Re: Body's first day reaction

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On Apr 19, 2008, at 5:54 PM, <emhosdil@...>

<emhosdil@...> wrote:

> Does anyone have this experience? And more to the point, does

> anyone have an explanation as to why it happens?

>

> I have had it happen many times that when I start a new medication,

> supplement, or superfood, the very first day I use it I feel a

> powerful reaction (usually good, sometimes bad as with a couple

> medications I've used). Then after that, I don't have that kind of

> an extreme reaction, just sort of the normally expected one.

I can explain it as a homeopath: (Bear with me?)

Whenever I suggest a remedy to a clietn for their animal - I am a

veterinary homeopath - I ask them to note any immediate reaction -

usually an emotional positive one, like looking more cheerful or

eating for the first time in days or whatever. When it is the right

homeopathic remedy for the case, this positive response of some kind

is always seen. So I have the client look for it to confirm my

selection. (I consult by email so do not see the animal myself.)

I also know I will only see this the first time the remedy is given.

After a few doses of remedy it will usually stop helping - UNLESS i

then give the remedy in a higher energy form - called a higher potency.

I believe that you are seeing this same response - an energy response

to tell you this is good stuff, but then it can only do a little work

and runs out of energy. YOU need a " higher potency " to do more good

work.

Homeopathy has developed higher potency remedies for just this

reason. To cure an illness in homeopathy, is really to build health

and resistance - no disease is attacked - there are no bacteria or

virus killers in homeopathy - it's just that the body is made too

healthy to allow attack - by bacteria, viruses, toxins, cancers etc.

But to do this requires very often, a higher energy than the

individual food or remedy can provide in a non-potentized form. So

one starts with a particualtr potency - sees what you have so well

described - then move to a higher potency.

Now you will not find a higher potency of the food, but it is a sure

sign that your body is wanting a higher energy of that item.

You can either turn to homeopathy to get it (needing a good

homeopath, hard to find)

OR

There is a whole new field of alternative medicine (well not new, but

newly available in English instead of only in French) called

Gemmotherapy that you may want to consider:

This is the use of plant stem cells (gem cells hence gemmotherapy),

which uses plant buds collected in quantity in Spring, and made into

concentrated form - as these contain the medicinal value of the

entire plant. These are powerful indeed, do not overdose, start with

low dose like one drop and find your beast dose gradually.

The usual dose is 1 or more drops depending on YOUR need of energy

level.

The definitive book on it has just been published in English - I just

bought a copy and am very impressed, it is on Lulu.com written by Dr

J Rozencwajg. You can see more about Dr Rozencwajg at bihusa.com

where he tutors homeopathy and wrote their course and textbook on

gemmotherapy (the first in English for world use?). He's a tutor

there - he's also professor of natural medicine at a Natural Health

university in UK. Anyway his gemmotherapy book is about $40 at

Lul.com and is worth at least that if you are serious about health.

I am using the book myself to plan new approaches for my animal

clients to use in conjunction with homeopathy.

Examples of what gemmotherapy can do:

One of the remedies works better than steroids for serious illness

that uses steroids. You can use the gemmotherapy remedy instead - and

get off steroid drugs, and have a healthy adrenal system again.

Another one normalizes heart problems, immune system issues, you name

it.

Anyway - I hope the explanation of what you perceived is helpful.

> In the past I allowed myself to be convinced that it was

> psychosomatic,

No, I see it all the time, even in animals - and they do not do the

psychosomatic thing:-)

It's an energy thing - comes from the energy of a medicine (or food),

rather than the chemical aspect.

> but this has happened to me so frequently that I can't deny its

> reality. Most recently it happened as I started using Montmorency

> cherry concentrate (yum!).

Maybe you need cherry gemmotherapy:-)

> The first night I used it I had a tremendously restful night's

> sleep, and the next day I felt I could bench-press my house.

Send me some!!!!

:-)

HOPE THIS HELPED EXPLAIN?

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc;D.I.Hom;D.Vet.Hom.

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Hi Irene,

A belated reply from me... Your explanation does make sense to me, as I am

familiar with using homeopathy. However, I recall when I was on a thyroid

medicine (it was T3, for inverse T3 dominance, 's syndrome) it used a

steadily increasing dose, but I never did re-experience the intial surge

feeling. And what of bad effects that also go away? I took clomid for a time,

and the first month my vision bothered me (dizziness) and I felt overly

emotional, but then after that the difficulty went away.

Thanks for your response.

Marie

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On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:26 PM, <emhosdil@...>

<emhosdil@...> wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

> A belated reply from me... Your explanation does make sense to me,

> as I am familiar with using homeopathy. However, I recall when I

> was on a thyroid medicine (it was T3, for inverse T3 dominance,

> 's syndrome) it used a steadily increasing dose, but I never

> did re-experience the intial surge feeling.

Hi Marie,

I understand that and oddly the same applies in homeopathy. It's only

the very first dose that seems to trigger this effect. I do not know

how to explain why it is so, except that I am convinced it is an

energetic signature effect of the substance taken - and the body's

recognition of that signature - rather than a chemical effect. It's

as if the body says - yes I detect that signature - and thereafter

needs not acknowledge it again.

By the way - did you get rid of 's syndrome with T3 medication?

I am interested because I have cortisol producing tumors hence a

whole load of reverse T3 where I should have active T3. But because

my blood is full of cortisol which I can not remove, no treatment is

offered to me. I get to live with the symptoms:-(

Apparently adding more T3 in my case would just lead to more rT3,

os so it is assumed - not that anyone in the medic al world even

suggested T3 supplements :-(

My thyroid is not a happy camper after 10 yrs of it, and I have a

half dozen large tumors there as one of the many consequences of the

very high cortisol and its far-reaching effects.

> And what of bad effects that also go away?

That has more to do with your body learning to up its toxin handling

procedure for the specific item.

This will occur any time the medicine is not curative but suppressive

- there's a big difference between those two - and/or is toxic in

nature.

> I took clomid for a time, and the first month my vision bothered me

> (dizziness) and I felt overly emotional, but then after that the

> difficulty went away.

>

> Thanks for your response.

Thanks for the discussion:-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

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>>By the way - did you get rid of 's syndrome with T3 medication?<<

I'm not certain I ever had my reverse T3 levels tested again. I was on T3 for

quite a long time, perscribed by my fertility specialist who was willing to

accept scorn from his peers by endorsing the idea of 's Syndrome to begin

with, but not so willing to believe the protocol cured it. AFter some time,

even on a lowish dose, I started complaining of heart palpitations, so I went

off it. Some time later I did get pregnant, and every test of my thyroid since

has come back *really* normal, rather than just technically normal with levels

at or just under the lower limit. But I haven't had the rT3 levels tested as I

said.

Marie

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I've just been reading The Cortisol Connection by Talbott. It talks about

a lot of supplements that are supposed to lower cortisol. I'm curious - and

interested because I've been experiencing a lot of stress and related symptoms -

do none of the cortisol lowering supplements work for you, Irene?

Re: Body's first day reaction

On Apr 29, 2008, at 9:26 PM, <emhosdilsbcglobal (DOT) net>

<emhosdilsbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote:

> Hi Irene,

>

> A belated reply from me... Your explanation does make sense to me,

> as I am familiar with using homeopathy. However, I recall when I

> was on a thyroid medicine (it was T3, for inverse T3 dominance,

> 's syndrome) it used a steadily increasing dose, but I never

> did re-experience the intial surge feeling.

Hi Marie,

I understand that and oddly the same applies in homeopathy. It's only

the very first dose that seems to trigger this effect. I do not know

how to explain why it is so, except that I am convinced it is an

energetic signature effect of the substance taken - and the body's

recognition of that signature - rather than a chemical effect. It's

as if the body says - yes I detect that signature - and thereafter

needs not acknowledge it again.

By the way - did you get rid of 's syndrome with T3 medication?

I am interested because I have cortisol producing tumors hence a

whole load of reverse T3 where I should have active T3. But because

my blood is full of cortisol which I can not remove, no treatment is

offered to me. I get to live with the symptoms:-(

Apparently adding more T3 in my case would just lead to more rT3,

os so it is assumed - not that anyone in the medic al world even

suggested T3 supplements :-(

My thyroid is not a happy camper after 10 yrs of it, and I have a

half dozen large tumors there as one of the many consequences of the

very high cortisol and its far-reaching effects.

> And what of bad effects that also go away?

That has more to do with your body learning to up its toxin handling

procedure for the specific item.

This will occur any time the medicine is not curative but suppressive

- there's a big difference between those two - and/or is toxic in

nature.

> I took clomid for a time, and the first month my vision bothered me

> (dizziness) and I felt overly emotional, but then after that the

> difficulty went away.

>

> Thanks for your response.

Thanks for the discussion:- )

Namaste,

Irene

--

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

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On May 1, 2008, at 5:55 AM, <emhosdil@...>

<emhosdil@...> wrote:

>>> By the way - did you get rid of 's syndrome with T3

>>> medication?<<

>

> I'm not certain I ever had my reverse T3 levels tested again. I

> was on T3 for quite a long time, perscribed by my fertility

> specialist who was willing to accept scorn from his peers by

> endorsing the idea of 's Syndrome to begin with, but not so

> willing to believe the protocol cured it.

How frustrating.

I have read the official view (of waffling nonsense) from the

American Thyroid society or whatever they go by, and of course it is

full of false conclusions based on nothing. They do not even address

the FACT that rT3 exists and blocks T3 receptors. Yet they feel

qualified to conclude that 's syndrome does not exist. What a

crock!

