. I used to take an amino called ornithine that seemed to help lessen the dose of xanex. I might have even used it with arginine ???

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....iodine Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 2:32 AM

I still ride the rollercoaster of insomnia. I occasionally take a xanax to get to sleep and stay asleep. I look at it as it being harder on my body to heal without being able to sleep so I try not to take it but know my limits and do when I need it. Re: Iodine and anxiety issues....> iodinegroups (DOT) com> Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 5:08 PM>>>>>>>> > I have to be on some type of tranquilizer to feel anything close to> > normal ,>> We need to understand the difference between allopathic andwholistic medicine. If you suppress symptoms with a tranquilizer,then you are not addressing the cause of the problem and may be makingit worse in the long run. If someone develops anxiety as a resultof taking iodine, there could be many reasons. IT could bephysical detox, emotional detox, or maybe taking too much iodine. Inany case, if you don't have the will to seek the

cause for yourselfand mostly by yourself, then you will never find the cause. Andallopathic medicine will never find the cause. I would classifymost alternative therapies as allopathic as well, including aminoacids, etc. Once someone gets started with adding more lab producedstuff to their diet, they are placing themselves on an allopathicroller coaster that will never end. Yes lugols and iodoral arelab produced, so I would make a very rare> exception to the rule for them to compensate for theextraordinarily polluted and corrupted times in which we live. Butthese are the most basic of nutrients called minerals, the fundamentalbuilding blocks, so don't put them in the same category with otheralternative therapies that are really nothing but drugs under thecloak of 'natural' . The body works by its own innateintelligence, making hundreds or thousands of automatic adjustmentsper day based on

that intelligence. The less fiddling with thatmechanism the better, imo.> I would like to recommend that people seek to understand thepowerful influence of diet in our lives and realize that your diet maybe the fundamental cause of your problems. I would like torecommend the study of macrobiotics as the most natural and wholisticdiet. But if you decide to study macrobiotics, don't get caught upinto thinking of it as a particular diet but think of it as a study inorder to recapture your own basic intuition in regards to diet .The priniciples of macrobiotics were put down on paper thousands ofyears ago by the wisest of men and women, based on the ancientprinciples of yin and yang , just like the iodine formulation we taketoday was created 150 years ago.>------------ --------- --------- ------