Re: Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

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If you are taking LDN, then you must be getting it filled by a compounding pharmacist. Also, 4.5mg of Naltrexone (or less) is such a small measurement that it has to have a filler mixed with it in order to fill the capsule. Fillers are lactose, corn starch, Avicel, or acidophilous. Some get calcium, but lately there has been reason to not use this one.

Marcie

PS - Good luck. Keep your chin up!

In a message dated 10/17/2004 3:51:18 PM Central Daylight Time, manchester_terrier@... writes:

What do you mean by filler and compounder? I am just taking a pill filled with naltrexone! Am I in trouble?

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If you did your home work then you are fine

This pill is made by a compounding pharmacist that has read the info at the site below.by using pure naltrexone powder,or grinding up Revia to put just 4.5 mgs, which is miniscule, into it.

Now by home work I mean the compounder must use a fast release filler like Acidophilus or Calcium carbonate that isn't packed to tight into the pill. You will have to do a lot of reading of past posts if you want to get it all, or go to www.low dose naltrexone.org and read that.

I hope he has built it before with good results.

I am sorry I couldn't reply faster but my phone line to my ISP must be tied up again.

Reg.

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/17/04 14:51:54

low dose naltrexone

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

--- What do you mean by filler and compounder? I am just taking a pill filled with naltrexone! Am I in trouble?In low dose naltrexone , "Reg Kreil" <regkreil@h...> wrote:> Good for you> I will bet you that if you had stayed on Avonex you would never get away> from the antidepressants.> So what filler and what compounder are you using? > Don't be scared as this can't hurt but maybe it will help!> Reg > > -------Original Message-------> > From: low dose naltrexone > Date: 10/17/04 14:28:45> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Just Started LDN Last Night> > > I began taking 4.5 mg LDN last night. I have had MS for 27 years and > nothing else worked so I decided to try this. I am hopeful, but also > scared - it seems like my last chance. I am already depressed so I > already am on an antidepressant called mirtazapine which I take > nightly. I also have insomnia so I take Ambien at night. Then the > LDN. I also have anxiety and take 1 mg Ativan during the day. > Reading this to myself, I am realy messed up! Can anyone tell me > what I can and cannot ecpect being on LDN. My primary care physician > just gave me the script because I continually pestered him - he never > heard of LDN. My neurologist would not talk of it at all - he wants > me on a CARB. I was on Avonex, but stopped.> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Is there something wrong with people with MS taking Coral Calcium?? Or

is it just calcium chloride in the LDN??

Kathy

On 17-Oct-04, at 3:48 PM, Reg Kreil wrote:

> If you did your home work then you are fine

> This pill is made by a compounding pharmacist that has read the info

> at the site below.by  using pure naltrexone powder,or grinding up

> Revia to put just 4.5 mgs, which is miniscule, into it.

> Now by home work I mean the compounder must use a fast release filler

> like Acidophilus or Calcium carbonate that isn't packed to tight into

> the pill. You will have to do a lot of reading of past posts if you

> want to get it all, or go to www.low dose naltrexone.org and read that.

> I hope he has built it before with good results.

> I am sorry I couldn't reply faster but my phone line to my ISP must be

> tied up again.

> Reg.  

>  

> -------Original Message-------

>  

> From: low dose naltrexone

> Date: 10/17/04 14:51:54

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

>  

>

> --- What do you mean by filler and compounder?  I am just taking a

> pill filled with naltrexone!  Am I in trouble?

>

>

>

> In low dose naltrexone , " Reg Kreil " <regkreil@h...>

> wrote:

> > Good for you

> > I will bet you  that if you had stayed on Avonex you would never

> get away

> > from the antidepressants.

> > So what filler and what compounder are you using?

> > Don't be scared as this can't hurt but maybe it will help!

> > Reg

> > 

> > -------Original Message-------

> > 

> > From: low dose naltrexone

> > Date: 10/17/04 14:28:45

> > low dose naltrexone

> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Just Started LDN Last Night

> > 

> >

> > I began taking 4.5 mg LDN last night.  I have had MS for 27 years

> and

> > nothing else worked so I decided to try this.  I am hopeful, but

> also

>  

>

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I may be wrong, but I think the form of calcium filler used in some of my LDN was calcium carbonate, not calcium chloride. Maybe they are the same, but I don't know. Possibly Wayne from The Rx Ctr will see this and respond. Just to be on the safe side, I just received a refill from him using Avicel as the filler. I'll start it tonight. I do need to brag on the efficient service that I have had using this pharmacy. I ordered the refill on the 14th and received it today, the 18th. From WI to TX, that's not too shabby!