How convenient for them.

> AFter some time, even on a lowish dose, I started complaining of

> heart palpitations, so I went off it.

There's more to heart palpitations than excess T3. They are caused by

so many different things - low potassium being another major cause.

Do you happen to know your potassium levels? They are often low when

rT3 is around. I take a significant supplement daily to help my

potassium stay in the MID range. Potassium needs to be mid-range, not

" within normal limits " at the bottom of the range. It should be 4.0

at least to prevent heart palpitations and blood pressure etc issues.

> Some time later I did get pregnant, and every test of my thyroid

> since has come back *really* normal, rather than just technically

> normal with levels at or just under the lower limit.

Good news then, sounds like it did help to use the T3.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

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On May 1, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> I've just been reading The Cortisol Connection by Talbott. It

> talks about a lot of supplements that are supposed to lower

> cortisol. I'm curious - and interested because I've been

> experiencing a lot of stress and related symptoms - do none of the

> cortisol lowering supplements work for you, Irene?

Hi ,

Good question. The main problem is that my cortisol is not just

high, it's like an ocean of the stuff, (normal of 10, with 11 or 12

ibeing a very stressed person, mine is 259 so I am badly poisoned by

it) and so even though supplements take down some of it, and I use

many of them (as many as my low budget will allow) it is like a cup

of water in an ocean of cortisol.

So because tumors make 259 units a day I have to find ways to

dissipate that many every day (and my entire life revolves around

that) or else there is a igher total to dissipate the next day and I

am soon freaking out all over the place and having heart attacks.

The other aspect is to avoid stress altogether as any stress today

means I am not dissipating today's load during stress times and it

will be added to tomorrow's load. I can't afford that.

Because cortisol is catabolic I also need to eat to replace and

rebuild damaged body every day - a losing battle but it would be

worse if I did not work at it.

Some of my strategies - hopefully they may help you too:

* Diet thus has a great deal to do with managing my situation. Also

sleep and exercise.

Eating very low carb and very high protein and high antioxidant

helps. No inflammatory foods and lots of antioxidant ones. (Otherwise

I am out of breath and out of energy.)

* Sleeping 8 hrs at least - as cortisol is dissipated during sleep. I

wake up often but stay in bed and keep working at getting more sleep

till I have had at least 8 hrs, no matter how late in the day that

gets me. (This requires being self-employed.)

* Exercise dissipates cortisol IF it is 10 mins or less at a time.

More exercise in one session actually increases cortisol as after 10

mins the body sees exercise as a stress, and secretes cortisol to

help handle it.

* I avoid all frights and surprises as those ALL cause cortisol

secretion and/or misuse of already high cortisol through freak-

response that only makes it worse and prevents dissipation. I do not

even have the phone ring -it's a fright/surprise thing - I use an

answer machine and email.

All the above do more for me than any supplement.

* Supplements I find the most cost-beneficial:

Vit E 1000 IU without fail every day....for cell wall health.

Vit C 4000 mg or more per day.....for inside the cells.

Alpha lipoic acid (which recycles the above two) 300mg or whatever I

can afford.

Fish oil 4 to 6 caps a day or more.

* The other cortisol-lowering items have a far smaller effect. Best

of them for me:

Rhodiola

Turmeric/curry

Nori (for the iodine to help my stressed out thyroid, as cortisol

makes reverse T3 that blocks the active T3 needed. I have quite

severe hypothyroid symptoms.)

I've tried so many other herbs etc but they all have a high price and

a low effect. Like a flea on an elephant.

* Ginger is one that helps, but indirectly to address cortisol damage

rather than to lower it, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract

which is a favorite place for cortisol to break down muscle to make

more sugar - leaving the gut and esophagus walls in a severe state of

GERD.

Note: Fish oil and Vit E, together undo cell damage, esp to kidneys.

* The other thing I use is a hydrofloss (used after brushing and

flossing) to kill bacteria under the gumline where cortisol likes to

wreak havoc on teeth. [it makes microfine cracks not visible on

normal xray - needs one that magnifies a tooth to 18 inches -

alllowing bacteria to get to the jawbone and set up infections in the

bone, as I found out the hard way.]

* I could go on with the effects of cortisol but the above are the

best options to counter it and its damage, and indeed to undo some of

the damage.

I've outlived my predicted life (of 2 yrs since early 1998) by lots

of planning my life around this cortisol problem.

I'm always on the lookout for new and better strategies however - it

is what keeps me alive.

To me a KEY issue is avoiding all stress so as to dissipate today's

cortisol before tomorrow's load arrives. And I sincerely think that

doing this is the true key using meditation, and other strategies and

life planning to be nonstress.

(Cortisol is not called the death hormone for nothing - change your

life if it is stressful)

Second is sleep, third is the right kind of exercise, and fourth only

(though also essential) is supplements.

* Oh I forgot - lots of liquid daily to eliminate the VERY toxic

results of cortisol - but in the form of green tea - the theonine in

it takes down some cortisol.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

WOW, Irene, you have it really tough. And I really appreciate all the

information. Your emails contain more helpful information than I've gotten from

the doctors I've seen.

I'm working on the exercise, sleep is a problem, but I don't know how to avoid

the stress. Except I've discovered I can avoid a little bit of it by not

watching the news.

Where does sodium fit into the picture? Do sodium and potassium antagonize each

other? Do you have to limit your sodium intake? One doctor suggested I take

extra salt (sodium) to help me sleep. Will I make any potassium deficiency worse

if I take more sodium?

Have you found any advantages to the genotype diet over the blood type diet?

Thank you!

Re: Body's first day reaction

On May 1, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> I've just been reading The Cortisol Connection by Talbott. It

> talks about a lot of supplements that are supposed to lower

> cortisol. I'm curious - and interested because I've been

> experiencing a lot of stress and related symptoms - do none of the

> cortisol lowering supplements work for you, Irene?

Hi ,

Good question. The main problem is that my cortisol is not just

high, it's like an ocean of the stuff, (normal of 10, with 11 or 12

ibeing a very stressed person, mine is 259 so I am badly poisoned by

it) and so even though supplements take down some of it, and I use

many of them (as many as my low budget will allow) it is like a cup

of water in an ocean of cortisol.

So because tumors make 259 units a day I have to find ways to

dissipate that many every day (and my entire life revolves around

that) or else there is a igher total to dissipate the next day and I

am soon freaking out all over the place and having heart attacks.

The other aspect is to avoid stress altogether as any stress today

means I am not dissipating today's load during stress times and it

will be added to tomorrow's load. I can't afford that.

Because cortisol is catabolic I also need to eat to replace and

rebuild damaged body every day - a losing battle but it would be

worse if I did not work at it.

Some of my strategies - hopefully they may help you too:

* Diet thus has a great deal to do with managing my situation. Also

sleep and exercise.

Eating very low carb and very high protein and high antioxidant

helps. No inflammatory foods and lots of antioxidant ones. (Otherwise

I am out of breath and out of energy.)

* Sleeping 8 hrs at least - as cortisol is dissipated during sleep. I

wake up often but stay in bed and keep working at getting more sleep

till I have had at least 8 hrs, no matter how late in the day that

gets me. (This requires being self-employed. )

* Exercise dissipates cortisol IF it is 10 mins or less at a time.

More exercise in one session actually increases cortisol as after 10

mins the body sees exercise as a stress, and secretes cortisol to

help handle it.

* I avoid all frights and surprises as those ALL cause cortisol

secretion and/or misuse of already high cortisol through freak-

response that only makes it worse and prevents dissipation. I do not

even have the phone ring -it's a fright/surprise thing - I use an

answer machine and email.

All the above do more for me than any supplement.

* Supplements I find the most cost-beneficial:

Vit E 1000 IU without fail every day....for cell wall health.

Vit C 4000 mg or more per day.....for inside the cells.

Alpha lipoic acid (which recycles the above two) 300mg or whatever I

can afford.

Fish oil 4 to 6 caps a day or more.

* The other cortisol-lowering items have a far smaller effect. Best

of them for me:

Rhodiola

Turmeric/curry

Nori (for the iodine to help my stressed out thyroid, as cortisol

makes reverse T3 that blocks the active T3 needed. I have quite

severe hypothyroid symptoms.)

I've tried so many other herbs etc but they all have a high price and

a low effect. Like a flea on an elephant.

* Ginger is one that helps, but indirectly to address cortisol damage

rather than to lower it, especially in the gastro-intestinal tract

which is a favorite place for cortisol to break down muscle to make

more sugar - leaving the gut and esophagus walls in a severe state of

GERD.

Note: Fish oil and Vit E, together undo cell damage, esp to kidneys.

* The other thing I use is a hydrofloss (used after brushing and

flossing) to kill bacteria under the gumline where cortisol likes to

wreak havoc on teeth. [it makes microfine cracks not visible on

normal xray - needs one that magnifies a tooth to 18 inches -

alllowing bacteria to get to the jawbone and set up infections in the

bone, as I found out the hard way.]

* I could go on with the effects of cortisol but the above are the

best options to counter it and its damage, and indeed to undo some of

the damage.

I've outlived my predicted life (of 2 yrs since early 1998) by lots

of planning my life around this cortisol problem.

I'm always on the lookout for new and better strategies however - it

is what keeps me alive.

To me a KEY issue is avoiding all stress so as to dissipate today's

cortisol before tomorrow's load arrives. And I sincerely think that

doing this is the true key using meditation, and other strategies and

life planning to be nonstress.

