Re: ASI & Candida test results

[Guest guest]

The adrenal questionnaire just gives you an idea sue, it is not a

diagnostic tool at all.

I would guess that Dr Peatfield meant h.c when he said 'full adrenal'

support as NAE will not cut the ice with results like that.

You can order it from www.internationalpharmacy.com, there are two

types - the more expensive Cortef and Westward which is the one I

take.

You may want to check with Dr P about how he would like you to ramp

it up.

Mo

>

> Hi everyone

>  

> Here are the full results

>  

> Candida IgG - Negative 1.0 U/mL Normal range <10 U/mL

> Candida IgA - Positive 21.7 U/mL Normal range <10 U/mL

>  

> Dr P has advised to start the protocol which I have done and I can

tell it is working as I don't feel so bloated, but have been to the

loo far more than usual - beats being constipated though!

>  

> Cortisol

> 8am     3.9 range 12-22 nmol/L

> Noon   1.2 range 5.0-9.0 "

> 4pm     1.1 range 3.0-7.0 "

> Night    0.3 range 1.0-3.0 "

>  

> The graph from Genova shows a virtually flat line right at the

bottom:(

>  

> DHEA

> am 0.55 range 0.30-1.00 nmol/L

> pm 0.56 ditto

>  

> DHEA Cortisol ratio 8.54 range 1.0-4.0 nmol/L

>  

> Dr P has written - a very marked level of adrenal exhaustion and

you need full adrenal support as we planned.  I am taking 4 NAX and

just about to increase to 5.  I don't recall him mentioning HC and

he hasn't written it down on any of my docs that I can find.

>  

> I was quite shocked to see it was so low as on the adrenal

questionnaire it came out as moderately low.  Perhaps I dropped

again between then and the saliva tests?

>  

> Any advice greatly appreciated.

>  

> Sue x

>

[Guest guest]

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> I would guess that Dr Peatfield meant h.c when he said 'full adrenal'

> support as NAE will not cut the ice with results like that.

Hi Mo

I rather thought that would be the case. I'm going to telephone

tomorrow and ask his advice as to what dose and how to ramp up. I only

got the results yesterday and didn't have a proper look at them last

night.

Can you still take NAE with HC?

BTW you must have a will of iron to keep on with the anti candida diet

I so envy you, I'm really struggling and its only day 3!

Sue x

[Guest guest]

..

> I would guess that Dr Peatfield meant h.c when he said 'full adrenal'

> support as NAE will not cut the ice with results like that.

Hi Mo

I rather thought that would be the case. I'm going to telephone

tomorrow and ask his advice as to what dose and how to ramp up. I only

got the results yesterday and didn't have a proper look at them last

night.

Can you still take NAE with HC?

BTW you must have a will of iron to keep on with the anti candida diet

I so envy you, I'm really struggling and its only day 3!

Sue x

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

I did the test for Candida with the glass and water which came back

positive. This is the fourth week of Candida diet and I have noticed

no bloating, I seem to have lost about three inches off my waist

which is good also. I also took the Flucanozole.

When I got my ASI results back from Dr P he said adrenal fatigue is

definitly evident and full support is needed. I have popped my

results next to yours, also a flat line!. Now he did mention HC when

I had my first appointment with him, so I have ordered some and left

him a message a week ago last Tuesday I think; but have heard

nothing. I know he was in Aberdeen the week I left the message. I

will try calling the office tommorow to make a telephone appointment.

When I posted my results on here and asked if people thought this

would require action with HC a couple of people mentioned that it may

be wise to order some.

Just dog tired, working full time uses up most of my energy and not

sleeping very well at all. You must be quite tired hon?

I am on 2 NAX, when I tried to increase it gave me the runs. Also on

various other stuff which I can post if you like.

What are you taking for your thyroid?

Love Ali xxx

Sue <morgansue@...> wrote:

>

> Hi everyone

>  

> Here are the full results

>  

> Candida IgG - Negative 1.0 U/mL Normal range <10 U/mL

> Candida IgA - Positive 21.7 U/mL Normal range <10 U/mL

>  

> Dr P has advised to start the protocol which I have done and I can

tell it is working as I don't feel so bloated, but have been to the

loo far more than usual - beats being constipated though!

