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so i have high calcium...

http://www.parathyroid.com/parathyroid-symptoms.htm

......and high RDW.....

However, iron deficiency anemia initially presents with a varied size

distribution of red blood cells, and as such shows an increased RDW.

Isnt this a bit much to have??? i already have hashimotos what more can i

have ......

can someone have a look at the parathyroid link its freaking me out...i dont

like operations.

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> Hi Elaine.

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> Autoimmune Thyroiditis

> Anti TPO 730 (less than 35)

> TPOab 814 (less than 35)

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> Subclinical Hypothyroidism

> Can you post your Thyroid results?

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> CRP is 0.19 (less than 0.6)

> ANA 1/160

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Don't panic hon

Most of us have more than one thing with Hashis.

Just one thing occurs to me, hyperparathyroidism can be a result of low vit D,

it can go up to boost the calcium as the D brings it down. Just a thought. Other

things of course tumours on the parathyroid gland. My neighbour had hers out and

was very pleased with the op. I think she was only in overnight. They are very

tiny glands attached to the thyroid. She had been very moody but improved after

the op, and so did her pain levels.

Hope someone more experienced with this will talk to you about it hon.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

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Many of us have other 'associated conditions' that go alo0ng

with being hypothyroid, whether Hashimoto's is the cause or not. Once you get

these conditions treated, everything usually goes fine. You are not alone

Elaine, you are with tens of thousands of others who have the same complaints.

You will see light at the end of the tunnel - honestly - abut you need to be

patient.

Luv - Sheila

so i have high calcium...

http://www.parathyroid.com/parathyroid-symptoms.htm

......and high RDW.....

However, iron deficiency anemia initially presents with a varied size

distribution of red blood cells, and as such shows an increased RDW.

Isnt this a bit much to have??? i already have hashimotos what more can i

have ......

can someone have a look at the parathyroid link its freaking me out...i dont

like operations.

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Hi Elaine,

Dont freak out about the Calcium.

I DID have Hyperparathyroidism as confirmed by elevated PTH. Mine was Secondary

to VERY deficient Vit D. Vit D is needed for Calcium metabolism. As Dawn said

the Parathyroids then react by increasing PTH (Parathyroid Hormone) in order to

bring Calcium backup.

It can bring it up too much hence the elevated Calcium.

I was also TOTALLY freaked out initially by that Parathyroid.com site!!! But

optimising Vit D eventually reduced PTH back into range & calcium back to

midrange (which is optimal). My Calcium never actually wet overrange but was

high in range.

What you need to do is this

1/ do not supp Calcium at all (check multi's)

2/ Start a good Mag supp if not already on one. Mag & Calcium have inverse

relationship so increasing Mag will help keep Calcium down.

3/ get Vit D (25-OH D), corrected Calcium, Phosphorus and PTH tested.

4/ If Vit D is deficient or suboptimal start supping immediately

Note: Vit D Council used to recommend optimal of 45-60 ng/mL (112.5-150 nmol/L)

but this year revised optimal UP now 50–80 ng/mL (125–200 nmol/L)

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/

Recommended daily dose 1000 IU (25mg) per 25 lbs (~11.36 kilos) of body weight

and retest in 2-3 months.

Make sure you get D3 (cholecalciferol) NOT D2 (ergocalciferol). Dont get rx Vit

D as its all D2. Gelcaps are better than pills/tabs as is fat soluble Vit. Vit D

is cheap I just get 1000 IU caps started at 1000 IU & built up retesting evry

2-3 months. Took 5 months to optimise. Still recheck evry 6-7 months found it

had dropped once & had to increase " maintenance " dose to 2000 IU daily.

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http://www.drkaslow.com/html/blood_cell_counts.htmlRandom

Distribution of Weight (RDW) *Yours elevated

The RDW stands for Random Distribution of RBC Weight. It tells how consistent

are the size of the red blood cells. Newly made cells (reticulocytes), B12 and

folic acid deficient cells are larger than iron deficient cells. This is an

electronic index that may help clarify if an anemia has multiple components. The

high RDW helps determine if there is only a B12 and/or folic acid deficiency

(with normal RDW showing the red cells are mostly the same size) or with

concomitant iron deficiency (a high RDW due to small and large red blood cells).

Optimal Range: ~13

The RDW is often increased in:

B12 and Pernicious anemia

Folic acid anemia

Iron deficiency anemia combined with other anemia

Hemolytic anemia

Transfusions

Sideroblastic anemia

Alcohol abuse

Various less common and hereditary anemias

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Mean Corpuscular Hemoglobin Concentration (MCHC) *yours deficient

The average hemoglobin concentration per unit volume (100 ml) of packed red

cells is indicated by MCHC.

Optimum values: 32 to 35 %.

MCHC is increased in and decreased in the same conditions as the MCV. Two

exceptions - in spherocytosis, the MCHC is elevated but not in pernicious

anemia.

The MCV is decreased in:

Copper deficiency

Low stomach acid (Hypochlorhydria).

Vitamin C insufficiency.

Vitamin B6 deficiency.

Rheumatoid arthritis.

Toxic effects of lead and other toxic elements.

Hereditary (thalassemias, sideroblastic)

Iron deficiency (blood loss, parasites, poor intake, low stomach acid, etc)

After a splenectomy

Hemolytic anemia

* Note: Because anemia due to folic acid and B12 anemia are difficult to

differentiate without more sophisticated tests, any supplementation of B12

should always be accompanied by Folic Acid as well, and vice versa. It has been

said that an iron:copper ratio <1 on a hair-mineral analysis is indicative of

both folic acid and B12 need. Folic acid and B12 should be considered in all

cases of nerve inflammation, nerve degeneration blood sugar problems, nerve

irritation and vegetarian diets. Often with either folic acid or B12 deficiency,

there is low stomach acid. It is important to treat all of these deficiencies

rapidly and effectively to prevent permanent damage.

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High RDW can be Iron, B12 or Folate deficiencies.

Test Ferritin , B12 & RBC Folate levels.

Low MCHC can be Iron, B6 , Vit C, low stomach acid.

Supping B12 (5000mcg sublingual Methylcobalamin) and active Folate (800-1000mcg

either Folinic Acid or 5-methyltetrafolate forms) daily plus a good basic dose

B-Multi (again ACTIVE forms) will soon put that right.

If Iron/Ferritin is low just supping the B's above will bring it up some. So

will Vit C (increases uptake & absorption).

Stomach acid can supp Betaine HCl

Vit A (10000 IU Retinyl Palmitate) and Vit K (with K1 & K2 forms) all help with

Vit D/Calcium metaolism too.

Many Hypos have problems with Vit D, Iron, Vit A, B Vits. Usually simple to fix

if use good quality active forms.

This was high in range too....

N Segmentados (Neutrophils?)- 69 (45-70%) *high in range

If it is Neutrophils you may have had an infection/inflammation going on at the

time.

Note too that I wasnt sure of a few of the CBC translations hence my ? marks

against them. I matched them as best I could based on translator & ref ranges.

ANA is just a " general " indicator of inflammation & is not very specific. You

have Hashi's an Autoimmune condition & that alone can cause inflammation.

Good news is your CRP another inflammatory marker is good, so is Uric Acid, the

Liver & Kidney tests, cholesterol, blood sugars all good.

Lethal Lee

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