(Cortisol is not called the death hormone for nothing - change your

life if it is stressful)

Second is sleep, third is the right kind of exercise, and fourth only

(though also essential) is supplements.

* Oh I forgot - lots of liquid daily to eliminate the VERY toxic

results of cortisol - but in the form of green tea - the theonine in

it takes down some cortisol.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

________________________________________________________________________________\

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know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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On May 2, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> WOW, Irene, you have it really tough. And I really appreciate all

> the information. Your emails contain more helpful information than

> I've gotten from the doctors I've seen.

Hi ,

Someone may as well benefit from the things I find out to help

myself with this illness:-)

The doctors are zero help:-)

> I'm working on the exercise, sleep is a problem, but I don't know

> how to avoid the stress.

Seriously - take it seriously and consider it a necessity to change

whatever needs to change to get a life that's not that way - even if

it takes a while to organize it that way.

> Except I've discovered I can avoid a little bit of it by not

> watching the news.

I agree - I never watch it:-)

> Where does sodium fit into the picture?

Oh Boy - how did I skip something that relevant!

There is no salt pot in my house. At all. There are lots of hervs And

spices, and I run a low salt email list.

If I eat out - and I do - it has to be no salt added and no soy sauce

or gravy or whatever etc

Salt really interferes badly when there is cortisol around.

> Do sodium and potassium antagonize each other?

They act separately - but the more sodium you poison yourself with,

the more potassium you need to detoxify it.

In addition:

Cortisol causes you to lose potassium and retain salt - so you need

to skip the sodium salt, and in crease the potassium salt.

> Do you have to limit your sodium intake?

Down to zero other than what's inside a spinach leaf, or a steak as

it comes. My diet makes strictly low salt look like buckets of salt.

It's especially bad later in the day as anything I eat that has ANY

salt during the day, causes accumulation of edema, heaviness of

limbs, swollen everywhere including nose to breathe, esp lying down.

During the night as cortisol is dissipated, the kidneys can start to

collect it and get rid of it by morning (or during the night.)

> One doctor suggested I take extra salt (sodium) to help me sleep.

Has he COMPELTELY lost his little mind?

Potassium maybe yes.

Also magnesium.

Also Vit B6.

Magnesium is a nerve nutrient and needs potassium to " hold " it and B6

to absorb it.

Together the three nutrients calm nerves.

Salt of course does the opposite. That doctor has made a humungus error!

By the way B6 also is destroyed by cortisol.

Sugar and salt will keep you awake, as will magnesium deficiency!

Calm nerves will let you sleep.

> Will I make any potassium deficiency worse if I take more sodium?

Yes.

Do NOT take more sodium - someone needs his head read or his license

pulled.

> Have you found any advantages to the genotype diet over the blood

> type diet?

Not yet.

Have you?

I've found it so very confusing (the contradictions) that I am lately

eating whatever I feel like eating, (but asking myself carefully if I

REALLY feel like that item) and trying to figure out for myself what

makes me feel better or worse.

So far I know mangoes make me feel great, as do passion fruit or

guava or watermelon.

Avocado makes me feel ill. I'm allergic to banana.

I've added back dried granny smith apples (a nono on BTD) - but other

apples do not agree.

And I know if I eat wheat, I feel bloody lousy, excuse the language,

but it is very severely lousy.

So much so I avoid the slightest gravy that may have a bit for

thickening. (I eat out most meals so it is hard.)

But I find I eat cheese no problem.

And lamb and beef are great. Chicken I can eat but it does not

sustain me, I am hungry in nothing flat.

Fish is in-between. Hard to always get what's on the list.

If I am going to eat wheat, I do it before noon as pastry, I dunno

why pastry works better - maybe the butter in it? - so I can eat

spanakopita and beef stroganoff turnovers for example, if it is

before noon. But not a drop of flour-made gravy. ANd I shudder even

thinking about any kind of bread now except China black-rice bread in

small amounts.

Same with fresh popcorn - okay in small amount before noon.

Vietnamese food is great for me. Typical meal at a local restaurant

(they leave out the soy sauce for me and use EV olive oil)

has stir-fried plate of beef and shrimp with bright colors of

asparagus, red and green peppers, onion, mushroom, snow peas and

carrot - which all sits well with me - with a little rice on the

side. (Costs less than ten bucks for a huge plate - at last 2 meals

worth!)

They have various spicy sauces (1 to 5 star " hot " ) which also work

for me. I like spicy food.

How do you handle the genotype/blood type diet things?

Are you also an explorer or?

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

(I hope all this is helpful to somebody else, too)

The doctor who told me to eat salt is an alternative MD who I have had a lot of

respect for and who has helped me a lot for over 20 years. I also worked for him

for a while so I know him better than just as a patient. I learned a lot as his

nurse. But his salt recommendation didn't feel right. For a few days before my

latest round of bad panic attacks, things had been tasting too salty to me. When

the panic attacks started, I did some research and it seemed really clear that I

needed potassium. I started taking K(potassium)  and I felt really good for a

day or two until the attacks came back.

There was a period a few years ago when I was taking extra salt (sodium) on the

advice of a naturopath, after avoiding salt for decades. During that time, the

salt did help me sleep better and prevented panic attacks and leg cramps. There

came a time when it didn't work anymore. 

Is there a pure, natural potassium salt (like Celtic sea salt but potassium

instead of sodium)? Isn't there a lot of sodium in sea vegetables? Is that a

problem? I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda and rinsing with salt

water in my water pik type appliance. Is that a bad idea too? I do have

noticeable ankle swelling at night which is gone in the morning and nose

swelling /difficult breathing which is worse when I lie down.

I'm working on lowering stress, but it is difficult. Most of it is about my

financial situation. For years I have been fearing running out of money. Now

I've done it. I don't know how to get more money in my life, but I'm collecting

resources like food stamps and aid with utility and medical bills and

eliminating unnecessary expenses. I find now that dealing with the situation is

less stressful than fearing it. And I'm getting more exercise, which helps.

The doctor who suggested salt also said to take it with apple cider vinegar.

What's your take on that?

In January I switched from the BTD to the genotype diet. I am an explorer. I

felt better for about two weeks and was really enjoying the spelt bread and

cheese that I hadn't been able to eat before. Then I started having headaches

every day. Finally I quit the spelt, and the headaches went away. Now I am doing

a combination of BTD and GTD and experimenting with different foods that are

good on one diet and bad on the other. Quinoa and amaranth seem to be OK (I make

muffins with those) and I eat some sprouted wheat bread. I don't understand how

a particular food can be good for me as an explorer and bad for me as an O

nonnie at the same time, so I feel a little freer to eat what feels right to me

instead of following the lists so closely.

I haven't been able to find passion fruit or guava; I wish I could. That's

interesting about different kinds of apples having different effects. I'll

experiment with that. 

This conversation is very helpful for me. Thank you!

 

Re: Body's first day reaction

On May 2, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> WOW, Irene, you have it really tough. And I really appreciate all

> the information. Your emails contain more helpful information than

> I've gotten from the doctors I've seen.

Hi ,

Someone may as well benefit from the things I find out to help

myself with this illness:-)

The doctors are zero help:-)

> I'm working on the exercise, sleep is a problem, but I don't know

> how to avoid the stress.

Seriously - take it seriously and consider it a necessity to change

whatever needs to change to get a life that's not that way - even if

it takes a while to organize it that way.

> Except I've discovered I can avoid a little bit of it by not

> watching the news.

I agree - I never watch it:-)

> Where does sodium fit into the picture?

Oh Boy - how did I skip something that relevant!

There is no salt pot in my house. At all. There are lots of hervs And

spices, and I run a low salt email list.

If I eat out - and I do - it has to be no salt added and no soy sauce

or gravy or whatever etc

Salt really interferes badly when there is cortisol around.

> Do sodium and potassium antagonize each other?

They act separately - but the more sodium you poison yourself with,

the more potassium you need to detoxify it.

In addition:

Cortisol causes you to lose potassium and retain salt - so you need

to skip the sodium salt, and in crease the potassium salt.

> Do you have to limit your sodium intake?

Down to zero other than what's inside a spinach leaf, or a steak as

it comes. My diet makes strictly low salt look like buckets of salt.

It's especially bad later in the day as anything I eat that has ANY

salt during the day, causes accumulation of edema, heaviness of

limbs, swollen everywhere including nose to breathe, esp lying down.

During the night as cortisol is dissipated, the kidneys can start to

collect it and get rid of it by morning (or during the night.)

> One doctor suggested I take extra salt (sodium) to help me sleep.

Has he COMPELTELY lost his little mind?

Potassium maybe yes.

Also magnesium.

Also Vit B6.

Magnesium is a nerve nutrient and needs potassium to " hold " it and B6

to absorb it.

Together the three nutrients calm nerves.

Salt of course does the opposite. That doctor has made a humungus error!

By the way B6 also is destroyed by cortisol.

Sugar and salt will keep you awake, as will magnesium deficiency!

Calm nerves will let you sleep.

> Will I make any potassium deficiency worse if I take more sodium?

Yes.

Do NOT take more sodium - someone needs his head read or his license

pulled.

> Have you found any advantages to the genotype diet over the blood

> type diet?

Not yet.

Have you?

I've found it so very confusing (the contradictions) that I am lately

eating whatever I feel like eating, (but asking myself carefully if I

REALLY feel like that item) and trying to figure out for myself what

makes me feel better or worse.