>  

> Cortisol

> 8am     3.9 range 12-22 nmol/L (MINE WAS 2.7)

> Noon   1.2 range 5.0-9.0 " (MINE WAS 2.5)

> 4pm     1.1 range 3.0-7.0 " (MINE WAS 0.5)

> Night    0.3 range 1.0-3.0 " (MINE WAS 0.4)

>  

> The graph from Genova shows a virtually flat line right at the

bottom:(

>  

> DHEA

> am 0.55 range 0.30-1.00 nmol/L

> pm 0.56 ditto

>  

> DHEA Cortisol ratio 8.54 range 1.0-4.0 nmol/L

>  

> Dr P has written - a very marked level of adrenal exhaustion and

you need full adrenal support as we planned.  I am taking 4 NAX and

just about to increase to 5.  I don't recall him mentioning HC and

he hasn't written it down on any of my docs that I can find.

>  

> I was quite shocked to see it was so low as on the adrenal

questionnaire it came out as moderately low.  Perhaps I dropped

again between then and the saliva tests?

>  

> Any advice greatly appreciated.

>  

> Sue x

>

[Guest guest]

Dr P suggested I take NAE along with my h.c as the NAE help to

rebuild the adrenal glands he said, I would ask him about this if you

feel you would like to take both.

Will of iron I do not have girl...... for sure......

I have had several attempts at the candida thing and this is the only

time I have been successful. I suppose because I have learned from my

other failures (about 4) and, more importantly, got bottomed out, had

got to a position where I could not optimise my thyroid and adrenals

hormones with seriously addressing the candida to see if this was

what was blocking my progress.

I had nowhere else to go in other words Sue, it was not a question of

willpower, more a question of desperation which forced me to 'submit'

to doing the thing properly.

As I said, I did arm myself with helpers in the forms of glutamine

and what's the other one, chromium. 200 mg x 2 a day for the chromium

and some glutamine powder in a glass of water between meals.

Really important I found to eat a protein-based breakfast within an

hour of rising and then to eat regularly, every three hours is ideal

throughout the day. Grazing rather than three meals a day kind of

thing.

And make every snack a protein snack. I mean have some protein in it

and stay away from carb only meals/snacks. Stay away from refined

anything.

I found Sesame Ryvita and Oatcakes a good substitute for bread.

I bought protein powder which I mix in with natural live yogurt and a

spoonful of oatflakes for brekkie. Bacon and egg is good if you are

not veggie, cheese on Ryvita/Oatcakes, nuts, seeds make good snacks.

Almond butter is brilliant or anything with good fats which will help

keep your blood sugar steady and so avert cravings.

When the sugar cravings got too much, I bought Xylitol and made

pancakes with lemon and that really helped but that has passed now.

But remember the caution to keep Xylitol away from animals if you

have any!

What are you finding most difficult right now Sue?

Mo

> > I would guess that Dr Peatfield meant h.c when he said 'full

adrenal'

> > support as NAE will not cut the ice with results like that.

>

> Hi Mo

>

> I rather thought that would be the case. I'm going to telephone

> tomorrow and ask his advice as to what dose and how to ramp up. I

only

> got the results yesterday and didn't have a proper look at them

last

> night.

>

> Can you still take NAE with HC?

>

> BTW you must have a will of iron to keep on with the anti candida

diet

> I so envy you, I'm really struggling and its only day 3!

>

> Sue x

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo

chromium. 200 mg x 2 a day for the chromium

should read ~ chromium. 200 mcg x 2 a day for the chromium

micrograms (mcg) not milligrams (mg) ~ ask Boots ?

Bob

>

> Dr P suggested I take NAE along with my h.c as the NAE help to

> rebuild the adrenal glands he said, I would ask him about this if

you

> feel you would like to take both.

> Will of iron I do not have girl...... for sure......