Marcie

In a message dated 10/18/2004 2:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, regkreil@... writes:

There is absolutly nothing wrong with it it is just that it could be packed

too tight into a capsule which then makes it a delayed release formulation

(or so we are led to believe)

Now as far as calcium chloride and ldn use together I can't honestly answer

that and that is how I take or should I say took for months now my LDN.

Every night I took two large spoons of Calcium magnesium mix or pills and

water with my LDN. Maybe that is why it stopped working or not.......

I started out with my Cal.Mag in the morn. but then I found out that it

helped me sleep at night if I took it right before bed.

Reg

[Guest guest]

Wyne,

Thanks for the quick response. Is there a difference in calcium carbonate and calcium chloride? Someone had mentioned calcium chloride being used.

Marcie

In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:58:23 PM Central Daylight Time, rxcenter@... writes:

Marcie,

Calcium carbonate was the filler used previously. If people have a concern over this being packed too tightly to cause slow release, they could open the capsule and empty the contents into a spoonful of something. You could also gently squeeze the capsule causing some of the contained powder to go up into the cap of the capsule and thereby loosining the contents.

Our postal service did a great job this time. Sometimes WI to TX is very slow.

Regards,

Wayne Loveland

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[Guest guest]

There is absolutly nothing wrong with it it is just that it could be packed

too tight into a capsule which then makes it a delayed release formulation

(or so we are led to believe)

Now as far as calcium chloride and ldn use together I can't honestly answer

that and that is how I take or should I say took for months now my LDN.

Every night I took two large spoons of Calcium magnesium mix or pills and

water with my LDN.

Maybe that is why it stopped working or not.......

I started out with my Cal.Mag in the morn. but then I found out that it

helped me sleep at night if I took it right before bed.

Reg.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/17/04 17:07:25

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Is there something wrong with people with MS taking Coral Calcium?? Or

is it just calcium chloride in the LDN??

Kathy

On 17-Oct-04, at 3:48 PM, Reg Kreil wrote:

> If you did your home work then you are fine

> This pill is made by a compounding pharmacist that has read the info

> at the site below.by using pure naltrexone powder,or grinding up

> Revia to put just 4.5 mgs, which is miniscule, into it.

> Now by home work I mean the compounder must use a fast release filler

> like Acidophilus or Calcium carbonate that isn't packed to tight into

> the pill. You will have to do a lot of reading of past posts if you

> want to get it all, or go to www.low dose naltrexone.org and read that.

> I hope he has built it before with good results.

> I am sorry I couldn't reply faster but my phone line to my ISP must be

> tied up again.

> Reg.

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: low dose naltrexone

> Date: 10/17/04 14:51:54

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

>

>

> --- What do you mean by filler and compounder? I am just taking a

> pill filled with naltrexone! Am I in trouble?

>

>

>

> In low dose naltrexone , " Reg Kreil " <regkreil@h...>

> wrote:

> > Good for you

> > I will bet you that if you had stayed on Avonex you would never

> get away

> > from the antidepressants.

> > So what filler and what compounder are you using?

> > Don't be scared as this can't hurt but maybe it will help!

> > Reg

> >

> > -------Original Message-------

> >

> > From: low dose naltrexone

> > Date: 10/17/04 14:28:45

> > low dose naltrexone

> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Just Started LDN Last Night

> >

> >

> > I began taking 4.5 mg LDN last night. I have had MS for 27 years

> and

> > nothing else worked so I decided to try this. I am hopeful, but

> also

>

>

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>

>

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Marcie,

Calcium carbonate was the filler used previously. If people have a concern over this being packed too tightly to cause slow release, they could open the capsule and empty the contents into a spoonful of something. You could also gently squeeze the capsule causing some of the contained powder to go up into the cap of the capsule and thereby loosining the contents.

Our postal service did a great job this time. Sometimes WI to TX is very slow.

