Re: melatonin and betablockers

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Hi Mo hon

Well it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in general

the betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?

bad news.

Glad you found out about it though.

I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop US

having to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you learn

from other people on these forums. Also very tricky trying to balance

everything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.

You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,

keep going

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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I took beta blockers for anxiety but only for a couple of weeks, they werent the answer and I found out they block the conversion of T4 to T3 so I dont take them now, also dawn diazapan lowers cortisol!

Hi Mo honWell it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in generalthe betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?bad news.Glad you found out about it though.I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop UShaving to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you learnfrom other people on these forums. Also very tricky trying to balanceeverything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,keep going :)lotsa luvDawnx

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Hi Dawn What other hormones does Atenolol mess with dearheart? So much

to learn............

Mo

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> Well it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in general

> the betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?

> bad news.

> Glad you found out about it though.

> I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop US

> having to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you learn

> from other people on these forums. Also very tricky trying to balance

> everything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.

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> You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,

> keep going

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> lotsa luv

> Dawnx

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Prozac does it too as does epam -

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119441103/abstract

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> Hi Mo hon

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> Well it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in general

> the betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?

> bad news.

> Glad you found out about it though.

> I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop US

> having to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you

learn

> from other people on these forums. Also very tricky trying to

balance

> everything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.

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> You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,

> keep going

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> lotsa luv

> Dawnx

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[Guest guest]

Actually SSRI's, prozac being one of those, actually increase ACTH activitey, increasing cortisol output which is why some people have trouble sleeping at the beginning of treatment with these drugs

Prozac does it too as does epam - http://www3. interscience. wiley.com/ journal/11944110 3/abstract>> I took beta blockers for anxiety but only for a couple of weeks, they werent the answer and I found out they block the conversion of T4 to T3 so I dont take them now, also dawn diazapan lowers cortisol!> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mo hon> > Well it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in general> the betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?> bad news.> Glad you found out about it though.> I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop US> having to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you learn> from other people on

these forums. Also very tricky trying to balance> everything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.> > You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,> keep going > > lotsa luv> Dawnx>

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I think you are referrig to melatonin Mo, I was talking about cortisol. Its funny really as people are given diazapan for sleep! I do know that diazapan lowers cortisol which is why it helps with sleep I guess. SSRI's increase cortisol activity

Prozac does it too as does epam - http://www3. interscience. wiley.com/ journal/11944110 3/abstract>> I took beta blockers for anxiety but only for a couple of weeks, they werent the answer and I found out they block the conversion of T4 to T3 so I dont take them now, also dawn diazapan lowers cortisol!> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mo hon> > Well it seems apart from being bad for thyroid sufferers in general> the betablocker also messes with other hormones on the HPA axis eh?> bad news.> Glad you found out about it though.> I do wish they would train more hormone specialists, would stop US> having to become darn hormone specialists. Its amazing what you learn> from other people on

these forums. Also very tricky trying to balance> everything up without the help of a doc and a handy lab.> > You are finding things out bit by bit, well done hon and good luck,> keep going > > lotsa luv> Dawnx>

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Yes I was referring to melatonin being lowered by Prozac, same

as it gets lowered by epam and betablockekers.

And I think they way it may work is that lowering the melatonin this

way allows oestrogen to rise which then binds with thyroid hormone

making it inaccessible to us.

Mo

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> I think you are referrig to melatonin Mo, I was talking about

cortisol. Its funny really as people are given diazapan for sleep! I

do know that diazapan lowers cortisol which is why it helps with

sleep I guess. SSRI's increase cortisol activity

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Prozac is the only one I've read about that lowers melatonin.

Mo

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> Actually SSRI's, prozac being one of those, actually increase ACTH

activitey, increasing cortisol output which is why some people have

trouble sleeping at the beginning of treatment with these drugs

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