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did you do the spot test too? Prior to supplementing? I had decent

saturation BUT my spot test showed severe deficiency. I should have

absorbed much of the iodoral tablets BUT instead peed out 2/3's.

This indicates NIS defect. So I need to take more iodine to bombard

my body to get it in the cells. I wonder if you have NIS defect

too? I hope I didn't confuse you more...I am new at this. Steph can

probably explain this better OR help you with your results.

>

> I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it was

very

> good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really thought

> that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was the

> reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I know

> that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

risen a

> half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like something has

> " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead inside

and

> really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose that

can

> be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed hypothyroid

> by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>

> Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to get

> well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show me some

> light, anyone.

>

> Thanks,

> Vicki

>

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Vicky,

I understand what you are saying..

Have you done the saliva testing for your adrenals? It is good news that your body is taking in the iodine. So that must mean that you don't have a problem getting the iodine into your cells. It is also wonderful that your temp is up and you are not cold anymore.

Now, to just fine tuning things.

You are getting really close to doing everything right. I hope this helps.

results of loading test

I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it was verygood.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really thoughtthat I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was thereason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I knowthat in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have risen ahalf degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like something has"switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead inside andreally couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose that canbe placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed hypothyroidby my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested. Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to getwell just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show me somelight, anyone.Thanks,Vicki

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It is difficult to determine the true level of saturation w/o doing another

loading test in 3 - 6 mos. Like someone said a spot test would have been a

good " check " to this. My guess is that you have a symporter issue where you

have been deficient so long that your NIS have shut down and you do not have

the capability to pull iodine into the cells even if you need it.

Steph

results of loading test

>I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it was very

> good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really thought

> that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was the

> reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I know

> that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have risen a

> half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like something has

> " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead inside and

> really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose that can

> be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed hypothyroid

> by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>

> Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to get

> well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show me some

> light, anyone.

>

> Thanks,

> Vicki

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you ladies for the encouragement. I did do the spot test, but I

don't know that my nurse understood the results to tell me. A copy of

all of it is coming in the mail. I just felt so " down " when she said I

was at 84% sat. because I really had hoped to find the " answer " .

As I have been thinking and praying about it tonight, it occurred to

me that my breasts have been so tender during 3 of the 4 weeks of

supplementation. Detox? At my age, 53, that is something I haven't

experienced in a few years. :) And I know I must be detoxing some

because of the symptoms on the bromide detox list. Particularly the

achy hips and legs, headache, and acne. So, I guess I haven't wasted

my time and money on pursuing iodine. My doctor may tell me that I

have, but with my temps up closer to normal, etc. probably not.

The only check for my adrenals that I have done is the standard blood

work (traditional allopathic) that the dr. says is fine, and I did the

temp taking 3 times a day, 3 hours apart, for 5 days and averaged each

day. I think that is a protocol by Dr. Rimes? Anyway, my average temps

were within .1 degree each day, and that is supposed to indicate that

your adrenal glands are functioning properly, if I understood it okay.

Thanks for boosting me tonight, I really needed it. You gals are the best!

Blessings-

Vicki

I'll post when I get the paperwork on the spot test, etc. and you all

can help me figure out what it means. Maybe I do have a NIS

transporter issue? I will have to read more about that to see if I fit

that description. I know that my serum sodium level was okay according

to the dr. but in the book Dr. B wrote on salt, I was still

considered low at 139. So I am not limiting my salt intake, Redmond's.

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It is very rare to see anyone in the saturation level right off the bat. I

would be willing to bet that precious few truly are. If your breasts are

sore then I would bet hormonally you are shifting things around as well as

detoxing. I would keep it going and wait for the test results and post

here.

Glad we could encourage you.

Steph

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> Thank you ladies for the encouragement. I did do the spot test, but I

> don't know that my nurse understood the results to tell me. A copy of

> all of it is coming in the mail. I just felt so " down " when she said I

> was at 84% sat. because I really had hoped to find the " answer " .

>

> As I have been thinking and praying about it tonight, it occurred to

> me that my breasts have been so tender during 3 of the 4 weeks of

> supplementation. Detox? At my age, 53, that is something I haven't

> experienced in a few years. :) And I know I must be detoxing some

> because of the symptoms on the bromide detox list. Particularly the

> achy hips and legs, headache, and acne. So, I guess I haven't wasted

> my time and money on pursuing iodine. My doctor may tell me that I

> have, but with my temps up closer to normal, etc. probably not.

