Re: Bit of a temperature and BP problem?

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Try

high dose Niacin (Vitamin B3) and also high dose CoEnzymeQ10 to help lower your

BP. I am talking of around 300mgs tablets. Anything higher than that should be

done under the supervision of a doctor. You can buy these are www.iherb.com

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Have

you tried to increase your Armour Dawn. What time of day are you taking this?

Luv -

Sheila

Hi folks

I am having a rather consistantly high bp despite my useless bp pills.

Do you think it is because I am on 30mg HC? my last bp is not unlike

the others at 168/102 with a resting hr of 82. Does anyone have any

suggestions about how I should tackle this? I am feeling a tad better

but this is worrying. I am on 2 1/2 mg of armour still. Been at that

Armour level for 20 days.

My temperature seems to like 36.4 C. For some reason, each dosage of

armour my temp climbs slowly up to the norm for underarm then goes

back down gradually to 36.4C underarm). I would have thought that

would be adrenal but I am on more than enough hc now for it not to be

that. Once again any ideas? Do you think I should raise armour again

and use up some cortisol to bring the bp down? I am pretty sure my

hypo causes my high bp.

I will be grateful for advise.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Hi Shiela

I didn't know whether I was supposed to stick for 6 weeks on 2 1/2

grains so I didn't try raising it no luv, do you think I should? I was

taking it all at night for quite a long time, it was liberating,

unfortunately I think the stress on the adrenals was a little too much

so I started taking 25% before bed and spreading the other 3 doses

throughout the day, shame though, I was enjoying the nighttime dosing.

I am on high dose Q10, I always seem to feel ill with high dose niacin

I bought some none flushing but still felt ill after the second dose

so I stuck with the Q10. I could maybe try the niacin again it is

somewhere in the big bag of supplements I have lol. It will remind me

what my symptoms were which made me stop them each time.

Hows u Shiela hon?: We have very very heavy snow here in Whitby and

strong winds. Hope your weather is a bit better, not good for us hypos

is it?

Lotsa luv

Dawnx

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We recommend raising by half a grain

after 4 weeks. Why did you think your night-time dosing was causing stress on

the adrenals. Not sure I understand this. If you were enjoying taking it all at

night, then you should continue. I have actually started my Armour at

night again (if you remembered, I stopped it because I was having night-mares for

some reason. However, since starting it again, I am sleeping better and feeling

fine during the day, and not even dreaming. I will let you know how I get on.

luv - Sheila

Hi Shiela

I didn't know whether I was supposed to stick for 6 weeks on 2 1/2

grains so I didn't try raising it no luv, do you think I should? I was

taking it all at night for quite a long time, it was liberating,

unfortunately I think the stress on the adrenals was a little too much

so I started taking 25% before bed and spreading the other 3 doses

throughout the day, shame though, I was enjoying the nighttime dosing.

I am on high dose Q10, I always seem to feel ill with high dose niacin

I bought some none flushing but still felt ill after the second dose

so I stuck with the Q10. I could maybe try the niacin again it is

somewhere in the big bag of supplements I have lol. It will remind me

what my symptoms were which made me stop them each time.

Hows u Shiela hon?: We have very very heavy snow here in Whitby and

strong winds. Hope your weather is a bit better, not good for us hypos

is it?

Lotsa luv

Dawnx

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>

> We recommend raising by half a grain after 4 weeks. Why did you

think your

> night-time dosing was causing stress on the adrenals. Not sure I

understand

> this. If you were enjoying taking it all at night, then you should

continue.

> I have actually started my Armour at night again (if you remembered, I

> stopped it because I was having night-mares for some reason.

However, since

> starting it again, I am sleeping better and feeling fine during the

day, and

> not even dreaming. I will let you know how I get on.

>

>

Hi Shiela

I have the problem that I am on the lowest bit of hc at night time and

as my dose increased on Armour the waking in the night with a gasp got

worse. I considered this might be stressing my adrenals so decided to

ease up on the amount I took at once again. I also started getting

very croaky later in the day, however, recently I have begun getting

very croaky later in the day again anyway so that bit didn't help. I

am glad you are having success with taking it at night again. Yes

please do let me know how you go on. Nightmares and stuff is supposed

to be made worse by excess adrenalin apparently, I was REALLY having

nightmares that would compete with an acid trip lol. (or what I

have heard about acid trips, yellow submarines and the Beatles etc).

So rekon I can increase the Armour in a few days then? thats cool, I

am glad with the croaky voice etc. Also geting depressed again. Do you

think I could go for it now?

