RE: answer to add to list..(Celebrex).

October 18, 2004

I'd be afraid to use Celebrex after the recent Vioxx controversy.

October 18, 2004

I recently started using Celebrex (cox2 inhibitor) and it does wonders for

the pain in my legs and also seems to have relieves the stiffness somewhat.

B.

Original Message:

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From: petessweetheart petessweetheart@...

Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:50 -0000

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Question for to add to list...

<tt>

Hi, . I really hate to pile anything else on you, and you

might already know the answer, but it's one worth asking if you

don't. Alot of people give conflicting answers as to what you can

do for pain medications while taking LDN. Has this question ever

been posed directly to Dr. Bihari? I would think that of all the

diseases he is using to treat with LDN, many of them would still

require pain meds other than tylenol or OTC medications. Would it

be too much trouble for you to ask him, or if the answer is already

posted here somewhere, to let me know? My son doesn't have any

pain, but he is so active now that he is on LDN that I keep

wondering about this " just in case " . None of our local docs know

beans about LDN, so I can't get my answer there. Thanks for your

help in advance!

Kim

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October 18, 2004

If you believe what Dr.Mercola says then you wouldn't have celebrex in your system at all.

Reg.

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/18/04 10:27:38

low dose naltrexone

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to list..(Celebrex).

I recently started using Celebrex (cox2 inhibitor) and it does wonders forthe pain in my legs and also seems to have relieves the stiffness somewhat. B.Original Message:-----------------From: petessweetheart petessweetheart@...Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:50 -0000low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Question for to add to list...<html><body><tt> Hi, . I really hate to pile anything else on you, and you might already know the answer, but it's one worth asking if you don't. Alot of people give conflicting answers as to what you can do for pain medications while taking LDN. Has this question ever been posed directly to Dr. Bihari? I would think that of all the diseases he is using to treat with LDN, many of them would still require pain meds other than tylenol or OTC medications. Would it be too much trouble for you to ask him, or if the answer is already posted here somewhere, to let me know? My son doesn't have any pain, but he is so active now that he is on LDN that I keep wondering about this "just in case". None of our local docs know beans about LDN, so I can't get my answer there. Thanks for your help in advance! Kim </tt> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC><td align=center>Sponsor</td></tr><tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF><td align=center width=470><table border=0 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><tr> <td align=center>ADVERTISEMENT <ahref="http://us.ard./SIG=12cjsbh3n/M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176/D=grphealth/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1098201105/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*https://www.orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply & media=EMYHNL40F21004SS" alt=""><imgsrc=" " alt="click here" width="300" height="250"border="0"></a></td></tr></table> </td></tr><tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1src="http://us.adserver./l?M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176/D=grphealth/S=:HM/A=2372354/rand=627241088"></td></tr></table> <tt><hr width="500">

October 18, 2004

I am currently taking 80 mg of Zocor every night for

prgressive MS, and my neuro has just prescribed LDN.

Does anyone know of a problem taking both of these

drugs?

Barb

--- Reg Kreil <regkreil@...> wrote:

> If you believe what Dr.Mercola says then you

> wouldn't have celebrex in your

> system at all.

> Reg.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: low dose naltrexone

> Date: 10/18/04 10:27:38

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to

> list..(Celebrex).

>

> I recently started using Celebrex (cox2 inhibitor)

> and it does wonders for

> the pain in my legs and also seems to have relieves

> the stiffness somewhat.

>

> B.

>

> Original Message:

> -----------------

> From: petessweetheart petessweetheart@...

> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:50 -0000

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Question for to

> add to list...

>

> <html><body>

>

> <tt>

>

> Hi, . I really hate to pile anything else on

> you, and you

> might already know the answer, but it's one worth

> asking if you

> don't. Alot of people give conflicting answers as

> to what you can

> do for pain medications while taking LDN. Has this

> question ever

> been posed directly to Dr. Bihari? I would think

> that of all the

> diseases he is using to treat with LDN, many of them

> would still

> require pain meds other than tylenol or OTC

> medications. Would it

> be too much trouble for you to ask him, or if the

> answer is already

> posted here somewhere, to let me know? My son

> doesn't have any

> pain, but he is so active now that he is on LDN that

> I keep

> wondering about this " just in case " . None of our

> local docs know

> beans about LDN, so I can't get my answer there.

