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Hi - so glad that you posted - Dr P has helped so many patients to get well and he will get you well - and he is such a lovely man too isnt he?

Good energy to you too!

Gill

that I had my first meeting with Dr. P today and at last I have found hope where there was hoplessness !

Going through the door felt like a bit of a mystic moment to be honest but what a great weight of doubt and worry was lifted from me.Just to be with someone who knows exactly what he is doing,who explains everything perfectly and who completely understands what needs to be done and when.I feel completely empowered for the first time in a long time.And to be told that I will get better......fantastic.

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Hi

I had the same feeling when I first saw Dr Peatfield. He made me feel

as though I was not a silly old woman who was imagining her ailments.

He made me feel empowered - I could take control of my own health -

with his help - and make myself better. My health has improved so much

since I saw him last year.

I felt the same way when I saw him a second time - and when I speak to

him on the phone he lifts my spirits.

I feel so grateful to have found Dr P and the TPA it sometimes makes me

feel quite tearful.

B

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HI

Urrrgh I dont envy you moving house; hope its as stress-free as it

possibly can be!

I'm very pleased for you that you are now seeing progress and have

something to work with.

Something you said about migraines struck a chord with me. Whenever

I'm hypothyroid I get severe migraines, day in day out. As my meds

increase the migraines become less frequent.

However I also know that certain food intolerances cause my migraines;

chief amongst those are an intolerance to citrus fruits and dairy

foods. For some people wheat, wine, coffee are triggers. You've

probably considered this already, but tjust in case no-one ever

mentioned it to you....

And as if that werent enough, whenever I try a new supplement and if

it doesnt suit me, it causes migraines. No matter how beneficial the

supplement, it just might be that it isnt suiting you personally.

Some things which have set me off in the past are a new multivit, and

also the vegEPA product when I tried it a few years ago. If you think

that might be a cause, someone who knows kinesiology would be able to

help you test your supplements to see if they suit you.

Is there any chance that you are reacting to a food intolerance or one

of your supplements just doesnt suit you? When our bodies are

struggling to cope with thyroid/adrenal issues it seems reasonable

that they would kick up other symptoms too.

Alternatively, could there be a " structural " cause to your migraines,

ie an old back or neck or shoulder problem which is affecting

circulation or something?

In the summer I started doing a little light yoga and I used to find

that it helped clear up a migraine. I dont know if it was the

improved circulation while I was stretching or what, but within 15-20

minutes the migraine would have lifted. I was learning it from a book

called " Beat Fatigue With Yoga " by Fiona Agombar. Fiona had CFS

herself for years, so her book is written with CFS patients in mind.

Hopefully your latest appointment means you now have a starting point

for improving your health even further.

I had my first appointment with him last weekend and as I had been

self treating based on his book and help from this forum, I was really

pleased to get his input. Like you he reckons I've had adrenal issue

since my thyroid was removed 20 years ago. It never occurred to me

that it might have gone back that far.

Anyway, I hope you get some relief from the migraines.

Marie

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Hi Marie/

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v456/n7221/abs/nature07414.html

Beat Fatigue with Yoga ~ Hey, see the nature article above

This paper is aimed at muscular fatigue problems (mouse model).

What's interesting is that the same mechanism may play a role in migraine in that neuronal NOS (Nitric Oxide Synthase) could indeed affect both conditions, ie migraine and post exercise muscle fatigue.

The Editorial in Nature (Nov 28th) points the way foward.

Incidence of migraine can be improved with magnesium and vit B6.

Food intolerances may be associated with tyrosine and/or other monoamines.

The thyroid hormones have a metabolic route that also creates monoamines, more importantly <> 3-iodothyronamine causes a rapid reversal of the effects of T3.

The arguments on elevated levels of RT3 causing fatigue may also impact this aspect of fatigue and/or migraine production.

RT3 stuck in the T3 receptors was proposed as a cause of the apparent Thryoid Hormone Resistance.....

Not sure how the paper on Fibromyalgia fits into this yet, but it's likely to be very important for long term mobility in older folk....so watch this space :-)

Nitric Oxide Synthase was the subject of a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

best wishes

Bob

>> HI > Urrrgh I dont envy you moving house; hope its as stress-free as it> possibly can be!> > I'm very pleased for you that you are now seeing progress and have> something to work with.

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> However I also know that certain food intolerances cause my

>migraines;And as if that werent enough, whenever I try a new

>supplement and if it doesnt suit me, it causes migraines. someone

>who knows kinesiology would be able to help you test your

>supplements to see if they suit you.> Alternatively, could there be

>a " structural " cause to your migraines, In the summer I started

>doing a little light yoga and I used to find that it helped clear

>up a migraine.

Hello Marie

Thanks ever so much for your reply.

I have indeed considered food intolerances and by cutting out wheat,

dairy and all additives etc., the classic, sick throbbing headaches

all but disappeared but what I didn't lose are the vestibular

symptoms.

