Re: headache + potassium balance

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I found an interesting article on K.

http://www.ithyroid.com/latest_ideas.htm

It says low K can cause hypothyroidism which then evolves into hyper.

He suggests that K should be balanced with Mg and says incr salt

intake will depleat it. K should be 2-6 times Mg for hypo-, equal for

hyper-.

The FDA limits of 99mg per dose are ridiculous so Marlena's suggestion

of powder is good. Dose should be 1000mg and up generally.

I have been taking 200 mg often today. Took my 2nd dose of iodine to

bring it to 50 mg for the day, then a salt load. So far, just a slight

dizziness all day that hasn't evolved into the headache.

Raised my 2PM isocort to 5mg since my stomach was feeling tense. that

seems to be my adrenal stress indicator.

I would welcome comments, pro or con on this.

Dorothy

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Caution may be in order regarding high doses of vitamin K. K is used for clotting the blood after childbirth; you don't want to cause your blood to become too thick. Also, explore liver issues re: Vitamin K.

My two cents.

Vj

From: dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...>Subject: Re: headache + potassium balanceiodine Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 6:39 PM

I found an interesting article on K.http://www.ithyroid .com/latest_ ideas.htmIt says low K can cause hypothyroidism which then evolves into hyper.He suggests that K should be balanced with Mg and says incr saltintake will depleat it. K should be 2-6 times Mg for hypo-, equal forhyper-.The FDA limits of 99mg per dose are ridiculous so Marlena's suggestionof powder is good. Dose should be 1000mg and up generally.I have been taking 200 mg often today. Took my 2nd dose of iodine tobring it to 50 mg for the day, then a salt load. So far, just a slightdizziness all day that hasn't evolved into the headache. Raised my 2PM isocort to 5mg since my stomach was feeling tense. thatseems to be my adrenal stress indicator.I would welcome comments, pro or con on this.Dorothy

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Dorothy,

What part of the country are you in? Do we need to be checking in on you? I'm in Dallas, TX. Do you have people nearby who do check in on you if you get in a pickle? With all the rebalancing of the chemistry going on in the body, its good to have folks know what' going on with you. I don't like the "dizzy" part in your report. You okay?

Vj

From: dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...>Subject: Re: headache + potassium balanceiodine Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 6:39 PM

I found an interesting article on K.http://www.ithyroid .com/latest_ ideas.htmIt says low K can cause hypothyroidism which then evolves into hyper.He suggests that K should be balanced with Mg and says incr saltintake will depleat it. K should be 2-6 times Mg for hypo-, equal forhyper-.The FDA limits of 99mg per dose are ridiculous so Marlena's suggestionof powder is good. Dose should be 1000mg and up generally.I have been taking 200 mg often today. Took my 2nd dose of iodine tobring it to 50 mg for the day, then a salt load. So far, just a slightdizziness all day that hasn't evolved into the headache. Raised my 2PM isocort to 5mg since my stomach was feeling tense. thatseems to be my adrenal stress indicator.I would welcome comments, pro or con on this.Dorothy

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K is the (chemical?) notation for Potassium. So not Vitamin K, that

is kind of confusing, isn't it?

Renae

>

> Caution may be in order regarding high doses of vitamin K.  K is

used for clotting the blood after childbirth;  you don't want to cause

your blood to become too thick.  Also, explore liver issues re:

Vitamin K. 

>  

> My two cents.

>  

> Vj

[Guest guest]

I'm fine. I live in Phoenix, AZ. I have dealt with dizzy headaches before.

Dorothy

> What part of the country are you in? Do we need to be checking in

on you? I'm in Dallas, TX. Do you have people nearby who do check in

on you if you get in a pickle? With all the rebalancing of the

chemistry going on in the body, its good to have folks know what'

going on with you. I don't like the " dizzy " part in your report. You

okay?

>

> Vj

>

[Guest guest]

This is a very interesting article!

How are you doing now? Any further thoughts about the potassium and sodium

balance?

