Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I noticed when I was not converting and became toxic that I became jumpy. The noise of someone opening or closing the door made me jump. Maybe something similar is going on? Miriam > Anyway my main question is about my Armour rise... > I got up went to loo this morning and my lovely son (who is not ugly lol) frightened the life out of me he was in the hallway when I came out and I screamed and trembled in terror, woke the whole house up, totally shocked I was at my own reaction, so was he lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 > I noticed when I was not converting and became toxic that I became > jumpy. The noise of someone opening or closing the door made me jump. > Maybe something similar is going on? > Miriam Thanks Miriam, I suppose it is possible I have done something by going up. I certainly feel full of poisons today. I feel like death, like the life is draining from me, so weak can harly sit up. I feel nauseus but keep having to snack because my blood sugar feels low, it picks me up slightly when I do but I do ache and don't feel as jumpy now but just like I have flu or something. I know I haven't, it isn't exactly like a virus but you may know the feeling I am trying to get accross. Oh my goodness. For the last couple of weeks I was feeling quite good considering, compared to this I felt bloomin marvellous lol. lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 I have no idea why you have had such a 'toxic' effect Dawn but have you asked this question on the adrenal forum. They might be able to help you more than we can. I know little about adrenals really when it comes to something as complex as this. Sorry.Perhaps you should have increased your armour during the day, rather than night. Luv - Sheila Breaking out increasingly scabby on legs and arms especially. Have seen this on my friend with Gulf war syndrome. Wierd stuff. Even my scalp has little scabs in it. yukky. Wonder if there is any other reason hc can make you feel better other than a deficiency. I wonder how much the armour makes my body use in all honesty. Sorry for the long post, how long do you think I should leave it till increasing again and what dose of hc would you recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 It occurs to me that the oineal g land is located where you are having that wierd sensation and I think this is where melatonin is prduced? Any connection do you think girl? Mo > > Wierd, I could have sworn I posted about this a few hours ago but it > hasn't come up, well I shall post it out of my journal. > I am also worried about something someone said on the other forum > about hormone pathways which Bob might be able to throw some light on, > I got this reply about my breast pain which is kinda out of the > thyroid treatment thing but... > ''when dealin with hormonal night mare one feeds into the other > because people do not understand how metabolic pathways are > associated. If one preson starts to manipulate one pathway with cortef > and is on progesterone then they can actually cause an increase in > estrogen. The only way to measure this is to have a 24 hour urine > metabolite test done to check the metabolic pathways to see which ones > are blocked. You may also have an imbalance in the 2/4, 16 hyroxy > estrones causing this imbalnace. Some times giving cortef will raise > dhea and estrogen indirectly. IF this pathway is not working properly > then it converts into the cancer forming estrogens (16,4) resulting in > estrogen domaint like symptoms. I see this commonly in our HRT clinic > all the time people self medicating with out getting proper > evaluations done (saliva, urine, blood )for hormones. WE check all 3 > because oen does not tell method does not tell the whole story,,,Plus > we take PPO insurance as well.'' > > Anyway my main question is about my Armour rise... > OM goodness, what a horrible night last night. > I took my overnight Armour dose, ended up having to stress dose with > hc after a couple of hours, the neck pains, the wierd head with the > pressure, the pains in the joints, the wierd head couldnt think > properly at all. Had to eat as blood sugar plummeted like a stone or > thats what it felt like anyway and the nausea and gas in the stomach > was awful. Why do I feel so rotton on a raise of armour? Is it my hc > dose? I thought 30mg was quite a high dose. I got up went to loo this > morning and my lovely son (who is not ugly lol) frightened the life > out of me he was in the hallway when I came out and I screamed and > trembled in terror, woke the whole house up, totally shocked I was at > my own reaction, so was he lol. But seriously it aint funny, so feeble > I was, so timid and obvioulsy slightly delutional. > Will drop back to 2 1/2 for a day and then try upping by 1/4 instead > of 1/2. My temp is back at 36.0 c this morning and that is over an > hour after rising, I am also sleepy on and off. I may need to lay down > soon. > The one thing that does have me really confuddled is that feeling of > someone gently pressing on the bridge of my nose and centre of my > forehead when I am low in cortisol, that is really wierd. > Anyway the