> Thanks for your

> help in advance!

>

> Kim

>

> </tt>

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October 18, 2004

I remember first hearing about this several years ago. I know someone who is taking one of the statins for his MS condition with no signs of improvement. Maybe he's that one in a large number that it doesn't work for. I would just rather not take something that may do more harm than good. Funny how most docs don't have a problem with this off-label prescribing, but when it comes to LDN, they act like this off-label practice is unheard of!

Marcie

In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:12:40 PM Central Daylight Time, mamomoma@... writes:

There is evidence in the literature that high dose

statins (cholesterol lowering drugs) decreases flares

and might actually reverse MS damage (MRI's show

IMPROVEMENT).) You must take a higher dose than that

generally given for cholesterol problems. You also

must follow the liver enzymes closely as there is the

risk of hepatotoxicity. I don't think it has been

100% proven for humans, but the rats are doing

great!Look it up on the internet!

Barb

October 18, 2004

Barb,

LDN and Zocor and just fine together. I do hope you add some CoQ10 to your regimen.

Wayne Loveland, R.Ph.

----- Original Message -----

From: Barbara Bachow

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 2:45 PM

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to list..(Celebrex).

I am currently taking 80 mg of Zocor every night forprgressive MS, and my neuro has just prescribed LDN. Does anyone know of a problem taking both of thesedrugs?Barb--- Reg Kreil <regkreil@...> wrote:> If you believe what Dr.Mercola says then you> wouldn't have celebrex in your> system at all.> Reg. > > -------Original Message-------> > From: low dose naltrexone > Date: 10/18/04 10:27:38> low dose naltrexone > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to> list..(Celebrex).> > I recently started using Celebrex (cox2 inhibitor)> and it does wonders for> the pain in my legs and also seems to have relieves> the stiffness somewhat.> > B.> > Original Message:> -----------------> From: petessweetheart petessweetheart@...> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:50 -0000> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Question for to> add to list...> > > > <html><body>> > > <tt>> > Hi, . I really hate to pile anything else on> you, and you > might already know the answer, but it's one worth> asking if you > don't. Alot of people give conflicting answers as> to what you can > do for pain medications while taking LDN. Has this> question ever > been posed directly to Dr. Bihari? I would think> that of all the > diseases he is using to treat with LDN, many of them> would still > require pain meds other than tylenol or OTC> medications. Would it > be too much trouble for you to ask him, or if the> answer is already > posted here somewhere, to let me know? My son> doesn't have any > pain, but he is so active now that he is on LDN that> I keep > wondering about this "just in case". None of our> local docs know > beans about LDN, so I can't get my answer there. > Thanks for your > help in advance! > > Kim > > > > </tt>> > > > > > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>> <td align=center> color=#003399>> Sponsor</td>> </tr>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF>> <td align=center width=470><table border=0> cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>> <tr> <td align=center> size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT <a>href="http://us.ard./SIG=12cjsbh3n/M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176>/D=grphealth/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1098201105/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*htt>ps://www.orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply & media=EMYHNL40F21004S> S" alt=""><img>src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ho/household/f2_free2_300x250_def_0> 904.gif" alt="click here" width="300" height="250"> border="0"></a></td></tr></table> </td>> </tr>> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1>src="http://us.adserver./l?M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176/D=grphe> alth/S=:HM/A=2372354/rand=627241088"></td></tr>> </table>> > > > > > > > > <tt><hr width="500">>

October 19, 2004

I just read the product monograph and Zocor is for cholesterol problems

Does your Dr. know something we don't?

Reg

Lipid-altering agents should be used in addition to a diet restricted in saturated fat and cholesterol (see National Cholesterol Education Program [NCEP] Treatment Guidelines, below).