Let me know if you keep ok on the night doses hon

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Hi Dawn

When you start AD's you can get nightmares and when you withdraw from them, I know this probably doesnt apply to you because you have been on the AD for sometime I know, but maybe you had the nightmares not long after starting it or maybe after missing a dose, I dont know? Just a thought anyway. maybe not taking any HC at night might help Dawn, I dont take any at night, my last dose is at about 7pm, I know on the adrenal site they say to take a small ammount at night but it doesnt work for everyone and can keep some people awake

>> We recommend raising by half a grain after 4 weeks. Why did youthink your> night-time dosing was causing stress on the adrenals. Not sure Iunderstand> this. If you were enjoying taking it all at night, then you shouldcontinue.> I have actually started my Armour at night again (if you remembered, I> stopped it because I was having night-mares for some reason.However, since> starting it again, I am sleeping better and feeling fine during theday, and> not even dreaming. I will let you know how I get on.> >Hi ShielaI have the problem that I am on the lowest bit of hc at night time andas my dose increased on Armour the waking in the night with a gasp gotworse. I considered this might be stressing my adrenals so decided toease up on the amount I took at once again. I also started gettingvery croaky later in the day, however, recently I have

begun gettingvery croaky later in the day again anyway so that bit didn't help. Iam glad you are having success with taking it at night again. Yesplease do let me know how you go on. Nightmares and stuff is supposedto be made worse by excess adrenalin apparently, I was REALLY havingnightmares that would compete with an acid trip lol. (or what Ihave heard about acid trips, yellow submarines and the Beatles etc). So rekon I can increase the Armour in a few days then? thats cool, Iam glad with the croaky voice etc. Also geting depressed again. Do youthink I could go for it now?Let me know if you keep ok on the night doses honlotsa luvDawnx

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Hi

Dawn - I would start an increase of half a grain now as you have been 6 weeks

since your last increase. See how you go on.

Luv -

Sheila

So rekon I can increase the Armour in a few days then? thats cool, I

am glad with the croaky voice etc. Also geting depressed again. Do you

think I could go for it now?

Let me know if you keep ok on the night doses hon

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Cheers Shiela I will start tonight hon. I never realised it was 6

weeks blimey, that is a long time. I was being daft and going from the

last 1/4 increase not the increase to 2 derr lol. No wonder my voice

is croaky.

On the plus, I just washed and drip dried lots of my clothes, a major

feat:) I am TOTALLY wiped out now tho. Neer mind eh? Wonder how long

it will take to get any fitness back after long long CFS major hypo

myopathy stretch? Just wondering. Any ideas Shiela?

Thanks , these anti ds really mess with my mind, I really don't

know if it was them or the lack of hc when I was taking all my armour

at night, or hypoglycemia (I had for a while (3 years) been waking up

with low blood sugar and possibly very low cortisol) so it could be

any. I generally don't forget to take one because if I do I feel so

terrible and the head zaps start along with that nagging anxiety in

the gut. How are you doing with yours?

lotsa luv and God bless ladies

Dawnx

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>

> Hi Dawn

> I am not doing too bad thanks, my mood is lifted and I feel brighter

altogether and do seem to have more energy and better still I am back

at work.

>

>

> Thats great , I

am so glad you are feeling so much better. Med phobic, yeah, me too

mostly due to the fact I am addicted to some-well tolerant.

Hope you can get permanently better thyroidwise (new word lol).

God bless hon

Dawnx

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Hi Dawn

If I could just get rid of these funny heads I would be over the moon, had this for 2 yrs and I cant put my finger on what it is, all I can think is its thyroid related, my head feels whooshy, hard to explain but not nice! This is why I wont to try armour cos I am thinking I need more T3

>> Hi Dawn> I am not doing too bad thanks, my mood is lifted and I feel brighteraltogether and do seem to have more energy and better still I am backat work. > > > Thats great , Iam so glad you are feeling so much better. Med phobic, yeah, me toomostly due to the fact I am addicted to some-well tolerant. Hope you can get permanently better thyroidwise (new word lol). God bless honDawnx

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Are

you sure the antidepressants are not causing you a problem . How long have

you had the  wooziness?

Luv -

Sheila

I wouldnt say its dizzyness, the room doesnt spin or

anything, I do have a whooshing noise in my ears and am more aware of it at

night when its quite. My head is whooly yes, doesnt feel my own sometimes and

its like its full of water, very hard to explain. I did blame Ad's but its

like that on and off them. Its like my eyes have to catch up with my head

when I move it, it really is so hard to explain, thats why I dont bother

telling the doc because I dont know how to tell him, I just say I have funny

heads. I think I def have to try armour, it hasnt killed anyone has it?!

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HI Sheila.