>

> The only check for my adrenals that I have done is the standard blood

> work (traditional allopathic) that the dr. says is fine, and I did the

> temp taking 3 times a day, 3 hours apart, for 5 days and averaged each

> day. I think that is a protocol by Dr. Rimes? Anyway, my average temps

> were within .1 degree each day, and that is supposed to indicate that

> your adrenal glands are functioning properly, if I understood it okay.

>

> Thanks for boosting me tonight, I really needed it. You gals are the best!

> Blessings-

> Vicki

>

> I'll post when I get the paperwork on the spot test, etc. and you all

> can help me figure out what it means. Maybe I do have a NIS

> transporter issue? I will have to read more about that to see if I fit

> that description. I know that my serum sodium level was okay according

> to the dr. but in the book Dr. B wrote on salt, I was still

> considered low at 139. So I am not limiting my salt intake, Redmond's.

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

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I found out I had the NIS defect because after my 2nd loading test, my

saturation level

went down. I was VERY confused until Dr. Flechas explained to me what was going

on!

Fortunately I did have the spot test done too. It seems like a lot of people

might get false

impressions of their iodine levels from the first loading test. I've been on

Iodoral since Dec

07 and I still don't feel any improvements but I'm committed to get my iodine

levels to go

up and hopefully once that happens I'll start feeling better!!

Good luck!

Marlena

> >

> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it was

> very

> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really thought

> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was the

> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I know

> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

> risen a

> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like something has

> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead inside

> and

> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose that

> can

> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed hypothyroid

> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >

> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to get

> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show me some

> > light, anyone.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Vicki

> >

>

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It will be good to get the results of the test in the mail. I too

wonder if it is NIS defect. I believe you are doing a good job

figuring out what you need. It takes time to get it all in place. I

did the thyroid and adrenals first and then looked into iodine.

Maybe not the best order but hey I am getting there. This group is

really helpful!! You will get there!

>

> Thank you ladies for the encouragement. I did do the spot test, but

I

> don't know that my nurse understood the results to tell me. A copy

of

> all of it is coming in the mail. I just felt so " down " when she

said I

> was at 84% sat. because I really had hoped to find the " answer " .

>

> As I have been thinking and praying about it tonight, it occurred to

> me that my breasts have been so tender during 3 of the 4 weeks of

> supplementation. Detox? At my age, 53, that is something I haven't

> experienced in a few years. :) And I know I must be detoxing some

> because of the symptoms on the bromide detox list. Particularly the

> achy hips and legs, headache, and acne. So, I guess I haven't wasted

> my time and money on pursuing iodine. My doctor may tell me that I

> have, but with my temps up closer to normal, etc. probably not.

>

> The only check for my adrenals that I have done is the standard

blood

> work (traditional allopathic) that the dr. says is fine, and I did

the

> temp taking 3 times a day, 3 hours apart, for 5 days and averaged

each

> day. I think that is a protocol by Dr. Rimes? Anyway, my average

temps

> were within .1 degree each day, and that is supposed to indicate

that

> your adrenal glands are functioning properly, if I understood it

okay.

>

> Thanks for boosting me tonight, I really needed it. You gals are

the best!

> Blessings-

> Vicki

>

> I'll post when I get the paperwork on the spot test, etc. and you

all

> can help me figure out what it means. Maybe I do have a NIS

> transporter issue? I will have to read more about that to see if I

fit

> that description. I know that my serum sodium level was okay

according

> to the dr. but in the book Dr. B wrote on salt, I was still

> considered low at 139. So I am not limiting my salt intake,

Redmond's.

>

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The reason it goes down is that the pumps in the first test are now working

so that they don't pull in the iodine. So you pee out more. But as you

supplement more with iodine it " wakes " them up and then they are able to

take in more iodine on the next loading test so that you are peeing out

less.

Does that make sense?

Steph

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>I found out I had the NIS defect because after my 2nd loading test, my

>saturation level

> went down. I was VERY confused until Dr. Flechas explained to me what was

> going on!