So far I know mangoes make me feel great, as do passion fruit or

guava or watermelon.

Avocado makes me feel ill. I'm allergic to banana.

I've added back dried granny smith apples (a nono on BTD) - but other

apples do not agree.

And I know if I eat wheat, I feel bloody lousy, excuse the language,

but it is very severely lousy.

So much so I avoid the slightest gravy that may have a bit for

thickening. (I eat out most meals so it is hard.)

But I find I eat cheese no problem.

And lamb and beef are great. Chicken I can eat but it does not

sustain me, I am hungry in nothing flat.

Fish is in-between. Hard to always get what's on the list.

If I am going to eat wheat, I do it before noon as pastry, I dunno

why pastry works better - maybe the butter in it? - so I can eat

spanakopita and beef stroganoff turnovers for example, if it is

before noon. But not a drop of flour-made gravy. ANd I shudder even

thinking about any kind of bread now except China black-rice bread in

small amounts.

Same with fresh popcorn - okay in small amount before noon.

Vietnamese food is great for me. Typical meal at a local restaurant

(they leave out the soy sauce for me and use EV olive oil)

has stir-fried plate of beef and shrimp with bright colors of

asparagus, red and green peppers, onion, mushroom, snow peas and

carrot - which all sits well with me - with a little rice on the

side. (Costs less than ten bucks for a huge plate - at last 2 meals

worth!)

They have various spicy sauces (1 to 5 star " hot " ) which also work

for me. I like spicy food.

How do you handle the genotype/blood type diet things?

Are you also an explorer or?

Namaste,

Irene

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On May 3, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> Hi Irene,

> (I hope all this is helpful to somebody else, too)

> The doctor who told me to eat salt is an alternative MD who I have

> had a lot of respect for and who has helped me a lot for over 20

> years. I also worked for him for a while so I know him better than

> just as a patient. I learned a lot as his nurse.

Dear ,

My mother had that kind of respect and liking for her doctor. Same

doctor I had as a kid - so decads of " doctoring " . But he killed her

anyway with bad medical advice. It happened overnight when he decided

she did not need the quite high dose potassium she was taking at my

suggestion. She was dead in day from a massive heart attack due to

lack of potassium.

So it is very important to differentiate between good medical

advice and good friendship. They are separate.

It can also go the other way round - there's a vet I know whop is the

best surgeon I ever saw at a vet clinic. But I have no respect for

him :-)

A good doctor makes sure they know what they are on about, especially

with electrolytes, as wrong ones can literally kill overnight - as

happened to my mother.

> But his salt recommendation didn't feel right. For a few days

> before my latest round of bad panic attacks, things had been

> tasting too salty to me.

That's a sure sign of excess salt (aka sodium salt)! And too little

potassium salt.

> When the panic attacks started, I did some research and it seemed

> really clear that I needed potassium. I started taking K

> (potassium) and I felt really good for a day or two until the

> attacks came back.

> There was a period a few years ago when I was taking extra salt

> (sodium) on the advice of a naturopath,

Yikes!

Nobody needs extra sodium.

I do not like the Naturopath profession. They do NOT learn much of

anything IMO as part of their course. Their basic course is usually

about 8 credit hours each of LOT of different professions - so 8 hrs

on herbal, 8 on homeopathy, 8 on each other " modality " and so onl So

the result is they have a smattering of all kinds of things and

NOTHING at a detail level. Yet they often believe they know each area

well..... after all the tests THEY got, were aced by them right?

I far prefer to see someone who knows their specialist area and

knows their limitations. For example a herbalist has in depth YEARS

of training - not just 8 credit hrs - and a homeopath has many years

on homeopathy. The Naturopath has studied both and then some others -

but enough for first aid only IMO. A little knowledge can be a

dangerous thing.

Electrolyte balance is not a hard subject but I cringe when I

hear about supposedly real doctors who do no understand something so

basic.

> after avoiding salt for decades. During that time, the salt did

> help me sleep better and prevented panic attacks and leg cramps.

> There came a time when it didn't work anymore.

Because it was not working - it was putting you into stress mode and

the body handles stress with sodium to some extent (along with

cortisol) till the stress is excessive and your aldosterone and

cortisol get out of whack - - and then it " doesn't work " as you put

it. But sending you into stress mode is not restoring health - it's

like getting you to run on adrenaline - an emergency measure that

should not be used when there are ways to fix what's wrong instead.

Potassium is a nerve nutrient that only works with enough magnesium

also present.l Had you taken those two instead fo sodium it would

have calmed you:-)

Potassium alone can only work if you are not short of magnesium and I

have yet to meet anyone who is not short of magnesium - as it is

leached from farm soil (and thus not in vegetables) -due to fertilizers.

> Is there a pure, natural potassium salt (like Celtic sea salt but

> potassium instead of sodium)?

I hope not.

All the hyole abou Celtic salt is a HUGE waste of oiur money.

Sodiumk is sodium and your body does nto want or need it - from ANy

source. It looks the same to your system whetgher it is " seq salt " or

somne other salt. There is too much sodium for any trace minerals to

be of any use.

If you want trace minerals from the sea, then eat something like

Nori. Don't eat buckets of unhealthy salt in order to get an

insignificant amount of minerals. You do your body a huge disservice.

> Isn't there a lot of sodium in sea vegetables?

No. A sheet of Nori has 0mg sodium salt. It has good potassium.

Nature knows what's good:-)

Some other sea veg has a little more sodium - but none of them has

85% sodium as in Celtic salt!

> Is that a problem? I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda and

> rinsing with salt water in my water pik type appliance. Is that a

> bad idea too?

Skip the salt water.

:-)

>

> I do have noticeable ankle swelling at night which is gone in the

> morning and nose swelling /difficult breathing which is worse when

> I lie down.

Both due to potassium deficiency combined with too much sodium.

> I'm working on lowering stress, but it is difficult.

It will be if you eat salt.

> Most of it is about my financial situation. For years I have been

> fearing running out of money. Now I've done it. I don't know how to

> get more money in my life, but I'm collecting resources like food

> stamps and aid with utility and medical bills and eliminating

> unnecessary expenses.

Me too.

On my best day I can work 2 hrs max.

I sold everything and bought the smallest house I could find on the

internet as a house is a good investment. I did that in 2000 when I

first got so ill, and since then the house I bought for $35,000 has

appreciated to $80,000 and now I can borrow against it to help me

survive. Suggest you do something similar if you did not already.

I knot my own sweaters etc so I can heat only 1 room in winter to 55.

So I know where you aqre coming from. It is not easy being ill and

trying to make ends meet.

How to get more money?

Depends - Are you well enough to work?

If so, find a way to work that suits YOU and uses what YOU know best,

preferably self-employed.

When I got too ill to work, I was consulting at a vet clinic. I

figured what I know is animals and how to help them, but I could not

work regular hrs or at a clinic. So I chose something related I can

do well and enjoy doing (else the stress negates it) - in the hours I

feel up to it that uses my skills. I teach veterinary homeopathy by

email. It is not well paid - $25 per student who passes an exam - but

it helps. And I also do a few consults by email - maybe one a week in

a good week. So my point is that you can go at this from two

directions - one to reduce your overheads in a way you gradually get

into a better position from investment (in a house) and the other way

is to be clever about earning in a way you like and do better than

others, and that suits your health. The self-employed part is

important to me as it means I am not at the beck and call of an

employer, nor can I be fired. Dunno if you feel similarly, but

Explorers generally make great entrepreneurs - and like things their

way:-) This combo is HUGELY de-stressing.

> I find now that dealing with the situation is less stressful than

> fearing it.

Great. And any time it feels overwhelming my suggestion is to break

it into smaller and smaller steps till a step feels doable. I have

had to break it down to 1 minute steps sometimes with my illness, in

order not to feel completely overwhelmed!

> And I'm getting more exercise, which helps.

It lowers cortisol:-)

> The doctor who suggested salt also said to take it with apple cider

> vinegar. What's your take on that?

I'd flush both down the sink:-)

Then feel sorry for the bugs in the septic tank:-)

Then get on with something nutritious. Anti-oxidants are what lower

stress, there are ZERO in that combo - it's like flogging a dead

horse! Or an almost dead one - it may try to stand due to the

flogging, but will then drop dead from stress.

> In January I switched from the BTD to the genotype diet. I am an

> explorer. I felt better for about two weeks and was really enjoying

> the spelt bread

Forget grains - even spelt and any other grains.

Fill up on high antioxidant foods and supplements.

> I haven't been able to find passion fruit or guava; I wish I could.

Except they cost a fortune. So it is a treat thing only as opposed to

a real amount of food.

Where do you live? Can you grow passion fruit? They can't take frost.

Good luck, but can the salt!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

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Why do people who raise animals give them salt blocks?

What is the problem with apple cider vinegar? A lot of people claim it cures

everything.

Are you familiar with Dr. Batmanghelidj? He wrote " Your Body's Many Cries for

Water " and " You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty " . He thinks water cures everything

and a lot of people and doctors I know agree with him. He recommends 1/2 ounce

of water for every pound of body weight and 1/2 teaspoon of salt for each half

gallon of water per day. What do you think of his ideas?

While I'm asking questions, what do you think of trace mineral supplements that

contain everything, including lead, cadmium, aluminum, etc?

You didn't tell me to skip the baking soda. Is it better than salt? What do use

in your tooth rinsing device? How do you keep it from growing things inside the

tubes?