> I have had several attempts at the candida thing and this is the

only

> time I have been successful. I suppose because I have learned from

my

> other failures (about 4) and, more importantly, got bottomed out,

had

> got to a position where I could not optimise my thyroid and

adrenals

> hormones with seriously addressing the candida to see if this was

> what was blocking my progress.

> I had nowhere else to go in other words Sue, it was not a question

of

> willpower, more a question of desperation which forced me

to 'submit'

> to doing the thing properly.

> As I said, I did arm myself with helpers in the forms of glutamine

> and what's the other one, chromium. 200 mg x 2 a day for the

chromium

[Guest guest]

Opps, sorry about that and thanks Bob for coming to the rescue! Mo

>

> Hi Mo

>

> chromium. 200 mg x 2 a day for the chromium

> should read ~ chromium. 200 mcg x 2 a day for the chromium

>

> micrograms (mcg) not milligrams (mg) ~ ask Boots ?

>

> Bob

>

>

> >

> > Dr P suggested I take NAE along with my h.c as the NAE help to

> > rebuild the adrenal glands he said, I would ask him about this if

> you

> > feel you would like to take both.

> > Will of iron I do not have girl...... for sure......

> > I have had several attempts at the candida thing and this is the

> only

> > time I have been successful. I suppose because I have learned

from

> my

> > other failures (about 4) and, more importantly, got bottomed out,

> had

> > got to a position where I could not optimise my thyroid and

> adrenals

> > hormones with seriously addressing the candida to see if this was

> > what was blocking my progress.

> > I had nowhere else to go in other words Sue, it was not a

question

> of

> > willpower, more a question of desperation which forced me

> to 'submit'

> > to doing the thing properly.

> > As I said, I did arm myself with helpers in the forms of

glutamine

> > and what's the other one, chromium. 200 mg x 2 a day for the

> chromium

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali

Dog tired sums it up! I work full time too, and I think that my body

clock is completely out of whack as I can barely function of a morning

to get to work. I never feel able to eat breakfast before I leave home

as my body is not awake enough to handle it and I know I should. I

usually try to eat something light but like Mo said I could probably do

with something more sustaining with protein but at that time I can't

even think about food. Thats assuming I've managed to drag myself out of

bed early enough!

I sleep OK most nights just that it never seems long enough or properly

refreshing. I find it worse at this time of year when its so dark in the

morning, its like getting up in the middle of the night isn't it?

I've just increased to 5 NAX and 2 Nutri Thyroid that's all for my

thyroid at the moment as Dr P wants to sort out my adrenals first. Nax

doesn't give me the runs but it makes my pee glow just like Peckham

Spring Water!

My sense of humour just about keeping me going and my hubby is great

bless him, he cleans, washes, irons etc to save me the effort cos he

knows how knackered I am. And he's a great cook.

Sue x

> Just dog tired, working full time uses up most of my energy and not

> sleeping very well at all. You must be quite tired hon?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

It does help to try to get to bed by 10 and up by 6 am that first

morning light is really important, also to eat something with protein

by 7 - 8am, a tough routine I know! On Candida diet at the mo; but am

going to follow dietary advice to support adrenal fatigue.

It was about a month ago that I last slept okay and woke up feeling

refreshed and not like I had a hangover! yes it is like getting up in

the middle of the night and I think the clocks changing did not help

my body clock!

My pee has been bright yellow because of the NAX I think!

Yeah trying to keep chin up myself too, although its quite a

challenge sometimes. I am quite lucky as my hubby has been really

great since I have been ill, he has a great sense of humour and is a

good cook, don't know about the cleaning! It may sound silly but we

(DH, daughter and I) have a rota for cleaning, cooking, washing up

which works ok most of the time.

Take care,

Ali xx

<morgansue@...> wrote:

>

> Hi Ali

>

> Dog tired sums it up! I work full time too, and I think that my body

> clock is completely out of whack as I can barely function of a

morning

> to get to work. I never feel able to eat breakfast before I leave

home

> as my body is not awake enough to handle it and I know I should. I

> usually try to eat something light but like Mo said I could

probably do

> with something more sustaining with protein but at that time I can't

> even think about food. Thats assuming I've managed to drag myself

out of

> bed early enough!