> Fortunately I did have the spot test done too. It seems like a lot of

> people might get false

> impressions of their iodine levels from the first loading test. I've been

> on Iodoral since Dec

> 07 and I still don't feel any improvements but I'm committed to get my

> iodine levels to go

> up and hopefully once that happens I'll start feeling better!!

> Good luck!

> Marlena

>

>

>> >

>> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it was

>> very

>> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really thought

>> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was the

>> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I know

>> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

>> risen a

>> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like something has

>> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead inside

>> and

>> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose that

>> can

>> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed hypothyroid

>> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>> >

>> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to get

>> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show me some

>> > light, anyone.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> > Vicki

>> >

>>

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

>

>

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WOW! Steph, that hit me like a light bulb going on :-) So it takes

awhile sometimes for the iodine to start being used where it needs to

be, yes?

> >> >

> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it

was

> >> very

> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

thought

> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was

the

> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I

know

> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

> >> risen a

> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

something has

> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

inside

> >> and

> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose

that

> >> can

> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

hypothyroid

> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >> >

> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to

get

> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

me some

> >> > light, anyone.

> >> >

> >> > Thanks,

> >> > Vicki

> >> >

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yes that's it. Because the body shuts down what it doesn't need. So when

you are low in iodine you need less symporters.

Let's give an example. A cell has 50 iodine pumps on it. But the amount of

iodine passing by in the blood will only fill 25 of the pumps. So the body

puts 25 of them to sleep. But when more iodine is passing by the pumps the

body senses that there is more iodine it wakes up more of the pumps so it

can capture the increase in iodine passing by. So you would naturally use

more.

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> WOW! Steph, that hit me like a light bulb going on :-) So it takes

> awhile sometimes for the iodine to start being used where it needs to

> be, yes?

>

>> >> >

>> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it

> was

>> >> very

>> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

> thought

>> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was

> the

>> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I

> know

>> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

>> >> risen a

>> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> something has

>> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

> inside

>> >> and

>> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose

> that

>> >> can

>> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> hypothyroid

>> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>> >> >

>> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to

> get

>> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

> me some

>> >> > light, anyone.

>> >> >

>> >> > Thanks,

>> >> > Vicki

>> >> >

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > ------------------------------------

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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Thank you Steph, I like when you explain things so my simple mind can

understand. Sometimes I need it spelled out VERY simple :-) That

helped me understand it perfectly!!!!!!!!!

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and

it

> > was

> >> >> very

> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

> > thought

> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that

was

> > the

> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

think. I

> > know

> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps

have

> >> >> risen a

> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> > something has

> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

> > inside

> >> >> and

> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

suppose

> > that

> >> >> can

> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> > hypothyroid

> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going

to

> > get

> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

> > me some

> >> >> > light, anyone.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks,

> >> >> > Vicki

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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Great. :)

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> Thank you Steph, I like when you explain things so my simple mind can

> understand. Sometimes I need it spelled out VERY simple :-) That

> helped me understand it perfectly!!!!!!!!!

>

>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and

> it

>> > was

>> >> >> very

>> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

>> > thought

>> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that

> was

>> > the

>> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

> think. I

>> > know

>> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps

> have

>> >> >> risen a

>> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

>> > something has

>> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

>> > inside

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

> suppose

>> > that

>> >> >> can

>> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

>> > hypothyroid

>> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going

> to

>> > get

>> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

>> > me some

>> >> >> > light, anyone.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks,

>> >> >> > Vicki

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

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That's a great explanation and elaboration!

Thank you,

Marlena

> >> >> >

> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it

> > was

> >> >> very

> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

> > thought

> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was

> > the

> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I

> > know

> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

> >> >> risen a

> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> > something has

> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

> > inside

> >> >> and

> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose

> > that

> >> >> can

> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> > hypothyroid

> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to

> > get

> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

> > me some

> >> >> > light, anyone.

> >> >> >

> >> >> > Thanks,

> >> >> > Vicki

> >> >> >

> >> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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Glad to help.

Steph

Re: results of loading test

> That's a great explanation and elaboration!

> Thank you,

> Marlena

>

>

>

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it

>> > was

>> >> >> very

>> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

>> > thought

>> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and that was

>> > the

>> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to think. I

>> > know

>> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps have

>> >> >> risen a

>> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

>> > something has

>> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

>> > inside

>> >> >> and

>> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose

>> > that

>> >> >> can

>> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

>> > hypothyroid

>> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was going to

>> > get

>> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

>> > me some

>> >> >> > light, anyone.