I'm in Oregon. We get lots of frost, so no passionfruit I guess.

What I would really like to do is eat pure whole foods and skip the supplements.

But I'm having trouble getting off them. Every time I cut back, I get some

symptom that seems to demand a supplement.

I've been calling myself self employed for the last two years after

unsuccessfully looking for a job for three years. I love being self employed,

but I don't seem to be great at it. I have a small web design business. I don't

do the fancy stuff, but there should be people out there that just want a simple

site. Right now it's very, very small, because with headaches and panic attacks,

I haven't had the energy to do the marketing I need to do to find them. For me,

marketing takes a lot more energy than building the sites. So I'm looking for

other related but easier things I can do.

Re: Body's first day reaction

On May 3, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bumpas wrote:

> Hi Irene,

> (I hope all this is helpful to somebody else, too)

> The doctor who told me to eat salt is an alternative MD who I have

> had a lot of respect for and who has helped me a lot for over 20

> years. I also worked for him for a while so I know him better than

> just as a patient. I learned a lot as his nurse.

Dear ,

My mother had that kind of respect and liking for her doctor. Same

doctor I had as a kid - so decads of " doctoring " . But he killed her

anyway with bad medical advice. It happened overnight when he decided

she did not need the quite high dose potassium she was taking at my

suggestion. She was dead in day from a massive heart attack due to

lack of potassium.

So it is very important to differentiate between good medical

advice and good friendship. They are separate.

It can also go the other way round - there's a vet I know whop is the

best surgeon I ever saw at a vet clinic. But I have no respect for

him :-)

A good doctor makes sure they know what they are on about, especially

with electrolytes, as wrong ones can literally kill overnight - as

happened to my mother.

> But his salt recommendation didn't feel right. For a few days

> before my latest round of bad panic attacks, things had been

> tasting too salty to me.

That's a sure sign of excess salt (aka sodium salt)! And too little

potassium salt.

> When the panic attacks started, I did some research and it seemed

> really clear that I needed potassium. I started taking K

> (potassium) and I felt really good for a day or two until the

> attacks came back.

> There was a period a few years ago when I was taking extra salt

> (sodium) on the advice of a naturopath,

Yikes!

Nobody needs extra sodium.

I do not like the Naturopath profession. They do NOT learn much of

anything IMO as part of their course. Their basic course is usually

about 8 credit hours each of LOT of different professions - so 8 hrs

on herbal, 8 on homeopathy, 8 on each other " modality " and so onl So

the result is they have a smattering of all kinds of things and

NOTHING at a detail level. Yet they often believe they know each area

well..... after all the tests THEY got, were aced by them right?

I far prefer to see someone who knows their specialist area and

knows their limitations. For example a herbalist has in depth YEARS

of training - not just 8 credit hrs - and a homeopath has many years

on homeopathy. The Naturopath has studied both and then some others -

but enough for first aid only IMO. A little knowledge can be a

dangerous thing.

Electrolyte balance is not a hard subject but I cringe when I

hear about supposedly real doctors who do no understand something so

basic.

> after avoiding salt for decades. During that time, the salt did

> help me sleep better and prevented panic attacks and leg cramps.

> There came a time when it didn't work anymore.

Because it was not working - it was putting you into stress mode and

the body handles stress with sodium to some extent (along with

cortisol) till the stress is excessive and your aldosterone and

cortisol get out of whack - - and then it " doesn't work " as you put

it. But sending you into stress mode is not restoring health - it's

like getting you to run on adrenaline - an emergency measure that

should not be used when there are ways to fix what's wrong instead.

Potassium is a nerve nutrient that only works with enough magnesium

also present.l Had you taken those two instead fo sodium it would

have calmed you:-)

Potassium alone can only work if you are not short of magnesium and I

have yet to meet anyone who is not short of magnesium - as it is

leached from farm soil (and thus not in vegetables) -due to fertilizers.

> Is there a pure, natural potassium salt (like Celtic sea salt but

> potassium instead of sodium)?

I hope not.

All the hyole abou Celtic salt is a HUGE waste of oiur money.

Sodiumk is sodium and your body does nto want or need it - from ANy

source. It looks the same to your system whetgher it is " seq salt " or

somne other salt. There is too much sodium for any trace minerals to

be of any use.

If you want trace minerals from the sea, then eat something like

Nori. Don't eat buckets of unhealthy salt in order to get an

insignificant amount of minerals. You do your body a huge disservice.

> Isn't there a lot of sodium in sea vegetables?

No. A sheet of Nori has 0mg sodium salt. It has good potassium.

Nature knows what's good:-)

Some other sea veg has a little more sodium - but none of them has

85% sodium as in Celtic salt!

> Is that a problem? I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda and

> rinsing with salt water in my water pik type appliance. Is that a

> bad idea too?

Skip the salt water.

:-)

>

> I do have noticeable ankle swelling at night which is gone in the

> morning and nose swelling /difficult breathing which is worse when

> I lie down.

Both due to potassium deficiency combined with too much sodium.

> I'm working on lowering stress, but it is difficult.

It will be if you eat salt.

> Most of it is about my financial situation. For years I have been

> fearing running out of money. Now I've done it. I don't know how to

> get more money in my life, but I'm collecting resources like food

> stamps and aid with utility and medical bills and eliminating

> unnecessary expenses.

Me too.

On my best day I can work 2 hrs max.

I sold everything and bought the smallest house I could find on the

internet as a house is a good investment. I did that in 2000 when I

first got so ill, and since then the house I bought for $35,000 has

appreciated to $80,000 and now I can borrow against it to help me

survive. Suggest you do something similar if you did not already.

I knot my own sweaters etc so I can heat only 1 room in winter to 55.

So I know where you aqre coming from. It is not easy being ill and

trying to make ends meet.

How to get more money?

Depends - Are you well enough to work?

If so, find a way to work that suits YOU and uses what YOU know best,

preferably self-employed.

When I got too ill to work, I was consulting at a vet clinic. I

figured what I know is animals and how to help them, but I could not

work regular hrs or at a clinic. So I chose something related I can

do well and enjoy doing (else the stress negates it) - in the hours I

feel up to it that uses my skills. I teach veterinary homeopathy by

email. It is not well paid - $25 per student who passes an exam - but

it helps. And I also do a few consults by email - maybe one a week in

a good week. So my point is that you can go at this from two

directions - one to reduce your overheads in a way you gradually get

into a better position from investment (in a house) and the other way

is to be clever about earning in a way you like and do better than

others, and that suits your health. The self-employed part is

important to me as it means I am not at the beck and call of an

employer, nor can I be fired. Dunno if you feel similarly, but

Explorers generally make great entrepreneurs - and like things their

way:-) This combo is HUGELY de-stressing.

> I find now that dealing with the situation is less stressful than

> fearing it.

Great. And any time it feels overwhelming my suggestion is to break

it into smaller and smaller steps till a step feels doable. I have

had to break it down to 1 minute steps sometimes with my illness, in

order not to feel completely overwhelmed!

> And I'm getting more exercise, which helps.

It lowers cortisol:-)

> The doctor who suggested salt also said to take it with apple cider

> vinegar. What's your take on that?

I'd flush both down the sink:-)

Then feel sorry for the bugs in the septic tank:-)

Then get on with something nutritious. Anti-oxidants are what lower

stress, there are ZERO in that combo - it's like flogging a dead

horse! Or an almost dead one - it may try to stand due to the

flogging, but will then drop dead from stress.

> In January I switched from the BTD to the genotype diet. I am an

> explorer. I felt better for about two weeks and was really enjoying

> the spelt bread

Forget grains - even spelt and any other grains.

Fill up on high antioxidant foods and supplements.

> I haven't been able to find passion fruit or guava; I wish I could.

Except they cost a fortune. So it is a treat thing only as opposed to

a real amount of food.

Where do you live? Can you grow passion fruit? They can't take frost.

Good luck, but can the salt!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

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,

I can't respond to what Irene was saying. But I can give you some of my

experience.

For many years I used apple cider vinegar (and HCL supplement) and it was

the only thing that help some of my digestive/nutritional issues. BUT, as

it turns out it was a treatment. When the real problem was fixed (spinal

misalignment in my neck) then the vinegar was no longer needed and actually

caused problems.

So, this is where you get down to individual need. What is your need at the

time, what works for you, that's what counts. There are situations that

require salt, it's just not common for humans.

You mentioned that somethings helped and then didn't. There is your

answer. If it's not working it's not what you need. Then you have to look

from another direction for the answer.

And for the most nutrient rich way to eat -- Green smoothies. If you are

interested I'll give you more details. I have *had to eliminate* most of my

supplements since doing the smoothies.

Kathy

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:31 PM, Bumpas <lindabumpas@...>

wrote:

> Why do people who raise animals give them salt blocks?

> What is the problem with apple cider vinegar? A lot of people claim it

> cures everything.

> Are you familiar with Dr. Batmanghelidj? He wrote " Your Body's Many Cries

> for Water " and " You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty " . He thinks water cures

> everything and a lot of people and doctors I know agree with him. He

> recommends 1/2 ounce of water for every pound of body weight and 1/2

> teaspoon of salt for each half gallon of water per day. What do you think of

> his ideas?

> While I'm asking questions, what do you think of trace mineral supplements

> that contain everything, including lead, cadmium, aluminum, etc?

> You didn't tell me to skip the baking soda. Is it better than salt? What

> do use in your tooth rinsing device? How do you keep it from growing things

> inside the tubes?

