Re: Cortisol, cortisol, cortisol

[Guest guest]

Maybe not all endos. When I saw the new one the other day he has arranged for a morning cortisol blood test, although nobody has told me whether it should be any particular time of the morning.

At least he is thinking a bit on those lines.

I am sure I have read somewhere that the adrenals should be checked before treating the thyroid, as if it should be common practice.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

It

is written on the Patient Information Leaflet (PIL) that you should tell your

doctor if you have low adrenal reserve. Your doctor should NOT prescribe

thyroxine for you until your adrenals have been treated with steroids. However,

medical practitioners believe this ONLY to mean those patients who are

suffering 's disease. Had this been the case, surely on the PIL it would

have stated " Tell your doctor if you are suffering 's disease "

Your

morning cortisol blood test will likely show that your cortisol is within

range. You should be tested to see where your cortisol and DHEA are at four

specific times during the day because your cortisol and DHEA give out different

amounts throughout the day. Cortisol is highest in the morning and lowest at

night, and DHEA is the opposite, being lowest in the morning and highest at

night. Doing a blood test (unless you have 's disease) at only one time

during the morning is, in my view, a waste of time and will not give your

doctor the true facts of your adrenal status. You should have the 24 hour

salivary profile done.

Luv -

Sheila

Maybe

not all endos. When I saw the new one the other day he has

arranged for a morning cortisol blood test, although nobody has told me whether

it should be any particular time of the morning.

At

least he is thinking a bit on those lines.

I

am sure I have read somewhere that the adrenals should be checked before

treating the thyroid, as if it should be common practice.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

I tried getting the salivary test done with NPTech but using all the 'tricks' could still not produce enough saliva

So it really will not matter what time of the morning I have the blood test

Lilian

[Guest guest]

I found scraping my tongue on my lower front teeth (quite hard and a

bit painful) helped me make saliva.

Also I read somewhere that you can gather it over a few days, getting a

bit of saliva at each of the times in each of the tubes and saving the

tubes in the fridge or freezer. Then top them up at their respective

times until you have enough. The lab could probably confirm if that is

ok for them.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Why is it that my wonderful NHS endocrinologist discourages me from

campaigning to get medical practitioners to recognise the

thyroid/adrenal connection.

I know it's not scientific but cortisol has certainly done it for me

and I would defy any medical practitioner to say otherwise!

Pen x

[Guest guest]

Hi

Sheila,

You are right- otherwise why does it say that we should tell docs we have adrenal

problems as per the PIL on all thyroid meds. How do we know we have

adrenal problems unless this has been diagnosed by the doc? Most patients only

know they feel poorly and expect( quite rightly in an ideal world) the doc to

know if it is adrenal, thyroid or often both.

Stenning

Subject:

Cortisol, cortisol, cortisol

Why is it

that my wonderful NHS endocrinologist , who constantly encourages me to

campaign for T4/T3 combination therapy and especially for Armour Thyroid -

discourages me from campaigning to get medical practitioners to recognise the

thyroid/adrenal connection. I think more and more that this subject has to be

our next campaign and give them all (including the BTA Executive Committee) the

evidence that must make them re-think the thyroid/adrenal connection.

[Guest guest]

There

are two saliva glands just under your chin and if you place your forefinger and

thumb either side of your trachea you will feel them. You should just massage

these gently to produce saliva.

luv -

Sheila

I found scraping my tongue on my lower front teeth

(quite hard and a

bit painful) helped me make saliva.

Also I read somewhere that you can gather it over a few days, getting a

bit of saliva at each of the times in each of the tubes and saving the

tubes in the fridge or freezer. Then top them up at their respective

times until you have enough. The lab could probably confirm if that is

ok for them.

Jane

[Guest guest]

I

know Pen - I saw the miracle for myself last Friday - it was just wonderful to

see you looking and feeling so well - yes, even down to doing the little hop.

skip and jump.

Luv -

Sheila

Why is it that my wonderful NHS endocrinologist

discourages me from

campaigning to get medical practitioners to recognise the

thyroid/adrenal connection.

I know it's not scientific but cortisol has certainly done it for me

and I would defy any medical practitioner to say otherwise!

Pen x

[Guest guest]

...I know Pen - I saw the miracle for myself last Friday - it was just

wonderful to see you looking and feeling so well - yes, even down to

doing the little hop. skip and jump. ..

That so SO fantastic to hear YAYY wtg

x