I think the AD.s have caused the headaches but the funny head thing has been going on I would say for 2 yrs and its the same if I am on AD's or not! I sometimes feel off balance, have trouble concentrating, if I look round or turn too quick it seems to happen, very strange and I havent found the answer yet! My doc said it was probably anxiety, but I dont know

Are you sure the antidepressants are not causing you a problem . How long have you had the wooziness?

Luv - Sheila

I wouldnt say its dizzyness, the room doesnt spin or anything, I do have a whooshing noise in my ears and am more aware of it at night when its quite. My head is whooly yes, doesnt feel my own sometimes and its like its full of water, very hard to explain. I did blame Ad's but its like that on and off them. Its like my eyes have to catch up with my head when I move it, it really is so hard to explain, thats why I dont bother telling the doc because I dont know how to tell him, I just say I have funny heads. I think I def have to try armour, it hasnt killed anyone has it?!

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Dawn I do know that HC increases BP and increases the heart rate, usually a low BP is a sign of low cortisol so HC is given to normalise it, in my case I have never had low BP and its always been a tad high, maybe HC has made it a bit higher for you. Have you checked your blood sugar because HC also raises blood sugar, I found this out and i am now probably type 2 diabetic but my doc wont diagnose this while I am on HC as it could be that making me look diabetic or I could have been destined to become diabetic anyway. My doc said it was nothing real bad to worry too much about but of course I do. I went a bit OTT testing my blood sugar about 10 times a day when I first found out but I dont do it now as I was having to pay £25 for each pack of 50 testing strips!!! I might get some again soon just to check

Hi folksI am having a rather consistantly high bp despite my useless bp pills.Do you think it is because I am on 30mg HC? my last bp is not unlikethe others at 168/102 with a resting hr of 82. Does anyone have anysuggestions about how I should tackle this? I am feeling a tad betterbut this is worrying. I am on 2 1/2 mg of armour still. Been at thatArmour level for 20 days. My temperature seems to like 36.4 C. For some reason, each dosage ofarmour my temp climbs slowly up to the norm for underarm then goesback down gradually to 36.4C underarm). I would have thought thatwould be adrenal but I am on more than enough hc now for it not to bethat. Once again any ideas? Do you think I should raise armour againand use up some cortisol to bring the bp down? I am pretty sure myhypo causes my high bp.I will be

grateful for advise.lotsa luvDawnx

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Hiya hon

'in my case I have never had low BP and its always been a tad high,

maybe HC has made it a bit higher for you'

Yes I have had slowly increasing bp for a long time, I was borderline

15 years ago, probably due to my long standing Hashis maybe along with

the meds I take, anyway yes, I am sure the HC makes it rise, the hr is

the same tho, it has been fast for a couple of years now. I was a

little worried about the hc because of my bp though, I thought it may

raise it but hoped the armour would take it back down fairly quickly.

It doesn't seem to be happening yet unfortunately.

Can you get funny heads with high bp? I get a funny feeling lately of

someone touching the top of my nose and forehead gently, fairly wierd.

Wondering if that has anything to do with your woosiness?

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Hi

,

This

could be a problem with your ears. It might be an idea to get them checked out

with your GP . However, I asked about your antidepressants because I came

across the following when looking for information and wondered whether there

was a connection http://www.medhelp.org/forums/neuro/messages/34005.html

Luv - Sheila

HI Sheila.

I think the AD.s have

caused the headaches but the funny head thing has been going on I would say

for 2 yrs and its the same if I am on AD's or not! I sometimes feel off

balance, have trouble concentrating, if I look round or turn too quick it

seems to happen, very strange and I havent found the answer yet! My doc said

it was probably anxiety, but I dont know

Are you sure the antidepressants are

not causing you a problem . How long have you had the wooziness?

Luv - Sheila

I wouldnt say

its dizzyness, the room doesnt spin or anything, I do have a whooshing

noise in my ears and am more aware of it at night when its quite. My head

is whooly yes, doesnt feel my own sometimes and its like its full of water,

very hard to explain. I did blame Ad's but its like that on and off them.

Its like my eyes have to catch up with my head when I move it, it really is

so hard to explain, thats why I dont bother telling the doc because I dont

know how to tell him, I just say I have funny heads. I think I def have to

try armour, it hasnt killed anyone has it?!

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Cymbalta

I dont take the above AD which is what your post was referring too but thanks Sheila.

I wish I could describe in better detail what its like but I cant!

I have had sinus pain just lately and some ear wettness and wax, again I think this is a side effect, I remember having it before when I took prozac and went to the docs and he checked my sinus and ears and everything was ok, looks like I am getting the same again, just hope it doesnt last.