> I'm in Oregon. We get lots of frost, so no passionfruit I guess.

> What I would really like to do is eat pure whole foods and skip the

> supplements. But I'm having trouble getting off them. Every time I cut back,

> I get some symptom that seems to demand a supplement.

> I've been calling myself self employed for the last two years after

> unsuccessfully looking for a job for three years. I love being self

> employed, but I don't seem to be great at it. I have a small web design

> business. I don't do the fancy stuff, but there should be people out there

> that just want a simple site. Right now it's very, very small, because with

> headaches and panic attacks, I haven't had the energy to do the marketing I

> need to do to find them. For me, marketing takes a lot more energy than

> building the sites. So I'm looking for other related but easier things I can

> do.

>

>

>

> Re: Body's first day reaction

>

> On May 3, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bumpas wrote:

>

> > Hi Irene,

> > (I hope all this is helpful to somebody else, too)

> > The doctor who told me to eat salt is an alternative MD who I have

> > had a lot of respect for and who has helped me a lot for over 20

> > years. I also worked for him for a while so I know him better than

> > just as a patient. I learned a lot as his nurse.

>

> Dear ,

> My mother had that kind of respect and liking for her doctor. Same

> doctor I had as a kid - so decads of " doctoring " . But he killed her

> anyway with bad medical advice. It happened overnight when he decided

> she did not need the quite high dose potassium she was taking at my

> suggestion. She was dead in day from a massive heart attack due to

> lack of potassium.

> So it is very important to differentiate between good medical

> advice and good friendship. They are separate.

> It can also go the other way round - there's a vet I know whop is the

> best surgeon I ever saw at a vet clinic. But I have no respect for

> him :-)

>

> A good doctor makes sure they know what they are on about, especially

> with electrolytes, as wrong ones can literally kill overnight - as

> happened to my mother.

>

> > But his salt recommendation didn't feel right. For a few days

> > before my latest round of bad panic attacks, things had been

> > tasting too salty to me.

>

> That's a sure sign of excess salt (aka sodium salt)! And too little

> potassium salt.

>

> > When the panic attacks started, I did some research and it seemed

> > really clear that I needed potassium. I started taking K

> > (potassium) and I felt really good for a day or two until the

> > attacks came back.

> > There was a period a few years ago when I was taking extra salt

> > (sodium) on the advice of a naturopath,

>

> Yikes!

> Nobody needs extra sodium.

> I do not like the Naturopath profession. They do NOT learn much of

> anything IMO as part of their course. Their basic course is usually

> about 8 credit hours each of LOT of different professions - so 8 hrs

> on herbal, 8 on homeopathy, 8 on each other " modality " and so onl So

> the result is they have a smattering of all kinds of things and

> NOTHING at a detail level. Yet they often believe they know each area

> well..... after all the tests THEY got, were aced by them right?

> I far prefer to see someone who knows their specialist area and

> knows their limitations. For example a herbalist has in depth YEARS

> of training - not just 8 credit hrs - and a homeopath has many years

> on homeopathy. The Naturopath has studied both and then some others -

> but enough for first aid only IMO. A little knowledge can be a

> dangerous thing.

> Electrolyte balance is not a hard subject but I cringe when I

> hear about supposedly real doctors who do no understand something so

> basic.

>

> > after avoiding salt for decades. During that time, the salt did

> > help me sleep better and prevented panic attacks and leg cramps.

> > There came a time when it didn't work anymore.

>

> Because it was not working - it was putting you into stress mode and

> the body handles stress with sodium to some extent (along with

> cortisol) till the stress is excessive and your aldosterone and

> cortisol get out of whack - - and then it " doesn't work " as you put

> it. But sending you into stress mode is not restoring health - it's

> like getting you to run on adrenaline - an emergency measure that

> should not be used when there are ways to fix what's wrong instead.

> Potassium is a nerve nutrient that only works with enough magnesium

> also present.l Had you taken those two instead fo sodium it would

> have calmed you:-)

> Potassium alone can only work if you are not short of magnesium and I

> have yet to meet anyone who is not short of magnesium - as it is

> leached from farm soil (and thus not in vegetables) -due to fertilizers.

>

> > Is there a pure, natural potassium salt (like Celtic sea salt but

> > potassium instead of sodium)?

>

> I hope not.

> All the hyole abou Celtic salt is a HUGE waste of oiur money.

> Sodiumk is sodium and your body does nto want or need it - from ANy

> source. It looks the same to your system whetgher it is " seq salt " or

> somne other salt. There is too much sodium for any trace minerals to

> be of any use.

>

> If you want trace minerals from the sea, then eat something like

> Nori. Don't eat buckets of unhealthy salt in order to get an

> insignificant amount of minerals. You do your body a huge disservice.

>

> > Isn't there a lot of sodium in sea vegetables?

>

> No. A sheet of Nori has 0mg sodium salt. It has good potassium.

> Nature knows what's good:-)

> Some other sea veg has a little more sodium - but none of them has

> 85% sodium as in Celtic salt!

>

> > Is that a problem? I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda and

> > rinsing with salt water in my water pik type appliance. Is that a

> > bad idea too?

>

> Skip the salt water.

> :-)

> >

>

> > I do have noticeable ankle swelling at night which is gone in the

> > morning and nose swelling /difficult breathing which is worse when

> > I lie down.

>

> Both due to potassium deficiency combined with too much sodium.

>

> > I'm working on lowering stress, but it is difficult.

>

> It will be if you eat salt.

>

> > Most of it is about my financial situation. For years I have been

> > fearing running out of money. Now I've done it. I don't know how to

> > get more money in my life, but I'm collecting resources like food

> > stamps and aid with utility and medical bills and eliminating

> > unnecessary expenses.

>

> Me too.

> On my best day I can work 2 hrs max.

> I sold everything and bought the smallest house I could find on the

> internet as a house is a good investment. I did that in 2000 when I

> first got so ill, and since then the house I bought for $35,000 has

> appreciated to $80,000 and now I can borrow against it to help me

> survive. Suggest you do something similar if you did not already.

> I knot my own sweaters etc so I can heat only 1 room in winter to 55.

> So I know where you aqre coming from. It is not easy being ill and

> trying to make ends meet.

>

> How to get more money?

> Depends - Are you well enough to work?

> If so, find a way to work that suits YOU and uses what YOU know best,

> preferably self-employed.

> When I got too ill to work, I was consulting at a vet clinic. I

> figured what I know is animals and how to help them, but I could not

> work regular hrs or at a clinic. So I chose something related I can

> do well and enjoy doing (else the stress negates it) - in the hours I

> feel up to it that uses my skills. I teach veterinary homeopathy by

> email. It is not well paid - $25 per student who passes an exam - but

> it helps. And I also do a few consults by email - maybe one a week in

> a good week. So my point is that you can go at this from two

> directions - one to reduce your overheads in a way you gradually get

> into a better position from investment (in a house) and the other way

> is to be clever about earning in a way you like and do better than

> others, and that suits your health. The self-employed part is

> important to me as it means I am not at the beck and call of an

> employer, nor can I be fired. Dunno if you feel similarly, but

> Explorers generally make great entrepreneurs - and like things their

> way:-) This combo is HUGELY de-stressing.

>

> > I find now that dealing with the situation is less stressful than

> > fearing it.

>

> Great. And any time it feels overwhelming my suggestion is to break

> it into smaller and smaller steps till a step feels doable. I have

> had to break it down to 1 minute steps sometimes with my illness, in

> order not to feel completely overwhelmed!

>

> > And I'm getting more exercise, which helps.

>

> It lowers cortisol:-)

>

> > The doctor who suggested salt also said to take it with apple cider

> > vinegar. What's your take on that?

>

> I'd flush both down the sink:-)

> Then feel sorry for the bugs in the septic tank:-)

> Then get on with something nutritious. Anti-oxidants are what lower

> stress, there are ZERO in that combo - it's like flogging a dead

> horse! Or an almost dead one - it may try to stand due to the

> flogging, but will then drop dead from stress.

>

> > In January I switched from the BTD to the genotype diet. I am an

> > explorer. I felt better for about two weeks and was really enjoying

> > the spelt bread

>

> Forget grains - even spelt and any other grains.

> Fill up on high antioxidant foods and supplements.

>

> > I haven't been able to find passion fruit or guava; I wish I could.

>

> Except they cost a fortune. So it is a treat thing only as opposed to

> a real amount of food.

> Where do you live? Can you grow passion fruit? They can't take frost.

>

> Good luck, but can the salt!

> Namaste,

> Irene

>

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

> __________________________________________________________

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> know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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>

[Guest guest]

 I would much prefer green smoothies to handfuls of pills. I would like the

details. Is it expensive to make the smoothies?

Re: Body's first day reaction

>

> On May 3, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Bumpas wrote:

>

> > Hi Irene,

> > (I hope all this is helpful to somebody else, too)

> > The doctor who told me to eat salt is an alternative MD who I have

> > had a lot of respect for and who has helped me a lot for over 20

> > years. I also worked for him for a while so I know him better than

> > just as a patient. I learned a lot as his nurse.

>

> Dear ,

> My mother had that kind of respect and liking for her doctor. Same

> doctor I had as a kid - so decads of " doctoring " . But he killed her

> anyway with bad medical advice. It happened overnight when he decided

> she did not need the quite high dose potassium she was taking at my

> suggestion. She was dead in day from a massive heart attack due to

> lack of potassium.