In patients with CHD or at high risk of CHD, ZOCOR can be started simultaneously with diet.

Reductions in Risk of CHD Mortality and Cardiovascular Events

In patients at high risk of coronary events because of existing coronary heart disease, diabetes, peripheral vessel disease, history of stroke or other cerebrovascular disease, ZOCOR is indicated to:

· Reduce the risk of total mortality by reducing CHD deaths.

· Reduce the risk of non-fatal myocardial infarction and stroke.

· Reduce the need for coronary and non-coronary revascularization procedures.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/18/04 13:46:15

low dose naltrexone

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to list..(Celebrex).

I am currently taking 80 mg of Zocor every night forprgressive MS, and my neuro has just prescribed LDN. Does anyone know of a problem taking both of thesedrugs?Barb--- Reg Kreil <regkreil@...> wrote:> If you believe what Dr.Mercola says then you> wouldn't have celebrex in your> system at all.> Reg. > > -------Original Message-------> > From: low dose naltrexone > Date: 10/18/04 10:27:38> low dose naltrexone > Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to> list..(Celebrex).> > I recently started using Celebrex (cox2 inhibitor)> and it does wonders for> the pain in my legs and also seems to have relieves> the stiffness somewhat.> > B.> > Original Message:> -----------------> From: petessweetheart petessweetheart@...> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:50:50 -0000> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Question for to> add to list...> > > > <html><body>> > > <tt>> > Hi, . I really hate to pile anything else on> you, and you > might already know the answer, but it's one worth> asking if you > don't. Alot of people give conflicting answers as> to what you can > do for pain medications while taking LDN. Has this> question ever > been posed directly to Dr. Bihari? I would think> that of all the > diseases he is using to treat with LDN, many of them> would still > require pain meds other than tylenol or OTC> medications. Would it > be too much trouble for you to ask him, or if the> answer is already > posted here somewhere, to let me know? My son> doesn't have any > pain, but he is so active now that he is on LDN that> I keep > wondering about this "just in case". None of our> local docs know > beans about LDN, so I can't get my answer there. > Thanks for your > help in advance! > > Kim > > > > </tt>> > > > > > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC>> <td align=center> color=#003399>> Sponsor</td>> </tr>> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF>> <td align=center width=470><table border=0> cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0>> <tr> <td align=center> size=-2>ADVERTISEMENT <a>href="http://us.ard./SIG=12cjsbh3n/M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176>/D=grphealth/S=1705118787:HM/EXP=1098201105/A=2372354/R=0/SIG=12id813k2/*htt>ps://www.orchardbank.com/hcs/hcsapplication?pf=PLApply & media=EMYHNL40F21004S> S" alt=""><img>src="http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ho/household/f2_free2_300x250_def_0> 904.gif" alt="click here" width="300" height="250"> border="0"></a></td></tr></table> </td>> </tr>> <tr><td><img alt="" width=1 height=1>src="http://us.adserver./l?M=315388.5500238.6578046.3001176/D=grphe> alth/S=:HM/A=2372354/rand=627241088"></td></tr>> </table>> > > > > > > > > <tt><hr width="500">>

October 19, 2004

I am just now taking Actos which is a drug for us type two diabetics so that we can better use the insulin we make ,last I read it slows down the amount of attacks in RRMS,and there was some study being done on that. It wasn,t hard to get my Dr. to give me prescription even if I am SPMS . but is it ever expensive!

I would not like to find out the retail cost in the States.

Reg.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/18/04 18:11:21

low dose naltrexone

Subject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] answer to add to list..(Celebrex).

There is evidence in the literature that high dose

statins (cholesterol lowering drugs) decreases flares

and might actually reverse MS damage (MRI's show

IMPROVEMENT).) You must take a higher dose than that

generally given for cholesterol problems. You also

must follow the liver enzymes closely as there is the

risk of hepatotoxicity. I don't think it has been

100% proven for humans, but the rats are doing

great!Look it up on the internet!

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