The head feeling is something different though and I have it on and off AD's, a feeling of detachment and cotton wool head/ water filled head! I wonder if its thyroid? I remember once thinking it was my eyes and I must have had 4 eye tests in one year because I thought they had given me wrong glasses!-

Hi ,

This could be a problem with your ears. It might be an idea to get them checked out with your GP . However, I asked about your antidepressants because I came across the following when looking for information and wondered whether there was a connection http://www.medhelp. org/forums/ neuro/messages/ 34005.html

Luv - Sheila

HI Sheila.

I think the AD.s have caused the headaches but the funny head thing has been going on I would say for 2 yrs and its the same if I am on AD's or not! I sometimes feel off balance, have trouble concentrating, if I look round or turn too quick it seems to happen, very strange and I havent found the answer yet! My doc said it was probably anxiety, but I dont know

Are you sure the antidepressants are not causing you a problem . How long have you had the wooziness?

Luv - Sheila

I wouldnt say its dizzyness, the room doesnt spin or anything, I do have a whooshing noise in my ears and am more aware of it at night when its quite. My head is whooly yes, doesnt feel my own sometimes and its like its full of water, very hard to explain. I did blame Ad's but its like that on and off them. Its like my eyes have to catch up with my head when I move it, it really is so hard to explain, thats why I dont bother telling the doc because I dont know how to tell him, I just say I have funny heads. I think I def have to try armour, it hasnt killed anyone has it?!

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Hi ,

I wish I could describe in better detail what its like but I cant!I have had sinus pain just lately and some ear wettness and wax

V: I get this, particularly the ear wetness, and just have to live with it.

The head feeling is something different though and I have it on and off AD's, a feeling of detachment and cotton wool head/ water filled head! I wonder if its thyroid?

V: This is how I am when I have mercury problems, and had got to be like this all the time before having my amalgams removed.

Val

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Hi

[[..I have had sinus pain just lately and some ear wettness and wax...]]

Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) leak?

Is this caused by mercury or antidepressants?

best wishes

Bob

>> Cymbalta> I dont take the above AD which is what your post was referring too but

> Thanks Sheila. I wish I could describe in better detail what its like but I can't!

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> The head feeling is something different though

> V: This is how I am when I have mercury problems, and had got to

>be like this all the time before having my amalgams removed.

Val, before you had your amalgams removed did you NEVER have a time

when you didn't have a funny head? (ooh, that sounds awful, hope you

know what I mean :0)) Do you really mean ALL the time?

Do you still have mercury problems? Do they come and go?

Thanks

x

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Hi ,

I guess it got to the stage where I had a funny head nearly all the time, and it got so bad that I would hate walking down a street as I was not sure that I would not bump into people (and sometimes I did!) as I could not judge my size. I lost the ability to read a book - I would try & give up after reading a few lines as I could not comprehend what I was reading, it took me "ages" to read a email or write a reply as I was trying to control my brain to do it (if that makes sense). I had gone from being a good accountant to not being able to follow a conversation a lot of the time. Do I admit that after playing 9 holes of golf in this state, I used to drive really slowly home (sort of 20mph) as I had a job to keep in one side of the road, most of the time, feeling really rough? OK forget that point! I will say that this was on country roads and I was not putting anyone else at risk as I did keep on my side of the road & there were few cars on the road in the middle of the day.

Do I still have mercury problems? Well I thought I was pretty much over them, but when I accidentally ate something a few days ago with coriander in it, my head went horrible, I became anxious & it was a horrible reminder that I really must get back to safe chelating (every 3 hours day & night for at least 3 days each time), & to get on with it ASAP.

Now I am able to read as many books as I like, but sometimes I will get the symptoms back, but most of the time I am fine.

The person who recommends this safe chelating ( Hall Cutler) & has written a couple of books on the subject (one of them is about hair tests I believe) says (if I remember correctly) that mercury causes thyroid & adrenal problems, and I really believe this.

Val

Val, before you had your amalgams removed did you NEVER have a time when you didn't have a funny head? (ooh, that sounds awful, hope you know what I mean :0)) Do you really mean ALL the time?Do you still have mercury problems? Do they come and go? Thanks x

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I dont know Bob, would CSF leak be serious? Sounds it! What would cause it?

Ear wetness gone now and sinus pain too.

Hi

[[..I have had sinus pain just lately and some ear wettness and wax...]]

Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) leak?

Is this caused by mercury or antidepressants?

best wishes

Bob

>> Cymbalta> I dont take the above AD which is what your post was referring too but

> Thanks Sheila. I wish I could describe in better detail what its like but I can't!

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Look at the Wiki on 'CSF leakage'; can't tell if any antidepressants

might be ototoxic....

best wishes

Bob

> I dont know Bob,  would CSF leak be serious? Sounds it! What would

cause it?

> Ear wetness gone now and sinus pain too.

>