> So it is very important to differentiate between good medical

> advice and good friendship. They are separate.

> It can also go the other way round - there's a vet I know whop is the

> best surgeon I ever saw at a vet clinic. But I have no respect for

> him :-)

>

> A good doctor makes sure they know what they are on about, especially

> with electrolytes, as wrong ones can literally kill overnight - as

> happened to my mother.

>

> > But his salt recommendation didn't feel right. For a few days

> > before my latest round of bad panic attacks, things had been

> > tasting too salty to me.

>

> That's a sure sign of excess salt (aka sodium salt)! And too little

> potassium salt.

>

> > When the panic attacks started, I did some research and it seemed

> > really clear that I needed potassium. I started taking K

> > (potassium) and I felt really good for a day or two until the

> > attacks came back.

> > There was a period a few years ago when I was taking extra salt

> > (sodium) on the advice of a naturopath,

>

> Yikes!

> Nobody needs extra sodium.

> I do not like the Naturopath profession. They do NOT learn much of

> anything IMO as part of their course. Their basic course is usually

> about 8 credit hours each of LOT of different professions - so 8 hrs

> on herbal, 8 on homeopathy, 8 on each other " modality " and so onl So

> the result is they have a smattering of all kinds of things and

> NOTHING at a detail level. Yet they often believe they know each area

> well..... after all the tests THEY got, were aced by them right?

> I far prefer to see someone who knows their specialist area and

> knows their limitations. For example a herbalist has in depth YEARS

> of training - not just 8 credit hrs - and a homeopath has many years

> on homeopathy. The Naturopath has studied both and then some others -

> but enough for first aid only IMO. A little knowledge can be a

> dangerous thing.

> Electrolyte balance is not a hard subject but I cringe when I

> hear about supposedly real doctors who do no understand something so

> basic.

>

> > after avoiding salt for decades. During that time, the salt did

> > help me sleep better and prevented panic attacks and leg cramps.

> > There came a time when it didn't work anymore.

>

> Because it was not working - it was putting you into stress mode and

> the body handles stress with sodium to some extent (along with

> cortisol) till the stress is excessive and your aldosterone and

> cortisol get out of whack - - and then it " doesn't work " as you put

> it. But sending you into stress mode is not restoring health - it's

> like getting you to run on adrenaline - an emergency measure that

> should not be used when there are ways to fix what's wrong instead.

> Potassium is a nerve nutrient that only works with enough magnesium

> also present.l Had you taken those two instead fo sodium it would

> have calmed you:-)

> Potassium alone can only work if you are not short of magnesium and I

> have yet to meet anyone who is not short of magnesium - as it is

> leached from farm soil (and thus not in vegetables) -due to fertilizers.

>

> > Is there a pure, natural potassium salt (like Celtic sea salt but

> > potassium instead of sodium)?

>

> I hope not.

> All the hyole abou Celtic salt is a HUGE waste of oiur money.

> Sodiumk is sodium and your body does nto want or need it - from ANy

> source. It looks the same to your system whetgher it is " seq salt " or

> somne other salt. There is too much sodium for any trace minerals to

> be of any use.

>

> If you want trace minerals from the sea, then eat something like

> Nori. Don't eat buckets of unhealthy salt in order to get an

> insignificant amount of minerals. You do your body a huge disservice.

>

> > Isn't there a lot of sodium in sea vegetables?

>

> No. A sheet of Nori has 0mg sodium salt. It has good potassium.

> Nature knows what's good:-)

> Some other sea veg has a little more sodium - but none of them has

> 85% sodium as in Celtic salt!

>

> > Is that a problem? I've been brushing my teeth with baking soda and

> > rinsing with salt water in my water pik type appliance. Is that a

> > bad idea too?

>

> Skip the salt water.

> :-)

> >

>

> > I do have noticeable ankle swelling at night which is gone in the

> > morning and nose swelling /difficult breathing which is worse when

> > I lie down.

>

> Both due to potassium deficiency combined with too much sodium.

>

> > I'm working on lowering stress, but it is difficult.

>

> It will be if you eat salt.

>

> > Most of it is about my financial situation. For years I have been

> > fearing running out of money. Now I've done it. I don't know how to

> > get more money in my life, but I'm collecting resources like food

> > stamps and aid with utility and medical bills and eliminating

> > unnecessary expenses.

>

> Me too.

> On my best day I can work 2 hrs max.

> I sold everything and bought the smallest house I could find on the

> internet as a house is a good investment. I did that in 2000 when I

> first got so ill, and since then the house I bought for $35,000 has

> appreciated to $80,000 and now I can borrow against it to help me

> survive. Suggest you do something similar if you did not already.

> I knot my own sweaters etc so I can heat only 1 room in winter to 55.

> So I know where you aqre coming from. It is not easy being ill and

> trying to make ends meet.

>

> How to get more money?

> Depends - Are you well enough to work?

> If so, find a way to work that suits YOU and uses what YOU know best,

> preferably self-employed.

> When I got too ill to work, I was consulting at a vet clinic. I

> figured what I know is animals and how to help them, but I could not

> work regular hrs or at a clinic. So I chose something related I can

> do well and enjoy doing (else the stress negates it) - in the hours I

> feel up to it that uses my skills. I teach veterinary homeopathy by

> email. It is not well paid - $25 per student who passes an exam - but

> it helps. And I also do a few consults by email - maybe one a week in

> a good week. So my point is that you can go at this from two

> directions - one to reduce your overheads in a way you gradually get

> into a better position from investment (in a house) and the other way

> is to be clever about earning in a way you like and do better than

> others, and that suits your health. The self-employed part is

> important to me as it means I am not at the beck and call of an

> employer, nor can I be fired. Dunno if you feel similarly, but

> Explorers generally make great entrepreneurs - and like things their

> way:-) This combo is HUGELY de-stressing.

>

> > I find now that dealing with the situation is less stressful than

> > fearing it.

>

> Great. And any time it feels overwhelming my suggestion is to break

> it into smaller and smaller steps till a step feels doable. I have

> had to break it down to 1 minute steps sometimes with my illness, in

> order not to feel completely overwhelmed!

>

> > And I'm getting more exercise, which helps.

>

> It lowers cortisol:-)

>

> > The doctor who suggested salt also said to take it with apple cider

> > vinegar. What's your take on that?

>

> I'd flush both down the sink:-)

> Then feel sorry for the bugs in the septic tank:-)

> Then get on with something nutritious. Anti-oxidants are what lower

> stress, there are ZERO in that combo - it's like flogging a dead

> horse! Or an almost dead one - it may try to stand due to the

> flogging, but will then drop dead from stress.

>

> > In January I switched from the BTD to the genotype diet. I am an

> > explorer. I felt better for about two weeks and was really enjoying

> > the spelt bread

>

> Forget grains - even spelt and any other grains.

> Fill up on high antioxidant foods and supplements.

>

> > I haven't been able to find passion fruit or guava; I wish I could.

>

> Except they cost a fortune. So it is a treat thing only as opposed to

> a real amount of food.

> Where do you live? Can you grow passion fruit? They can't take frost.

>

> Good luck, but can the salt!

> Namaste,

> Irene

>

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Be a better friend, newshound, and

> know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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>

[Guest guest]

On May 12, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Bumpas wrote:

> I would much prefer green smoothies to handfuls of pills. I would

> like the details.

Me too please!

......Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

On May 12, 2008, at 9:42 AM, s wrote:

> ,

> I can't respond to what Irene was saying. But I can give you some

> of my

> experience.

>

> For many years I used apple cider vinegar (and HCL supplement) and

> it was

> the only thing that help some of my digestive/nutritional issues.

It adds acid, suggesting you were not producing enough for good

digestion - for whatever reason.

> BUT, as

> it turns out it was a treatment. When the real problem was fixed

> (spinal

> misalignment in my neck) then the vinegar was no longer needed and

> actually

> caused problems.

Always great to fix the CAUSE rather than just to treat the symptoms:-)

If you can *find* and treat it that is.

> So, this is where you get down to individual need. What is your

> need at the

> time, what works for you, that's what counts. There are situations

> that

> require salt, it's just not common for humans.

Not many! MOST OF THE TIME WHEN A HUMAN CRAVES SALT, IT IS POTASSIUM

SALT THEY ARE CRAVING. WE DO NOT SEEM TO BE ABLE TO DIFFERENTIATE

BETWEEN CRAVING POTASSIUM SALT AND CRAVING SODIUM SALT.

Oops sorry re the caploc accident.

This issue - if it recurs often - is however easy to resolve with a

simple blood electrolyte lab test for sodium and potassium.

But easier still is to measure blood pressure. Sodium sends it up -

potassium brings it down.

> You mentioned that somethings helped and then didn't. There is your

> answer.

Not necessarily. You can dangerously mask what you need (potassium)

with a stop-gap item (sodium) that causes hidden damage - while

stressing your system into functioning in stress (emergency mode) -

as sodium can do.

Sodium and potassium are not something to mess and guess with - they

are critical basic items that HAVE to be balanced.

Think how our ancestors lived - they ate fruit and it is loaded with

potassium not sodium.

Meat has some sodium but not a lot, like 100mg.

Sadly human so-called food is a baddie here. Check the sodium on any

can of soup - even the supposed low sodium, ones. It has several

days' supply in one measly little serving!

Getting too much sodium causes untold hormonal consequences with

aldosterone dropping through the floor to try to compensate, and

renin going haywire to cope, leading to cortisol increase, blood

pressure increase, insulin increase, diabetes increase, edema and

other imbalances including central fat deposition and on and on....