-Marlena

>

> I found an interesting article on K.

> http://www.ithyroid.com/latest_ideas.htm

> It says low K can cause hypothyroidism which then evolves into hyper.

> He suggests that K should be balanced with Mg and says incr salt

> intake will depleat it. K should be 2-6 times Mg for hypo-, equal for

> hyper-.

> The FDA limits of 99mg per dose are ridiculous so Marlena's suggestion

> of powder is good. Dose should be 1000mg and up generally.

>

> I have been taking 200 mg often today. Took my 2nd dose of iodine to

> bring it to 50 mg for the day, then a salt load. So far, just a slight

> dizziness all day that hasn't evolved into the headache.

>

> Raised my 2PM isocort to 5mg since my stomach was feeling tense. that

> seems to be my adrenal stress indicator.

>

> I would welcome comments, pro or con on this.

>

> Dorothy

>

[Guest guest]

Renae,

Laughing here...would you believe I know that? Her post had so many references to "K" I just unthinkingly transposed it to vitamin K. Have so many vitamins and such on the brain these days along with brain fog continuing to lift. This little blooper shows the fog needs to continue to lift. Where's the Iodine!?!

Thank you for kindly pointing this out.

Vj

From: happy_babymoon <happy_babymoon@...>Subject: Re: headache + potassium balanceiodine Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 7:26 PM

K is the (chemical?) notation for Potassium. So not Vitamin K, thatis kind of confusing, isn't it?Renae>> Caution may be in order regarding high doses of vitamin K. K isused for clotting the blood after childbirth; you don't want to causeyour blood to become too thick. Also, explore liver issues re:Vitamin K. > > My two cents.> > Vj

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> How are you doing now? Any further thoughts about the potassium and

sodium balance?

> -Marlena

Well, it's bed time. I just get going and it's that time. Not too bad

a day today. I am reassured that I can take enough potassium to keep

away the headaches without disrupting my chemistry. That makes for a

fairly profitable day even if I did virtually nothing else.

I doubt low potassium caused my hypoth, was a result probably. Anyway,

I can resume my iodine regime, hopefully and get back to filling up my

cells with it.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Hey Group, Can I jump in and share some information about potassium and sodium balancing. There has been lots of talk about this in the group and many different answers. I've read Lepore's book "The Ultimate Healing System" years ago and remember that he has a system for self-determining deficiency of potassium and sodium. I took the time to type up what he said and attach that pdf file for you to read. It has helped many people in my practice with this same problem of "How do I know if my sodium and potassium is balanced?" This is a great system. docdorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...> wrote: > How are you doing now? Any further thoughts about the potassium andsodium balance?> -MarlenaWell, it's bed time. I just get going and it's that time. Not too bada day today. I am reassured that I can take enough potassium to keepaway the headaches without disrupting my chemistry. That makes for afairly profitable day even if I did virtually nothing else.I doubt low potassium caused my hypoth, was a result probably. Anyway,I can resume my iodine regime, hopefully and get back to filling up mycells with it. Dorothy

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Hey Group her it is in a form you can all recieve. Potassium and Sodium Lepore N.D. Writes in his book “The Ultimate Healing

System”: Potassium is one of the least understood minerals. It is an electrolyte, which carries the electrical energy that nurtures and activates muscles and organs. Potassium and Sodium are responsible for maintaining proper fluid balance within the body’s cells. Potassium controls more of the internal fluids of the cells (Intracellularcation) while Sodium controls more of the surrounding or external fluids around the cells. Extracellular fluids. Potassium regulates heart muscle action and arterial blood pressure. We have found that diastolic pressure (Lower number) can reduce as much as 10 to 20 points in 15 minutes after drinking an 8 ounce glass of potassium broth such as carrot juice. Check B/P before carrot juice and then 15 minutes after the juice and see the lowered B/P. Potassium helps carry our enzyme reactions throughout the body. Potassium regulates blood pH and is important in formation of glycogen in the liver, muscles, and cartilage. Potassium assures the elasticity of muscles and helps maintain different elements in solution. It is also important constituent of the right brain. When a stroke affects the right side it is usually due to blood clotting related to a