neck is still a bit iffy today and don't feel overly well > even though I am much improved...zzzzzzzzzzzz but :sleepy1: :sleepy1: > > Breaking out increasingly scabby on legs and arms especially. Have > seen this on my friend with Gulf war syndrome. Wierd stuff. Even my > scalp has little scabs in it. yukky. > > Wonder if there is any other reason hc can make you feel better other > than a deficiency. I wonder how much the armour makes my body use in > all honesty. > Sorry for the long post, how long do you think I should leave it till > increasing again and what dose of hc would you recommend? > > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 I have asked them Shiela. Val thinks I am hardly supported on the 30mg due to the state I got in when I did my washing etc and that I am only supported when doing nothing and also due to this happening. I am going to have to raise hc sigh. I was hoping you could give me some tips on the Armour. I did only take the nightime dose of 45mg and the rest during the day spread out. Last night I didn't dare take any am going to try and get back to my 1 grain at night and 1 1 /2 grain during the day split as I felt ok on that. Hope the adrenals are still in a fit state to take it still. When I don't take any at all at night I wake up with a thick head like I used to on levo. But this morning I was confused, disorientated and afraid, seems I am still a little toxic eh? This is not an easy thing to get right, I know that for sure. thanks for your help hon. lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Hi Dawn, You may remember recently I posted jubilantly about how great I was feeling, and I was sure I had " cracked it " , I then went on to get jittery etc.etc and felt a lot like you are saying you feel - achey fluey jumpy and generally unwell. Luckily for me I had an appointment already booked with Dr P and his opinion is that I am not converting so I am going to be trying much less armour and some T3 to see if that " fixes " it. I wonder if this is the same thing for you? Leah xxx > > > > I noticed when I was not converting and became toxic that I became > > jumpy. The noise of someone opening or closing the door made me jump. > > Maybe something similar is going on? > > Miriam > > Thanks Miriam, > I suppose it is possible I have done something by going up. I > certainly feel full of poisons today. I feel like death, like the life > is draining from me, so weak can harly sit up. I feel nauseus but keep > having to snack because my blood sugar feels low, it picks me up > slightly when I do but I do ache and don't feel as jumpy now but just > like I have flu or something. I know I haven't, it isn't exactly like > a virus but you may know the feeling I am trying to get accross. > Oh my goodness. For the last couple of weeks I was feeling quite good > considering, compared to this I felt bloomin marvellous lol. > > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 > Val thinks I am hardly supported on the 30mg due to the state I got >in when I did my washing etc and that I am only supported when doing >nothing and also due to this happening.I am going to have to raise hc >sigh. Dawn, I don't know anything about HC or Armour so can't help there I'm afraid but I'm so sorry that you're feeling so awful and I really hope you get through this rough patch soon and feel better. Be gentle with yourself. x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Thanks I will rest I am sure i will come back up, God willing. Mo, that is a thought isn't it? But I wonder what it is doing in there? I am sleeping so I must have enough, I seem to feel every little thing my body is doing at the moment, not always a good thing. I am so tired today, so icky, sea salt has helped slightly, funny head maybe all this imbalancing is sending my electrolytes mad. I just don't know. luv to all Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Hi Dawn, One thing stood out from your post a mate of mine mentioned that she ha d little scabs/sores on her scalp cos of Candida?? Love Ali I hope you have a better night tonight. Even my > scalp has little scabs in it. yukky. > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Dawn - please phone Dr Peatfield, he is the one who can tell you what to do. He is the one who recommended you start HC. Please don't make excuses to put this off - I know you ). Luv - Sheila Thanks I will rest I am sure i will come back up, God willing. Mo, that is a thought isn't it? But I wonder what it is doing in there? I am sleeping so I must have enough, I seem to feel every little thing my body is doing at the moment, not always a good thing. I am so tired today, so icky, sea salt has helped slightly, funny head maybe all this imbalancing is sending my electrolytes mad. I just don't know. luv to all Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 You are sleeping Dawn? Wow! This ia great news, I had not realised you had progress in this department. Well done! Mo > > Thanks I will rest I am sure i will come back up, God willing. > Mo, that is a thought isn't it? But I wonder what it is doing in > there? I am sleeping so I must have enough, I seem to feel every > little thing my body is doing