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I find that amazing. Iodine as the chelating agent. I wonder what kind

of mercury levels you have in your urine normally? My bio dentist said

a test before and after the chelator tells a lot about your ability to

excrete mercury.

G/MI

The toxic metals test is taken from the same 24 hr collection of urine that is used for the iodine and bromide loading tests ... The 50mg of iodine taken right before beginning the 24 hr collection is considered the provocation for the toxic metals ...Yep, I'm still in shock!Marlena>> HI Marlena, was the mercury test Dr Flechas gave you a urine test? Did> you take any type of chelator as a part of this test? I would be shocked> as well, seeing as you never had amalgams. Just goes to show we get> mercury from many sources.> > G/MI> > > Dr Flechas offers a toxic metals test along with the iodine and bromide> loading tests ... The toxic metal results take a lot longer - I finally> got them back today, and right now I am in shock. The reference range> for Mercury is 2.19 and my Mercury was 47.47!> In the past I have done hair tests for toxic metals and my mercury was> never elevated. I have never had amalgams either, but in the past before> I knew better I ate plenty of fish. Also my mother used to have amalgams> and did when she was pregnant with me and nursing me and I've heard that> we can get a lot of mercury passed on that way ... And of course much> Mercury is simply unavoidable from the environment ...> I read that iodine mobilized mercury out, but this is really amazing to> me. I just did not expect it. I suppose it's good because it shows the> mercury coming out - better out than in! But I'm concerned because I> haven't been doing other mercury clean up along with the iodine, which> could be 1 explanation for why I still feel pretty bad on most days. At> least I've been taking vitamin C, the other supporting nutrients,> probiotics, and general detox stuff like UltraClear but now I will start> chlorella asap ... and I'm thinking about MS

M too. Any other ideas? I'm> not sure if I should do another strong chelating agent ...> Fortunately I was able to get my consultation with Dr Flechas for this> Thursday. I'll report about what he says. There were some other concerns> from my results - like my urine creatinine is too low and I also have> high Thalliam and Tungsten, but not nearly as high as the Mercury. Does> anyone know what I should do to raise my creatinine?> Thanks,Marlena>

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I think it depends on what your life has been like.

Steph

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>I find that amazing. Iodine as the chelating agent. I wonder what kind

> of mercury levels you have in your urine normally? My bio dentist said

> a test before and after the chelator tells a lot about your ability to

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In what ways?

G/MI

I think it depends on what your life has been like.

Steph

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>I find that amazing. Iodine as the chelating agent. I wonder what kind

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Sorry. This is in reply to your comment 'it depends what our life has

been like' in response to chelators used after a baseline urine test to

see mercury excretion before and after.

G/MI

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If you ate fish, lived near the ocean, had amalgams, etc. Your exposure in

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Steph

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> Sorry. This is in reply to your comment 'it depends what our life has

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Your ALA looks fine. You can go up to 400 mcg of selenium w/o a problem. I find that the selenomethyonine works best for me as it is already in the reduced / methylated form.

Steph

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Thanks for your reply, Steph. I am taking 235mcg of selenium. Do you think I should double that? Also there are 50mg of R-Lipoic Acid in my Thorne detox multi and 25mg of Alpha Lipoic Acid in the Living Fuel supplement food I am currently taking. Do you think that is enough or should I add extra? I'll look into the Chloroclear too.

Thanks,

Marlena

>> Very interesting. Dr. A, B & F have seen these halides increase in output with iodine. Are you taking Selenium? How about Alpha Lipoic Acid. Both are great for binding to mercury. I took a Metagenics product that really helped me when chelating and we would do the DMPS Challenge tests (Yes I know some of you don't like this but I chose to do it). It was called Chloroclear. I would recommend it.> > Steph

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Could you please quote some of the message you are replying to. It is

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Thank you - yes I am finding that too.

Steph

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My apologies! I thought by 'replying with original' the previous post

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Thank you - yes I am finding that too.

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They come as attachments you have to open.

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Iodine is not a chelator. Mercury sits on the receptors that pull in iodine

when you are toxic in mercury and low in iodine. When you supply iodine in

larger amounts it knocks the mercury off the receptors. However, iodine

does not bind with the mercury and carry it out. That's what a chelator

does.

Steph

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> charge when in reduced form: Hg2+ and I2+. I think they COMPETE with

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> I've personally decided to rest from 50mg of iodine for a few days at

> a time, and just take 12.5 mg during those days. I think maybe that

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The problem I have with this product is that it is sold through an MLM and

is pretty high priced. There is also no real studies that prove it chelates

the toxins. So buyer beware. I have tried it with limited results. Not

sure how strong it really is if you are very sick.

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> I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this forum but I have been taking

> a product called NCD...it is an acronym for Natural Cellular Defense and

> is made of zeolites from volcanic rock....it is a natural chelator that is

> non offensive to the rest of your body...it acts like a small cage and

> whisks out the mercury and other stuff that doesn't belong there....you

> can get alot of information from on her website called

> significant healing.com...........she will also answer all questions and

> is quite informative.....I hope this helps...........

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CEC:

The powder works better than the liquid.

Duke Dallas - Texas

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iodine From: cecsmith1@...Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 06:38:42 -0700Subject: Re: toxic metals test results

I'm not sure if this is appropriate for this forum but I have been taking a product called NCD...it is an acronym for Natural Cellular Defense and is made of zeolites from volcanic rock....it is a natural chelator that is non offensive to the rest of your body...it acts like a small cage and whisks out the mercury and other stuff that doesn't belong there....you can get alot of information from on her website called significant healing.com...........she will also answer all questions and is quite informative.....I hope this helps........... See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. See Now