lack of potassium. Bell’s palsy on the right side is usually a potassium deficiency affecting the muscles of the face and body on the right side. The sodium influences the left side of the body. Potassium helps the kidneys eliminate waste matter, thereby assisting in eliminating blood impurities. Potassium is vital in preventing heart attacks (combined with magnesium) by strengthening the heart. Potassium feeds the entire endocrine system and thus aids in the increased glandular secretions. Deficiency symptoms for Potassium: Milk allergies or milk products like cheese Edema if sodium is high Lack of potassium can cause autointoxication of cells. Potassium is the carbon transporter from the cells via the blood stream to the lungs where oxygen meets with the carbon and carries it out of the body as carbon dioxide. A lack of potassium will cause high blood pressure and weakened heart activity. A proper balance of sodium and potassium will determine how the body will respond to external environmental changes in weather. A Lack of potassium can lead to sciatica in the

right side and leg. Diuretics, prednisone, ACTH, and Digitalis will deplete potassium levels. Also sweating in a hot climate will cause a loss of potassium, three times the amount of sodium lost. The loss of these two electrolytes can cause instantaneous allergies to most “non-green vegetables” which would cause diarrhea and nausea. It should be noted that in his book “The New Handbook of Prescription Drugs” published by Ballantine Books #29271, Brack, M.D. F.A.P.L., describes the potential negative effects of potassium chloride U.S.P. on page 284. “We feel that this pharmaceutical type of mineral pill should never be used.” In our research, Dr. Lepore says, we utilize Bee Pollen and Alfalfa concentrate capsules as a source of natural Potassium. Each 500 mg

capsule of bee pollen contains approximately 30o mg of potassium. Each 500 mg capsule of alfalfa concentrate contains 600 mg of potassium along with some sodium in a perfect balanced ratio of two parts potassium to one part of sodium. These natural sources of potassium happen to be totally absorbable and without any side effects! Some other notes from his book: A facial modality can help you self-determine your potassium need. Look in the mirror; remember that you see the opposite of your face. You can begin to observe others faces when they are relaxed, not smiling, and see the drooping or dipping of their lips on one or both sides. By

observing others you soon recognize this when looking at yourself in the mirror. If the right side of the corner of your mouth dips down you are deficient in potassium. If the left corner of your mouth dips down you are deficient in Sodium. The right side of the body is governed by Potassium and the left side is governed by Sodium. Deficiencies cause a weakness in the related side. There can be weakness, or deficiency in sodium and potassium which means that both corners of the mouth will droop down. If the right nostril is clogged you need potassium. If the left nostril is clogged you need sodium. Potassium is

more effective when taken with vitamin B-6 and sodium. Pages 70-74 of “The Ultimate Healing System” by Dr. Lepore, N.D.dwarrickh <dwarrickh@...> wrote: Attachments from this group don't show up for me. Is it possible to copy and paste that information about sodium and potassium balance

directly to the list?Thanks!Dianne- In iodine , Jerry WineBrenner <drjerry@...> wrote:>> Hey Group, Can I jump in and share some information about potassium and sodium balancing. There has been lots of talk about this in the group and many different answers. I've read Lepore's book "The Ultimate Healing System" years ago and remember that he has a system for self-determining deficiency of potassium and sodium.> I took the time to type up what he said and attach that pdf file for you to read. It has helped many people in my practice with this same problem of "How do I know if my sodium and potassium is balanced?" This is a great system.> doc> > dorothyroeder <dorothyroeder@...> wrote:> > > How are you doing now? Any further thoughts about the potassium and>

sodium balance?> > -Marlena> > Well, it's bed time. I just get going and it's that time. Not too bad> a day today. I am reassured that I can take enough potassium to keep> away the headaches without disrupting my chemistry. That makes for a> fairly profitable day even if I did virtually nothing else.> > I doubt low potassium caused my hypoth, was a result probably. Anyway,> I can resume my iodine regime, hopefully and get back to filling up my> cells with it. > > Dorothy>

[Guest guest]

Really interesting article, Jerry.

