RE: Re: Oral consumption of antiseptic iodine.

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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Mrs. Barley <chosenbarley@...> wrote:

> Thank you for your info, . I do recall reading some advice to

> the effect that adding a wee bit of tincture of iodine would make

> polluted water safe to drink, though.

Yeah, if I had a choice between drinking a little tincture

or risking cholera, I'd go for the tincture any day!

Boiling is a better bet though, if you have fuel.

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On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 2:03 AM,

[Guest guest]

Lugol's can be used externally to sterilize water, to kill bacteria on our skin (on boils, cuts). Lugol's can also be used internally as, say, three drops in a glass of water to gargle, clean the jammed nose, drink.

Now, pardon my ignorance, can povidone iodine be used for all these above uses? How about the dose, again "three drops in a glass of water"?

Yes povidone iodine doesn't sting as much as Lugol's does. We have it in chemist shops here in India under the brand name Betadine.

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);

- www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Tue, 12/2/08,

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Ralph

Betadine is only for external use. It is loaded with stuff to protect shelf life.

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Duke Dallas - Texas

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iodine From: psych_58@...Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 06:38:43 -0800Subject: Re: Re: Oral consumption of antiseptic iodine.

Lugol's can be used externally to sterilize water, to kill bacteria on our skin (on boils, cuts). Lugol's can also be used internally as, say, three drops in a glass of water to gargle, clean the jammed nose, drink.

Now, pardon my ignorance, can povidone iodine be used for all these above uses? How about the dose, again "three drops in a glass of water"?

Yes povidone iodine doesn't sting as much as Lugol's does. We have it in chemist shops here in India under the brand name Betadine.

Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsychhotmail- Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health Education.- Author of "Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses";- M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology, Ph.D.;- Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ Med School, USA);

- www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com--- On Tue, 12/2/08,

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Laurel:

I do it every day - directly on a tumor and the tumor is breaking up.

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iodine From: pythonesk@...Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:53:54 +0000Subject: Re: Oral consumption of antiseptic iodine.

Can we not apply a 2% tincture to the skin and have it be absorbed by the body that way? I did the patch test on my inner arm and it disappeared within 6 hours or so, which means I'm deficient. So now I'm wondering why I can't just keep applying the iodine to my skin?Here's the patch test info:http://www.wellnesswithin.com/articles/Iodine%20Patch%20Test.pdfThanks,Laurel--- In iodine , "Mrs. Barley" <chosenbarley@...> wrote:>> --- In iodine , "

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Povidone might be able to be ingested, but the main reason

I like it is that it's a whole lot cheaper than Lugols', which is

water-based. I mean, if you are going to slather something on

your arms after fighting with a blackberry bush, cheap is good.

Povidone is a blood-plasma substitute, and as such, one

would think it is pretty non-toxic. Povidone iodine is considered

toxic in large doses, but that is because of the iodine:

http://www.safety.vanderbilt.edu/pdf/hcs_msds/betadine_pvp_solution_10_03.pdf

Subchronic Toxicity

Povidone iodine

In a 12-week dietary study in rats, ingestion of povidone iodine at an

average povidone iodine dosage of approximately 75 to 750 mg/kg/day

produced a dose-dependent increase in serum protein-bound iodine and

nonspecific, reversible microscopic changes in the thyroid. No other

gross or microscopic povidone iodine-induced changes were observed. At

equivalent iodine dosages, dietary potassium iodide produced similar

thyroid changes of equal or greater severity.

The main thing though, is that in the U.S., items meant for

" medical " uses are WAY overpriced. Actually anything meant

for human ingestion is way overpriced too. I can get

silicon hair gel that is meant for horse tails at a few dollars

for a big bottle, while " human " silicon gel is $15 for a tiny

bottle. I can get 20 lbs of flax seeds or 5 gallons of molasses

for a few dollars. But if I buy the same thing in the store, the

markup is huge.

So while I personally would NOT ingest povidone

iodine (excepting some major emergency), it is

great for cuts and scrapes and " painting " . I mean,

if Lugol's is $10 an ounce, and I can get a pint

of Betadine for the same price, I'll use the Betadine!

(actually the animal version isn't called Betadine, I

forget the name).

But it's not an either/or issue. The more tools

in one's toolkit, the better.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:38 AM, psych doc <psych_58@...> wrote:

> Lugol's can be used externally to sterilize water, to kill bacteria on our

> skin (on boils, cuts). Lugol's can also be used internally as, say, three

> drops in a glass of water to gargle, clean the jammed nose, drink.

> Now, pardon my ignorance, can povidone iodine be used for all these above

> uses? How about the dose, again " three drops in a glass of water " ?

> Yes povidone iodine doesn't sting as much as Lugol's does. We have it in

> chemist shops here in India under the brand name Betadine.

>

> Ratan Singh, Phone: 91 141 2652561, mail: ratanpsych@...

> - Certificate in Food & Nutrition; Diploma in Nutrition and Health

> Education.

> - Author of " Nutrition & Supplements in Major Mental Illnesses " ;

> - M.A. (Psychol), Postgraduate Diploma in Medical & Social Psychology,

> Ph.D.;

> - Certified Behavior Therapist (from late Prof. J. Wolpe's Unit, Temple Univ

> Med School, USA);

> - www.jaipurmart.com/trade/meditationandhealth, www.ejcbs.com

>

> --- On Tue, 12/2/08,

[Guest guest]

May I ask, Duke, is the tumor on

the thyroid, or elsewhere? Is this just valid for thyroid tumors or is it

helpful for all tumors? What made you decide to do this? (thought

process/research/knowledge process)

Thanks in advance for your

reply.

Esther N. MBE,

RHA, CBS, CNHP

Holistic Allergist, Pain Specialist

OPEN WINDOWS 2 WELLNESS

www.openw2w.com

519.754.8759

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Duke Stone

Sent: December 2, 2008 3:19 PM

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Subject: RE: Re: Oral consumption of antiseptic iodine.

Laurel:

I do it every day - directly on a tumor and the tumor is breaking up.

awareness-investigation-knowledge-potential-motivation-action-patience-results

Duke

Dallas - Texas info@...

iodine

From: pythonesk@...

Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:53:54 +0000

Subject: Re: Oral consumption of antiseptic iodine.

Can we not apply a 2% tincture to the skin and have

it be absorbed by

the body that way? I did the patch test on my inner arm and it

disappeared within 6 hours or so, which means I'm deficient. So now

I'm wondering why I can't just keep applying the iodine to my skin?

Here's the patch test info:

http://www.wellnesswithin.com/articles/Iodine%20Patch%20Test.pdf

Thanks,

Laurel

>

> --- In iodine ,

"