Re: Good Iodine Article

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Hi. This is my first post. Thank you for allowing me to be a member

of this group.

Yes, the above article is highly readable & succinct, . I wanted

to get opinions on the writer's statement as follows:

" Either the Japanese are mutants capable of surviving on toxic levels

of iodine or we have been grossly deceived. "

I don't think we should draw a straight line between the relatively

good general health of the Japanese, as the author claims, and their

much-higher-than-ours consumption of iodine.

First of all, they consume their iodine, I believe, not in

supplemental form, but in seaweed & animal seafood form. But seaweed

and animal seafoods contain other things, too - both good & bad,

probably, and that would have to be factored in to the simplistic

equation.

My point (I do have one, believe it or not) is that maybe the relative

good health of the Japanese population would have to be judged by

their overall diet and lifestyle, not just a simple measurement of the

iodine content of their seafood. If anything, maybe they have a

greater need for this greater amount of iodine because of the

goitrogens in their diet, and their bodies have become accustomed to

this. In plain English, they've achieved a balance, tho they are

unaware of it.

Maybe the Japanese, like us, need plain pure Iodine/Iodide in their

diets and not all the unknown stuff contained in large quantities of

seaweed, etc.

If someone has previously made these points, then I apologize in

advance.

In my own case, I recently (2 weeks ago) started taking an iodine

supplement but I think I ramped it up too fast (developed unpleasant

symptoms) so I quit for a few days, then restarted at a lower dose.

The benefit of doing it this way is becoming evident.

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My chiropractor/GP is native born Japanese so I did ask her about this

in terms of Japanese health and American health as she now lives here

and exposed to our diet more. Anyway iodine is one factor. The one

that she states for having more than a million people over 100 is

commonly thought in her country to be from fermented soy that is

regularly eaten by most adults . It is called nattonaise. I know she

believes in the stuff cause has her husband eating that and also has

me on a supplement of it. It thins the blood so leads to fewer heart

attacks and strokes and blood clots. I have had 7 blood clots while

doing aspirin thinning which didn't help with 5 of them and surgery

had one more. So now I take NSK twice daily which is cheaper than

eating nattonaise like her husband who likes the fermented soy like

she does.

Pam

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Mrs. Barley <chosenbarley@...> wrote:

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> Hi. This is my first post. Thank you for allowing me to be a member

> of this group.

>

> Yes, the above article is highly readable & succinct, . I wanted

> to get opinions on the writer's statement as follows:

>

> " Either the Japanese are mutants capable of surviving on toxic levels

> of iodine or we have been grossly deceived. "

>

> I don't think we should draw a straight line between the relatively

> good general health of the Japanese, as the author claims, and their

> much-higher-than-ours consumption of iodine.

>

> First of all, they consume their iodine, I believe, not in

> supplemental form, but in seaweed & animal seafood form. But seaweed

> and animal seafoods contain other things, too - both good & bad,

> probably, and that would have to be factored in to the simplistic

> equation.

>

> My point (I do have one, believe it or not) is that maybe the relative

> good health of the Japanese population would have to be judged by

> their overall diet and lifestyle, not just a simple measurement of the

> iodine content of their seafood. If anything, maybe they have a

> greater need for this greater amount of iodine because of the

> goitrogens in their diet, and their bodies have become accustomed to

> this. In plain English, they've achieved a balance, tho they are

> unaware of it.

>

> Maybe the Japanese, like us, need plain pure Iodine/Iodide in their

> diets and not all the unknown stuff contained in large quantities of

> seaweed, etc.

>

> If someone has previously made these points, then I apologize in

> advance.

>

> In my own case, I recently (2 weeks ago) started taking an iodine

> supplement but I think I ramped it up too fast (developed unpleasant

> symptoms) so I quit for a few days, then restarted at a lower dose.

> The benefit of doing it this way is becoming evident.

>

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I have not read the article yet, but I wanted to interject that the Japanese (generalizing here) eat fermented foods on a daily basis. And I mean fermented foods that have not been pasteurized or cooked, so the probiotics are still active. I believe this is a large part of their relative good health.

Just an aside- but I think many Japanese are so creative and focused. I envy that. I love their arts and crafts, dolls and toys in particular.-- Warmest Regards,Robin Little the relative

good health of the Japanese population would have to be judged by

their overall diet and lifestyle, not just a simple measurement of the

iodine content of their seafood.

[Guest guest]

The Japanese do have high rates of stomach cancer however. Here is a

great article on their traditional diets to put there whole diets into

perspective.

http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/japan.html

[Guest guest]

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> The Japanese do have high rates of stomach cancer however. Here is a

> great article on their traditional diets to put there whole diets into

> perspective.

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> http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/japan.html

I enjoyed reading the article. Speaking of perspective, though, I

would keep in mind that the Weston Price people have their own agenda,

and that they see everything thru their own particular lens. I don't

disagree with anything in their article, nor their conclusions, and I

suspect that they are quite accurate.

Guess I am going on a tangent here: Dr. W. Price studied a whole slew

of different races/cultures who ate in certain way and who had

excellent physical health, energy, bones & teeth, etc. Yet, to the

best of my knowledge, most of them did not live very long compared to

the industrialized countries. I wonder how they would square this at

the Weston Price Foundation.

I do like their advice for food preparation, but it can all get time

consuming and even difficult. What do you think?

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