It says 2x as much K as Na. So for every 1/2 tsp salt, we take 1 tsp

potassium chloride?

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Thank you for sharing this with all of us. This is important to me

since I have to take K with my diurtics. So, my question is, if I take

20 meq of K (precription) how much Bee Pollen and Alfalfa would I need

to take to equal the amount I need? And, he is saying that prescription

type is not so great, hey?

Thanks, Janie

>

> Hey Group her it is in a form you can all recieve.

> Potassium and Sodium

[Guest guest]

Can anyone answer this question? If I take

20 meq of K (precription) how much Bee Pollen and Alfalfa would I need

to take to equal the amount I need?

I asked before but didn't get an answer.

Thanks, Janie

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Hi Janie,

20 MEQ of potassium is about 1500mg ... I'm not sure you can eat enough alfalfa

concentrate and bee pollen to equal that amount... One company sent me their

info about

organic alfalfa and you have to take 9 tabs just to get 120mg. I couldn't find

any specific

data for bee pollen. The thing is I would bet the potassium in these products is

very bio-

available, but ...

Here's an idea -- In one Tbsp of 'Wholesome Sweeteners' brand blackstrap

molasses there

is 730mg of potassium! That's almost half of your requirement. I used to mix it

in kefir or

yogurt so that it wasn't super sweet all at once and the protein slows down the

sugar

spike. Then If you ate 1 avacado/day (approx 500mg) and 1 banana or potato you

would

be set! Here is some info I found from

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_August_2/ai_n6136210:

One serving of skin-on potatoes (5.3-ounces) contains 720 mg of potassium,

making it

an excellent source of potassium. Runners-up in the potassium category include

broccoli

(540 mg per serving), bananas (400 mg per serving), tomatoes (360 mg per

serving), and

oranges (260 mg per serving)

-Marlena

>

> Can anyone answer this question? If I take

> 20 meq of K (precription) how much Bee Pollen and Alfalfa would I need

> to take to equal the amount I need?

> I asked before but didn't get an answer.

> Thanks, Janie

>

[Guest guest]

WOW Marlena, thank you for this information! It sure beats grazing in

the alfalfa field down the road...lol. Seriously though, I would much

rather have my potassium by nature's natural form, rather then the RX

I fill. I usually have to take 2 of those- 20 meq's a day. I like

Molasses cookies ... wonder if I would like it in my kefir smoothie?

I'll have to try it. Right now I put some of that Really Raw Honey

that has the bee pollen in it, I put that and coconut oil in my

smoothie. Thanks again.

Janie

>

> Hi Janie,

> 20 MEQ of potassium is about 1500mg ... I'm not sure you can eat

enough alfalfa

> concentrate and bee pollen to equal that amount... One company sent

me their info about

> organic alfalfa and you have to take 9 tabs just to get 120mg. I

couldn't find any specific

> data for bee pollen. The thing is I would bet the potassium in

these products is very bio-

> available, but ...

> Here's an idea -- In one Tbsp of 'Wholesome Sweeteners' brand

blackstrap molasses there

> is 730mg of potassium! That's almost half of your requirement. I

used to mix it in kefir or

> yogurt so that it wasn't super sweet all at once and the protein

slows down the sugar

> spike. Then If you ate 1 avacado/day (approx 500mg) and 1 banana or

potato you would

> be set! Here is some info I found from

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2004_August_2/ai_n61362

10:

>

> One serving of skin-on potatoes (5.3-ounces) contains 720 mg of

potassium, making it

> an excellent source of potassium. Runners-up in the potassium

category include broccoli

> (540 mg per serving), bananas (400 mg per serving), tomatoes (360

mg per serving), and

> oranges (260 mg per serving)

>

> -Marlena