>> >> >> >

>> >> >> > Thanks,

>> >> >> > Vicki

>> >> >> >

>> >> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > ------------------------------------

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

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- I agree, it was a great explanation! I have done some more

research tonight, because my daily average temp is around 98.0. It

appears that 's Temperature Syndrome is also a possiblity. I

don't want to clog up the iodine list, but if someone has this would

you want to email me privately?

There are just so many things to look at when you are trying to be

your own doctor! I am so glad for all of you on this list who are so

helpful and so knowledgeable!

Blessings-

Vicki

-- In iodine , " ladybugsandbees " <ladybugsandbees@...>

wrote:

>

> Glad to help.

>

> Steph

>

>

> Re: results of loading test

>

>

> > That's a great explanation and elaboration!

> > Thank you,

> > Marlena

> >

> >

> >

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it

> >> > was

> >> >> >> very

> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

> >> > thought

> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

that was

> >> > the

> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

think. I

> >> > know

> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps

have

> >> >> >> risen a

> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> >> > something has

> >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

> >> > inside

> >> >> >> and

> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I suppose

> >> > that

> >> >> >> can

> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> >> > hypothyroid

> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

going to

> >> > get

> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show

> >> > me some

> >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >> > Thanks,

> >> >> >> > Vicki

> >> >> >> >

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > ------------------------------------

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

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Hi Vicki:

I read your posts and you said you had your TSH tested. Would you mind posting your numbers? Also many of us with Hashi's or Hypothyroid get their Free T3 and Free T4 tested also.

Just a thought, when my doctor's office calls me and says my tests came back "normal" or "within range", I always ask them the specific number bc what is "normal" to my PCP may not seem that way to me bc all of the symptoms I am showing. That is why I found an holistic doctor who treats by my syptoms and not just my numbers.

Good luck,

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From: vsloss1 <vsloss1@...>Subject: Re: results of loading testiodine Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 9:53 PM

- I agree, it was a great explanation! I have done some moreresearch tonight, because my daily average temp is around 98.0. Itappears that 's Temperature Syndrome is also a possiblity. Idon't want to clog up the iodine list, but if someone has this wouldyou want to email me privately? There are just so many things to look at when you are trying to beyour own doctor! I am so glad for all of you on this list who are sohelpful and so knowledgeable! Blessings-Vicki-- In iodinegroups (DOT) com, "ladybugsandbees" <ladybugsandbees@ ...>wrote:>> Glad to help.> > Steph> > > Re: results of loading test> > > > That's a great explanation and elaboration!> > Thank you,> > Marlena> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test, and it> >>

> was> >> >> >> very> >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really> >> > thought> >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine andthat was> >> > the> >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what tothink. I> >> > know> >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my tempshave> >> >> >> risen a> >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like> >> > something has> >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead> >> > inside> >> >> >> and> >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy

aroused to care. But I suppose> >> > that> >> >> >> can> >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed> >> > hypothyroid> >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I wasgoing to> >> > get> >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed. Show> >> > me some> >> >> >> > light, anyone.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Vicki> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

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My TSH was 1.97 a month ago before I started on the Iodoral. My family

dr. won't test T4 or T3 because " it isn't necessary " . I know you know

where I'm coming from on that. :) And I do understand that he is just

following standardized protocol. And because my diagnosis is

fibro/chronic fatigue syndrome, I " obviously " don't have a low

thyroid. That's not the diagnosis. The iodine testing and

supplementation was my idea from all the research I have done on the

internet, which didn't set very well with him either.

Anyway, he was willing to request the iodine/iodide loading test so

insurance would help pay for it, and I am grateful for that. I am just

befuddled that the loading test could come back at 84 % sufficient.

's explanation makes lots of sense though. I've been on a

reduced sodium diet for 35 years, and used non-iodized salt for the

last 20 years. Since I've only started eating seafood, maybe twice a

week, for the last four months, I just can't imagine having sufficient

iodine in my body. I was addicted to Mountain Dew since my teen years

and only stopped drinking it four months ago.