Regards,

Wayne Loveland

----- Original Message -----

From: marciemjm@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 3:20 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

I may be wrong, but I think the form of calcium filler used in some of my LDN was calcium carbonate, not calcium chloride. Maybe they are the same, but I don't know. Possibly Wayne from The Rx Ctr will see this and respond. Just to be on the safe side, I just received a refill from him using Avicel as the filler. I'll start it tonight. I do need to brag on the efficient service that I have had using this pharmacy. I ordered the refill on the 14th and received it today, the 18th. From WI to TX, that's not too shabby! Marcie In a message dated 10/18/2004 2:23:56 PM Central Daylight Time, regkreil@... writes:

There is absolutly nothing wrong with it it is just that it could be packed too tight into a capsule which then makes it a delayed release formulation (or so we are led to believe) Now as far as calcium chloride and ldn use together I can't honestly answer that and that is how I take or should I say took for months now my LDN. Every night I took two large spoons of Calcium magnesium mix or pills and water with my LDN. Maybe that is why it stopped working or not....... I started out with my Cal.Mag in the morn. but then I found out that it helped me sleep at night if I took it right before bed. Reg

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Marcie,

Yes, there is a difference. One would not use calcium chloride.

Wayne

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From: marciemjm@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:09 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Wyne, Thanks for the quick response. Is there a difference in calcium carbonate and calcium chloride? Someone had mentioned calcium chloride being used. Marcie In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:58:23 PM Central Daylight Time, rxcenter@... writes:

Marcie, Calcium carbonate was the filler used previously. If people have a concern over this being packed too tightly to cause slow release, they could open the capsule and empty the contents into a spoonful of something. You could also gently squeeze the capsule causing some of the contained powder to go up into the cap of the capsule and thereby loosining the contents. Our postal service did a great job this time. Sometimes WI to TX is very slow. Regards, Wayne Loveland

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Your right Calcium carbonate is the stuff fillers are made of I missed that.

Reg.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/18/04 14:22:11

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

I may be wrong, but I think the form of calcium filler used in some of my LDN was calcium carbonate, not calcium chloride. Maybe they are the same, but I don't know. Possibly Wayne from The Rx Ctr will see this and respond. Just to be on the safe side, I just received a refill from him using Avicel as the filler. I'll start it tonight. I do need to brag on the efficient service that I have had using this pharmacy. I ordered the refill on the 14th and received it today, the 18th. From WI to TX, that's not too shabby! Marcie

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Isn't calcium chloride the stuff used in tractor tires to incresae wieght. I accidentally ingested some once and was that caustic.

Reg.

-------Original Message-------

From: low dose naltrexone

Date: 10/18/04 16:12:45

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Marcie,

Yes, there is a difference. One would not use calcium chloride.

Wayne

----- Original Message -----

From: marciemjm@...

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 5:09 PM

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Wyne, Thanks for the quick response. Is there a difference in calcium carbonate and calcium chloride? Someone had mentioned calcium chloride being used. Marcie In a message dated 10/18/2004 4:58:23 PM Central Daylight Time, rxcenter@... writes:

Marcie, Calcium carbonate was the filler used previously. If people have a concern over this being packed too tightly to cause slow release, they could open the capsule and empty the contents into a spoonful of something. You could also gently squeeze the capsule causing some of the contained powder to go up into the cap of the capsule and thereby loosining the contents. Our postal service did a great job this time. Sometimes WI to TX is very slow. Regards, Wayne Loveland

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One can also use calcium chloride to make concrete set up with out freezing

in the winter time.

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From: LarryGC larrygc@...

Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:20:30 -0400

low dose naltrexone

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

I thought it was that white stuff you throw down in ice instead of rock

salt?

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From: Reg Kreil

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 19:25

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Isn't calcium chloride the stuff used in tractor tires to

incresae wieght. I accidentally ingested some once and was that caustic.

Reg.

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I thought it was that white stuff you throw down in ice instead of rock salt?

----- Original Message -----

From: Reg Kreil

low dose naltrexone

Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 19:25

Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Just Started LDN Last Night

Isn't calcium chloride the stuff used in tractor tires to incresae wieght. I accidentally ingested some once and was that caustic.

Reg.

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