at the moment, not always a good thing. > I am so tired today, so icky, sea salt has helped slightly, funny head > maybe all this imbalancing is sending my electrolytes mad. I just > don't know. > luv to all > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Guess who aint sleepin again? aghhhhh, sorry Mo false alarm there, I WAS sleeping . Yes Shiela '' I know you ).'' ooops shhh people might notice I procrastinate, actually I only just got to the post and I will for sure ring him tomorrow, but I don't have his number where he is at the mo, he travels does he not? Could you possibly help me there please Shiela? What time does he leave his office? Thanks Ali, actually you may have something there, I was wondering if due to speeding up I was having detox symptoms. Don't know what to do about it in this state tho. lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 WEll it looks like sleep is improving somewhat Dawn so eventually you (we) will get there! I would love to know if Dr P is going to be availble for calls this Wednesday as I am all out of ideas and I surrender..... Mo > > Guess who aint sleepin again? aghhhhh, sorry Mo false alarm there, I > WAS sleeping . > Yes Shiela '' I know you ).'' ooops shhh people might notice I > procrastinate, actually I only just got to the post and I will for > sure ring him tomorrow, but I don't have his number where he is at the > mo, he travels does he not? Could you possibly help me there please > Shiela? What time does he leave his office? > Thanks Ali, actually you may have something there, I was wondering if > due to speeding up I was having detox symptoms. Don't know what to do > about it in this state tho. > > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 I have found if I ring Dr P on wed i can usually get him if I ring at 9am on the dot, he usually answers it then, any other time I get his answer phone, I have done this without an appointment too- WEll it looks like sleep is improving somewhat Dawn so eventually you (we) will get there!I would love to know if Dr P is going to be availble for calls this Wednesday as I am all out of ideas and I surrender... ..Mo>> Guess who aint sleepin again? aghhhhh, sorry Mo false alarm there, I> WAS sleeping .> Yes Shiela '' I know you ).'' ooops shhh people might notice I> procrastinate, actually I only just got to the post and I will for> sure ring him tomorrow, but I don't have his number where he is at the> mo, he travels does he not? Could you possibly help me there please> Shiela? What time does he leave his office?> Thanks Ali, actually you may have something there, I was wondering if> due to speeding up I was having detox symptoms. Don't know what to do> about it in this state tho.> > lotsa luv> Dawnx> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 So you think he is going to be around this Wed ? I don't like to bother him if I can work it out for myself but I cannot this time. Mo > > I have found if I ring Dr P on wed i can usually get him if I ring at 9am on the dot, he usually answers it then, any other time I get his answer phone, I have done this without an appointment too > > > > - > > > > > > > > WEll it looks like sleep is improving somewhat Dawn so eventually you > (we) will get there! > I would love to know if Dr P is going to be availble for calls this > Wednesday as I am all out of ideas and I surrender... .. > > Mo > > > > Guess who aint sleepin again? aghhhhh, sorry Mo false alarm there, I > > WAS sleeping . > > Yes Shiela '' I know you ).'' ooops shhh people might notice I > > procrastinate, actually I only just got to the post and I will for > > sure ring him tomorrow, but I don't have his number where he is at the > > mo, he travels does he not? Could you possibly help me there please > > Shiela? What time does he leave his office? > > Thanks Ali, actually you may have something there, I was wondering if > > due to speeding up I was having detox symptoms. Don't know what to do > > about it in this state tho. > > > > lotsa luv > > Dawnx > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hiya I found his answering machine on a lot so I left a message, hope he gets back to me lotsa luv dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Poor fella is probably innundated, i will try tomorrow. Anyone know what causes unnecessary irritability? I am not usually irritable. lotsa luv Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Dawn, The constant euphoria I got with elevated Cortisol felt like bipolar disorder ~ negative events caused me to hit the buffers on the depressed side of things. You may be experiencing irritability from the hypomania that goes with the euphoria, if your cortisol is too high at the moment. best wishes Bob > > Poor fella is probably innundated, i will try tomorrow. > > Anyone know what causes unnecessary irritability? I am not usually > irritable. > > lotsa luv > Dawnx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Thanks Bob Yes, I am going back down to the 30mg hc which I was ok on till raising the armour. Being a basket case is not fun lol, wibble lotsa luv hon Dawnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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