I haven't found a holistic dr. in our area yet. And if possible, I am

trying to work within the system, as our dr. is a close associate of

my brother-in-law. Complicated, but life is always complicated, isn't it?

Thanks.......

Vicki

> > >> >> >> >

> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,

and it

> > >> > was

> > >> >> >> very

> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really

> > >> > thought

> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

> that was

> > >> > the

> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

> think. I

> > >> > know

> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps

> have

> > >> >> >> risen a

> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> > >> > something has

> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead

> > >> > inside

> > >> >> >> and

> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

suppose

> > >> > that

> > >> >> >> can

> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> > >> > hypothyroid

> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> > >> >> >> >

> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

> going to

> > >> > get

> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed.

Show

> > >> > me some

> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> > >> >> >> >

> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> > >> >> >> >

> > >> >> >>

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >> >> >

> > >> >> >

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Well you didn't give me all that information! You were on a low salt diet. I am betting that your NIS are shut down because they are comprised of sodium (N - sodium, I- Iodine, S- Symporter). You only stopped Mt Dew 4 mos ago? If you are deficient the body looks for iodine but if it can't find it, it replaces it with bromide and that plugs the receptors. So you need to take higher doses (over 25 mgs ) of iodine to help push that bromide out of your body. Now I am convinced you do not have enough iodine in your body. I would be willing to bet that your next loading test shows a drop in levels.

Re: results of loading test

> My TSH was 1.97 a month ago before I started on the Iodoral. My family> dr. won't test T4 or T3 because "it isn't necessary". I know you know> where I'm coming from on that. :) And I do understand that he is just> following standardized protocol. And because my diagnosis is> fibro/chronic fatigue syndrome, I "obviously" don't have a low> thyroid. That's not the diagnosis. The iodine testing and> supplementation was my idea from all the research I have done on the> internet, which didn't set very well with him either.> > Anyway, he was willing to request the iodine/iodide loading test so> insurance would help pay for it, and I am grateful for that. I am just> befuddled that the loading test could come back at 84 % sufficient.> 's explanation makes lots of sense though. I've been on a> reduced sodium diet for 35 years, and used non-iodized salt for the> last 20 years. Since I've only started eating seafood, maybe twice a> week, for the last four months, I just can't imagine having sufficient> iodine in my body. I was addicted to Mountain Dew since my teen years> and only stopped drinking it four months ago.> > I haven't found a holistic dr. in our area yet. And if possible, I am> trying to work within the system, as our dr. is a close associate of> my brother-in-law. Complicated, but life is always complicated, isn't it?> > Thanks.......> Vicki> > >> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,> and it>> > >> > was>> > >> >> >> very>> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I really>> > >> > thought>> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and>> that was>> > >> > the>> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to>> think. I>> > >> > know>> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my temps>> have>> > >> >> >> risen a>> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like>> > >> > something has>> > >> >> >> > "switched on" inside me. This winter I felt like I was dead>> > >> > inside>> > >> >> >> and>> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I> suppose>> > >> > that>> > >> >> >> can>> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed>> > >> > hypothyroid>> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was>> going to>> > >> > get>> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed.> Show>> > >> > me some>> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> > Thanks,>> > >> >> >> > Vicki>> > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >

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You're right, I didn't give you enough " history " . :)

As I have thought and thought about this all night, I do believe and

agree that the high sufficiency result of the loading test is actually

going to be diagnosising the NIS problem. I increased my Iodoral to 50

mg today, and my vit. C to 4000 mg. Should I be salt loading too? in

some way. (I do use Redmond's Real Salt on my food freely, and then

" load " when I am feeling detox symptoms.) When I first posted

yesterday, I was just so overwhelmed with the idea of how could I NOT

be deficient in iodine? (knowing my history) and then the idea of " if

iodine is not part of my problem then what? " .

I can't thank all of you enough for bolstering me while the dust

settled and encouraging me to think past the results to what else they

could mean. I hope tomorrow I will receive the paperwork and can see

the results of the spot test. I will post that when I receive it and

will be interested to hear your comments.

Thanks so much again. Bless all of you, especially !!!!, for

helping those of us who are just starting out!