>

> I sleep OK most nights just that it never seems long enough or

properly

> refreshing. I find it worse at this time of year when its so dark

in the

> morning, its like getting up in the middle of the night isn't it?

>

> I've just increased to 5 NAX and 2 Nutri Thyroid that's all for my

> thyroid at the moment as Dr P wants to sort out my adrenals first.

Nax

> doesn't give me the runs but it makes my pee glow just like Peckham

> Spring Water!

>

> My sense of humour just about keeping me going and my hubby is great

> bless him, he cleans, washes, irons etc to save me the effort cos he

> knows how knackered I am. And he's a great cook.

>

> Sue x

[Guest guest]

Sue ~ a protein powder milkshake might work well for you if you

cannot tolerate solid food first thing and it would make a difference

to your energy levels and cravings for the rest of the day.

Important to have within an hour of rising, here is where I get mine

from

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-supplies/unflavoured-protein/impact-

whey-protein-(unflavoured)-(pouch)/

This is the unflavoured sort.

Mo

>

> Dog tired sums it up! I work full time too, and I think that my body

> clock is completely out of whack as I can barely function of a

morning

> to get to work. I never feel able to eat breakfast before I leave

home

> as my body is not awake enough to handle it and I know I should. I

> usually try to eat something light but like Mo said I could

probably do

> with something more sustaining with protein but at that time I can't

> even think about food. Thats assuming I've managed to drag myself

out of

> bed early enough!

>

> I sleep OK most nights just that it never seems long enough or

properly

> refreshing. I find it worse at this time of year when its so dark

in the

> morning, its like getting up in the middle of the night isn't it?

>

> I've just increased to 5 NAX and 2 Nutri Thyroid that's all for my

> thyroid at the moment as Dr P wants to sort out my adrenals first.

Nax

> doesn't give me the runs but it makes my pee glow just like Peckham

> Spring Water!

>

> My sense of humour just about keeping me going and my hubby is great

> bless him, he cleans, washes, irons etc to save me the effort cos he

> knows how knackered I am. And he's a great cook.

>

> Sue x

>

>

>

> > Just dog tired, working full time uses up most of my energy and

not

> > sleeping very well at all. You must be quite tired hon?

>

>

> [Edit Abbrev Mod]

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

NAX does make your wee bright yellow, bit of a shock when you first see it isnt it?!

I was told its the B Vits in it and its nothing to worry about. Good idea about the rota! Me and my other half do most stuff around the house and I do have 2 teenage daughter here!

Hi Sue,It does help to try to get to bed by 10 and up by 6 am that first morning light is really important, also to eat something with protein by 7 - 8am, a tough routine I know! On Candida diet at the mo; but am going to follow dietary advice to support adrenal fatigue.Take care,Ali xx<morgansue@. ..> wrote:>> Hi Ali> > Dog tired sums it up! I work full time too, and I think that my body> clock is completely out of whack as I can barely function of a morning> to get to work. I never feel able to eat breakfast before I leave home> as my body is not awake enough to handle it and I know I should. I> usually try to eat something light but like Mo said I could probably do> with something more sustaining with protein but at that time I can't> even think about food. Thats assuming I've managed to drag myself out

of> bed early enough!> > I sleep OK most nights just that it never seems long enough or properly> refreshing. I find it worse at this time of year when its so dark in the> morning, its like getting up in the middle of the night isn't it?> > I've just increased to 5 NAX and 2 Nutri Thyroid that's all for my> thyroid at the moment as Dr P wants to sort out my adrenals first. Nax> doesn't give me the runs but it makes my pee glow just like Peckham> Spring Water!> > My sense of humour just about keeping me going and my hubby is great> bless him, he cleans, washes, irons etc to save me the effort cos he> knows how knackered I am. And he's a great cook.> > Sue x