I'm very interested in what you say about supplements. Even on this

adrenal/thyroid journey I've had to stop taking quite a few I've

tried because they made me feel worse not better and I always had

more headache/dizziness when on them.

As for kinesiology, someone had mentioned that on the the forum a

while back and I'd looked into it and was considering it but then

the kinesiologist near me left and I never took it any further. I

had no idea though that they could tell which supplements suit you

or not. If I could find one that could tell me that I'd be very

happy! Thanks for the idea.

I think my diet's pretty clean now but I have often wondered about

the supplements I take but didn't want to go through a process of

elimination because it takes so long and also I didn't want to

interfere with what balance I have acheived as it's been so hard won.

Yoga. Someone else has recently told me how helpful this can be and

I've even bought a yoga CD from the charity shop but haven't used it

yet! I'll try anything if it will bring relief and I have heard

good things about yoga, for adrenals too, the gentle stretching that

is. Sometimes we know stuff but it's getting around to actually

doing it that's the problem isn't it?

I need to check my pillows. Because of my dizziness I like to be a

bit upright when I sleep and I think I may be causing more problems

that I'm solving and maybe as you say asking for circulation and

structural problems there.

Having had your first appointment with Dr P you'll know then how

lovely and helpful he is and how he gives you the confidence to see

the treatment through. It must have been nice for you to put a face

to the author of the book you'd read and were using to self treat.

And yes, when we look back using the knowledge acquired from reading

books like Dr P's and this site, isn't it revealing to start to

understand what was actually going on before we'd ever heard the

term adrenals. An awful lot gets explained.

Thanks again Marie for all your suggestions. Much appreciated. Hope

you have continued success sorting out your own issues.

x

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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v456/n7221/abs/nature07414.html

> What's interesting is that the same mechanism may play a role in

> migraine in that neuronal NOS (Nitric Oxide Synthase) could indeed

> affect both conditions, ie migraine and post exercise muscle

> fatigue.

Just wanted to say thank you for this Bob. I've googled NOS and have

come up with some really interesting stuff to ponder. I don't

understand it all yet but I'm intrigued enough to push myself to try

to!

Thanks

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Hi Marelene

I am so glad your throid seems to be back online :) just getting the

adrenals sorted eh? Hope it all goes well, keep resting hon. I get

some bonzo headaches when my electrolytes are out. Do you sup sea

salt? Also dehydration kills my head too, but I am sure you know about

that cause too. I am going to read that NOS thing, it sounds interesting.

Hope you keep on the up luv

Dawnx

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Is sea salt affective for headaches, I have heard it is but just wondered if anyone has had success with it, seems to suffer the same sort of funny heads that I get, well mine are more or less constant

Hi MareleneI am so glad your throid seems to be back online :) just getting theadrenals sorted eh? Hope it all goes well, keep resting hon. I getsome bonzo headaches when my electrolytes are out. Do you sup seasalt? Also dehydration kills my head too, but I am sure you know aboutthat cause too. I am going to read that NOS thing, it sounds interesting.Hope you keep on the up luvDawnx

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>

> I am so glad your throid seems to be back online :) just getting

>the

> adrenals sorted eh? Hope it all goes well, keep resting hon. I get

> some bonzo headaches when my electrolytes are out. Do you sup sea

> salt? Also dehydration kills my head too, but I am sure you know

>about that cause too. I am going to read that NOS thing, it sounds

>interesting.

Thanks Dawn

So typical of you to be thinking of others when you're feeling so

bad yourself. But they say what goes around comes around so I reckon

it'll be your turn soon.

I do sup sea salt yes. And you're right about the dehydration. I'm

always letting my water intake fall short of what it should be. And

yes, I think you would find the NOS thing interesting. Google it as

well when you feel up to it.

Look after yourself

x

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> Is sea salt affective for headaches, I have heard it is but just

>wondered if anyone has had success with it, seems to suffer

>the same sort of funny heads that I get, well mine are more or less

>constant.

I too have read that sea salt has helped folk to get rid of

their headaches but unfortunately it's never worked like that for

me. I take the sea salt more for adrenal support.

On the odd occasion when my head feels better, as in better than it

was because it's never good, I've often tried to think what I've

done differently to make it so but there is never any pattern.

Anyway, the betterness is always short lived.

The salt is worth a try though.

x

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Hi ,

Like you, I wonder about the 'effects' in the brain when it seems OK, then, I wonder if mercury is the basic problem, when it comes unstuck again?

That's on days when I'm not cynical as well.

Bob

> >> > Is sea salt affective for headaches, I have heard it is but just > >wondered if anyone has had success with it, seems to suffer > >the same sort of funny heads that I get, well mine are more or less > >constant.>

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> As for kinesiology, someone had mentioned that on the the forum a

> while back and I'd looked into it and was considering it but then

> the kinesiologist near me left and I never took it any further. I

> had no idea though that they could tell which supplements suit you

> or not. If I could find one that could tell me that I'd be very

> happy! Thanks for the idea.