Vicki

> >> > >> >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,

> > and it

> >> > >> > was

> >> > >> >> >> very

> >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I

really

> >> > >> > thought

> >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

> >> that was

> >> > >> > the

> >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

> >> think. I

> >> > >> > know

> >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my

temps

> >> have

> >> > >> >> >> risen a

> >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> >> > >> > something has

> >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

was dead

> >> > >> > inside

> >> > >> >> >> and

> >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

> > suppose

> >> > >> > that

> >> > >> >> >> can

> >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

> >> > >> > hypothyroid

> >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> >> > >> >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

> >> going to

> >> > >> > get

> >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed.

> > Show

> >> > >> > me some

> >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> >> > >> >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> >> > >> >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >>

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

> >> > >> >> >

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Dr. Brownstein has me doing 1/2 - 3/4 tsp of Celtic Salt (Redmond's is fine

too) per day. I put it in OJ becuase it is easier for me to take that way.

I also use it through the day. You only need to salt load if you are having

detoxing symptoms like runny nose, headaches, acne, aching joints......,

etc.

Re: results of loading test

> You're right, I didn't give you enough " history " . :)

>

> As I have thought and thought about this all night, I do believe and

> agree that the high sufficiency result of the loading test is actually

> going to be diagnosising the NIS problem. I increased my Iodoral to 50

> mg today, and my vit. C to 4000 mg. Should I be salt loading too? in

> some way. (I do use Redmond's Real Salt on my food freely, and then

> " load " when I am feeling detox symptoms.) When I first posted

> yesterday, I was just so overwhelmed with the idea of how could I NOT

> be deficient in iodine? (knowing my history) and then the idea of " if

> iodine is not part of my problem then what? " .

>

> I can't thank all of you enough for bolstering me while the dust

> settled and encouraging me to think past the results to what else they

> could mean. I hope tomorrow I will receive the paperwork and can see

> the results of the spot test. I will post that when I receive it and

> will be interested to hear your comments.

>

> Thanks so much again. Bless all of you, especially !!!!, for

> helping those of us who are just starting out!

>

> Vicki

>

>

>> >> > >> >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,

>> > and it

>> >> > >> > was

>> >> > >> >> >> very

>> >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I

> really

>> >> > >> > thought

>> >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

>> >> that was

>> >> > >> > the

>> >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

>> >> think. I

>> >> > >> > know

>> >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my

> temps

>> >> have

>> >> > >> >> >> risen a

>> >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

>> >> > >> > something has

>> >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

> was dead

>> >> > >> > inside

>> >> > >> >> >> and

>> >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

>> > suppose

>> >> > >> > that

>> >> > >> >> >> can

>> >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been diagnosed

>> >> > >> > hypothyroid

>> >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

>> >> > >> >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

>> >> going to

>> >> > >> > get

>> >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm disappointed.

>> > Show

>> >> > >> > me some

>> >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

>> >> > >> >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

>> >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

>> >> > >> >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >>

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

>> >> > >> >> >

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Vicki, I look forward to hearing your results. It sure sounds like

NIS defect. I am learning so much from , this group and

other reading I am doing...It is great when you figure out what you

need. Hang in there!

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading

test,

> > > and it

> > >> > >> > was

> > >> > >> >> >> very

> > >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am

not. I

> really

> > >> > >> > thought

> > >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine

and

> > >> that was

> > >> > >> > the

> > >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know

what to

> > >> think. I

> > >> > >> > know

> > >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral,

my

> temps

> > >> have

> > >> > >> >> >> risen a

> > >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel

like

> > >> > >> > something has

> > >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

> was dead

> > >> > >> > inside

> > >> > >> >> >> and

> > >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care.

But I

> > > suppose

> > >> > >> > that

> > >> > >> >> >> can

> > >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been

diagnosed

> > >> > >> > hypothyroid

> > >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I

was

> > >> going to

> > >> > >> > get

> > >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm

disappointed.

> > > Show

> > >> > >> > me some

> > >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> > >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >>

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

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Yes, I thank you too, Steph!

One more question - must we do a loading test at all?

If yes, why is that? I thought the premise is that we are all deficient to begin with!

Angel

2g.

Re: results of loading test

Posted by: "janiebeau" JanieBea@... janiebeau

Tue Jul 8, 2008 6:04 pm (PDT)

Thank you Steph, I like when you explain things so my simple mind can understand. Sometimes I need it spelled out VERY simple :-) That helped me understand it perfectly!!!!!!!!!

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Drum roll, please......

Well, this is puzzling! My iodide spot test shows no iodine

deficiency. The result was .34mg/L

Any thoughts on this? This is getting more crazy by the day! But I am

still smiling today and still figuring I am on the right track. I am

definitely in bromide detox today, the second day of 50mg Iodoral. So

I am doing salt loading. Funny, isn't it, to feel lousy, but have that

be the reason you are happy? :)

Looking forward to your comments,

Blessings-

vicki

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,

> > > and it

> > >> > >> > was

> > >> > >> >> >> very

> > >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I

> really

> > >> > >> > thought

> > >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

> > >> that was

> > >> > >> > the

> > >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

> > >> think. I

> > >> > >> > know

> > >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my

> temps

> > >> have

> > >> > >> >> >> risen a

> > >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> > >> > >> > something has

> > >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

> was dead

> > >> > >> > inside

> > >> > >> >> >> and

> > >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

> > > suppose

> > >> > >> > that

> > >> > >> >> >> can

> > >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been

diagnosed

> > >> > >> > hypothyroid

> > >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

> > >> going to

> > >> > >> > get

> > >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm

disappointed.

> > > Show

> > >> > >> > me some

> > >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> > >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> > >> > >> >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >>

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> > ------------ --------- --------- ------

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

> > >> > >> >> >

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Hi Vicki,

That is strange! I am wondering if you abstained from all iodine for 48 hrs

prior to doing

the spot test and loading test? I'm not sure why we are supposed to do that but

those are

the directions... and perhaps if one doesn't abstain before the test it gives a

false high

reading ... But other than that I don't know!

-Marlena

> > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine loading test,

> > > > and it

> > > >> > >> > was

> > > >> > >> >> >> very

> > > >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am not. I

> > really

> > > >> > >> > thought

> > > >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low iodine and

> > > >> that was

> > > >> > >> > the

> > > >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know what to

> > > >> think. I

> > > >> > >> > know

> > > >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with iodoral, my

> > temps

> > > >> have

> > > >> > >> >> >> risen a

> > > >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do feel like

> > > >> > >> > something has

> > > >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

> > was dead

> > > >> > >> > inside

> > > >> > >> >> >> and

> > > >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to care. But I

> > > > suppose

> > > >> > >> > that

> > > >> > >> >> >> can

> > > >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been

> diagnosed

> > > >> > >> > hypothyroid

> > > >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on how I was

> > > >> going to

> > > >> > >> > get

> > > >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm

> disappointed.

> > > > Show

> > > >> > >> > me some

> > > >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> > > >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >>

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

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> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

> > > >> > >> >> >

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Thanks, Marlena. I wonder where I messed up too! Hopefully, Dr.

Flechas will know how to advise me anyway......

> > > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > I just received the results of my iodine

loading test,

> > > > > and it

> > > > >> > >> > was

> > > > >> > >> >> >> very

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > good.(84% saturation) I should be happy. I am

not. I

> > > really

> > > > >> > >> > thought

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > that I was probably hypothyroid due to low

iodine and

> > > > >> that was

> > > > >> > >> > the

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > reason for my great fatigue. Now I don't know

what to

> > > > >> think. I

> > > > >> > >> > know

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > that in one month of supplementing with

iodoral, my

> > > temps

> > > > >> have

> > > > >> > >> >> >> risen a

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > half degree and I am not cold anymore. I do

feel like

> > > > >> > >> > something has

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > " switched on " inside me. This winter I felt like I

> > > was dead

> > > > >> > >> > inside

> > > > >> > >> >> >> and

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > really couldn't get any energy aroused to

care. But I

> > > > > suppose

> > > > >> > >> > that

> > > > >> > >> >> >> can

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > be placebo effect or something. I had not been

> > diagnosed

> > > > >> > >> > hypothyroid

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > by my doctor, my TSH was all that was tested.

> > > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > Anyone have any encouragement? My theory on

how I was

> > > > >> going to

> > > > >> > >> > get

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > well just got shot down, I guess, and I'm

> > disappointed.

> > > > > Show

> > > > >> > >> > me some

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > light, anyone.

> > > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > Thanks,

> > > > >> > >> >> >> > Vicki

> > > > >> > >> >> >> >

> > > > >> > >> >> >>

> > > > >> > >> >> >

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