>

Oh you're welcome.

Using kinesiology to test your supplements is really worth trying out.

I brought everything I was taking, including the HC, DHEA &

pregnenolone and had them tested. Using kinesiology I was able to

discover that HC & DHEA were working for me but pregnenolone wasnt so

I cut that one way down. When I saw Dr P he did his own testing and

confirmed that the adrenal support " package " was working very well.

It was nice to have that backed up for my own peace of mind.

So it doesnt just help you identify problems, it also helps you to

custom-design your supplement program, and discover what quantity of

each works best for you.

Next time I go back I'll take the Armour & T4 (and maybe T3) meds with

me to see if I can figure out an optimum dosage.

Even if you cant find a dedicated kinesiologist you might find another

type of therapist who uses it. For instance, I see a homeopath who

uses kinesiology as part of his approach and thats how I have access

to it.

Good luck finding someone near you!

Marie

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I have trimmed the post you are replying to.

Lilian

That's excellent news ! Well done you.

And it is good to be reminded that a good doctor will treat to

symptoms and not just treat a piece of paper as seems to be

commonplace.

Mo

>

> Hi everyone

>

> Thank you to all those who tried to help me suss out what's been

> going on with me the last couple of weeks with my high T4 count.

>

> I've just returned from a visit with Dr P and it seems it was high

> because I wasn't converting enough. The symptoms of heart awareness

> and pounding and a body buzziness were definitely due to high T4 he

> said.

>

> On the plus side he thinks I don't have a thyroid problem anymore!

> It appears my body has been sorting itself out! And when my

adrenals

> are a little more healed, enabling more conversion, the T4 level

> should go down.

>

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> Using kinesiology to test your supplements is really worth trying

>out. Good luck finding someone near you!

Thanks Marie. I've just looked up kinesiologists in the area we are

moving to shortly and there are a couple of them nearby. So I shall

definitely be ringing one of them.

Regarding your meds and supplements, how does that work? Do you have

to swallow them when there or what?

x

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> And it is good to be reminded that a good doctor will treat to

> symptoms and not just treat a piece of paper as seems to be

> commonplace.

Isn't it just! And to walk out feeling better than when you went in,

regardless of the outcome of the consultation, simply because the

doctor has given you the courtesy of genuinely listening to you and

taking you seriously. Worth it's weight in gold. With the added bonus

of course that Dr P really knows his stuff!

x

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I have a Trutester which enables self-testing in this respect. See

www.trutester.com.

Mo

>

>

> >

> > As for kinesiology, someone had mentioned that on the the forum a

> > while back and I'd looked into it and was considering it but then

> > the kinesiologist near me left and I never took it any further. I

> > had no idea though that they could tell which supplements suit

you

> > or not. If I could find one that could tell me that I'd be very

> > happy! Thanks for the idea.

> >

>

>

> Oh you're welcome.

>

> Using kinesiology to test your supplements is really worth trying

out.

> I brought everything I was taking, including the HC, DHEA &

> pregnenolone and had them tested. Using kinesiology I was able to

> discover that HC & DHEA were working for me but pregnenolone wasnt

so

> I cut that one way down. When I saw Dr P he did his own testing and

> confirmed that the adrenal support " package " was working very well.

> It was nice to have that backed up for my own peace of mind.

>

> So it doesnt just help you identify problems, it also helps you to

> custom-design your supplement program, and discover what quantity of

> each works best for you.

>

> Next time I go back I'll take the Armour & T4 (and maybe T3) meds

with

> me to see if I can figure out an optimum dosage.

>

> Even if you cant find a dedicated kinesiologist you might find

another

> type of therapist who uses it. For instance, I see a homeopath who

> uses kinesiology as part of his approach and thats how I have access

> to it.

>

> Good luck finding someone near you!

> Marie

>

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> Regarding your meds and supplements, how does that work? Do you have

> to swallow them when there or what?

No, you just hold a pill in your hand and they test the strength in

that arm.

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> I have a Trutester which enables self-testing in this respect. See

> www.trutester.com.

>

Mo, do you find it good? I saw this a few weeks ago but wasnt sure

whether it was all too good to be true.... the quote on their website

about asking whether the pyramids were built by aliens didnt convince

me any !!!! :)

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You can get a friend to test you Marie, or there are self-testing

procedures, it does not have to be a kinesiologist though practice

obviously helps.

Mo

:

>

> > Regarding your meds and supplements, how does that work? Do you

have

> > to swallow them when there or what?

>

>

> No, you just hold a pill in your hand and they test the strength in

> that arm.

>

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> > Regarding your meds and supplements, how does that work? Do you

>have to swallow them when there or what?

>

> No, you just hold a pill in your hand and they test the strength in

> that arm.

Thanks Marie. Simpler than I thought then!

x

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