It's hard to get too little sodium. It's easy to get low on potassium.

It is possible to lose too much sodium if you run a marathon of 86

miles in Florida weather - but even then you will run out of

potassium long before you run out of sodium - regardless how much

water you drink. It's why marathon runners have potassium supplements

or eat bananas or drink red grapefruit juice etc on the way.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

On May 11, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Bumpas wrote:

> Why do people who raise animals give them salt blocks?

" Salt blocks " are supposed to give multiple mineral salts (not just

the salt of sodium) to the animal. But sodium salt is added to them

for what I consider wrong reasons - one being to hide the taste of

minerals like magnesium oxide (a poor cheap form of magnesium) and

the other reason is to prevent overeating and excess mineral

consumption (mainly to save money) - as animals will stop eating the

blocks after they ingest enough salt!

There's a better way to provide minerals to animals :-)

> What is the problem with apple cider vinegar? A lot of people

claim it cures everything.

It can't of course:-)

It's just dilute acetic acid with a few apple molecules thrown in for

flavor.

> Are you familiar with Dr. Batmanghelidj? He wrote " Your Body's Many

> Cries for Water " and " You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty " .

Up to a point this is true, in that you can not get toxins out of

your body unless there is enough water to dissolve them in.

But you also need healthy cell walls as then they flex to let the

toxins out (and the nutrients in). Stiff cell walls (eg damaged by

sugar) can not flex, and will keep in the toxins however much water

you drink.

> He thinks water cures everything and a lot of people and doctors I

> know agree with him. He recommends 1/2 ounce of water for every

> pound of body weight and 1/2 teaspoon of salt for each half gallon

> of water per day. What do you think of his ideas?

The salt part is crazy.

Add potassium salt not sodium salt.

The drink plenty water is valid - along wiht making sure the diet is

cell-wall healthy.

> While I'm asking questions, what do you think of trace mineral

> supplements that contain everything, including lead, cadmium,

> aluminum, etc?

Well since aluminum causes Alzheimer's I'm not too keen:-)

I have enough memory issues from cortisol without more.

My idea of mineral supplementing minerals is to use a general one

like Nori (seaweed without sodium, but with potassium).

plus specifics for whatever illness you have. For example my messed

up immune system needs vanadium and my messed up thyroid needs

selenium and my inherited kidney switch gene defect needs magnesium

and potassium - so I supplement those.

> You didn't tell me to skip the baking soda.

I use it on my electric toothbrush instead of toothpaste. But that's

not ingesting it. A tiny bit absorbed by just being there in the

mouth is no big deal.

> What do use in your tooth rinsing device?

Tooth rinsing device?

After brushing and ordinary rinsing with water, I use a Hydrofloss to

clean under the gums and discourage gum problems (rememebr I have no

immune system and so my mouth needs extra care to keep bacteria

controlled) . That only needs warm water. It ionizes the water

itself. I sure do not add anything to it!

> How do you keep it from growing things inside the tubes?

What things are going to grow without food?

Nothing grows without food. If your Hydrofloss gets fresh water daily

for use where's the junk to eat?

I see no problem.

> I'm in Oregon. We get lots of frost, so no passionfruit I guess.

I'm in Spokane:-)

Way further north than any other contiguous US city:-)

It would not grow here either but one local store imports it from New

Zealand:-)

Costs a fortune, so it's a special treat.

> What I would really like to do is eat pure whole foods and skip the

> supplements.

No can do. The planet can't produce them, and they disappear on

transport and over time. And modern life is too polluted to get by

without supplements.

Don't knock supplements - these day we need them like cars need fuel:-)

Just keep learning how to choose them wisely for YOUR needs.

> I've been calling myself self employed for the last two years after

> unsuccessfully looking for a job for three years. I love being self

> employed, but I don't seem to be great at it. I have a small web

> design business. I don't do the fancy stuff, but there should be

> people out there that just want a simple site.

Then your trick is to tell them what you have and what it costs -

basically your difficulty is in finding them.

Did you do any business training? One principle of business is that

it is 80% advertising and 20% the actual work.

So just plan accordingly.

One thing you could do and are not doing is to have a website link on

your email signature and to state a slogan related to simple cost-

effective web design.

That is not advertising per TOS so it is not a violation.

Explain what you do at the website. YOUR website is the one that

needs to pull in the business. Make sure it is there to do so!

If I do a google on " simple web design " will I find your website

telling me what you can do for me? If not why not?

> Right now it's very, very small, because with headaches and panic

> attacks, I haven't had the energy to do the marketing I need to do

> to find them.

That is what the internet is for - to do your marketing via google:-)

That and email lists I run where I give free advice in my

professional area - do you have one for simple web design yet - are

how I get my clients. They like my free advice and come off list for

more:-)

> For me, marketing takes a lot more energy than building the sites.

Just build YOUR site:-)

> So I'm looking for other related but easier things I can do.

Sell advice subscriptions - like so many bucks for so many simple web

site questions on how-to.

Or start a school of simple web design for do-it-yourselfers.

Or a bit of each for variety.

Or whatever your innovative Explorer self can devise:-)

Take a few days off somewhere gorgeous to just do " blue sky

thinking " , and it will come to you.

Think " What to I LOVE doing? " List everything including what you did

as a child before puberty.

" What am I good at doing? "

" What can I do that others do not have time, energy or knowledge to

do and want "

Look for an overlap.

Namaste,

Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

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What is a cell wall healthy diet?

What things are going to grow without food? What  is the green stuff that grows

after a while in water bottles that have never contained anything but water?

Couldn't something similar grow in the reservoir or tubes of an oral irrigator?

Why are we told to disinfect humidifiers weekly? Because they never dry out? I'm

sure the oral irrigator tubes never dry out either.

Re: Body's first day reaction

On May 11, 2008, at 8:31 PM, Bumpas wrote:

> Why do people who raise animals give them salt blocks?

" Salt blocks " are supposed to give multiple mineral salts (not just

the salt of sodium) to the animal. But sodium salt is added to them

for what I consider wrong reasons - one being to hide the taste of

minerals like magnesium oxide (a poor cheap form of magnesium) and

the other reason is to prevent overeating and excess mineral

consumption (mainly to save money) - as animals will stop eating the

blocks after they ingest enough salt!

There's a better way to provide minerals to animals :-)

> What is the problem with apple cider vinegar? A lot of people

claim it cures everything.

It can't of course:-)

It's just dilute acetic acid with a few apple molecules thrown in for

flavor.

> Are you familiar with Dr. Batmanghelidj? He wrote " Your Body's Many

> Cries for Water " and " You're Not Sick, You're Thirsty " .

Up to a point this is true, in that you can not get toxins out of

your body unless there is enough water to dissolve them in.

But you also need healthy cell walls as then they flex to let the

toxins out (and the nutrients in). Stiff cell walls (eg damaged by

sugar) can not flex, and will keep in the toxins however much water

you drink.

> He thinks water cures everything and a lot of people and doctors I

> know agree with him. He recommends 1/2 ounce of water for every

> pound of body weight and 1/2 teaspoon of salt for each half gallon

> of water per day. What do you think of his ideas?

The salt part is crazy.

Add potassium salt not sodium salt.

The drink plenty water is valid - along wiht making sure the diet is

cell-wall healthy.

> While I'm asking questions, what do you think of trace mineral

> supplements that contain everything, including lead, cadmium,

> aluminum, etc?

Well since aluminum causes Alzheimer's I'm not too keen:-)

I have enough memory issues from cortisol without more.

My idea of mineral supplementing minerals is to use a general one

like Nori (seaweed without sodium, but with potassium).

plus specifics for whatever illness you have. For example my messed

up immune system needs vanadium and my messed up thyroid needs

selenium and my inherited kidney switch gene defect needs magnesium

and potassium - so I supplement those.

> You didn't tell me to skip the baking soda.

I use it on my electric toothbrush instead of toothpaste. But that's

not ingesting it. A tiny bit absorbed by just being there in the

mouth is no big deal.

> What do use in your tooth rinsing device?

Tooth rinsing device?

After brushing and ordinary rinsing with water, I use a Hydrofloss to

clean under the gums and discourage gum problems (rememebr I have no

immune system and so my mouth needs extra care to keep bacteria

controlled) . That only needs warm water. It ionizes the water

itself. I sure do not add anything to it!

> How do you keep it from growing things inside the tubes?

What things are going to grow without food?

Nothing grows without food. If your Hydrofloss gets fresh water daily

for use where's the junk to eat?

I see no problem.

> I'm in Oregon. We get lots of frost, so no passionfruit I guess.

I'm in Spokane:-)

Way further north than any other contiguous US city:-)

It would not grow here either but one local store imports it from New

Zealand:-)

Costs a fortune, so it's a special treat.

> What I would really like to do is eat pure whole foods and skip the

> supplements.

No can do. The planet can't produce them, and they disappear on

transport and over time. And modern life is too polluted to get by

without supplements.

Don't knock supplements - these day we need them like cars need fuel:-)

Just keep learning how to choose them wisely for YOUR needs.

> I've been calling myself self employed for the last two years after

> unsuccessfully looking for a job for three years. I love being self

> employed, but I don't seem to be great at it. I have a small web

> design business. I don't do the fancy stuff, but there should be

> people out there that just want a simple site.

Then your trick is to tell them what you have and what it costs -

basically your difficulty is in finding them.

Did you do any business training? One principle of business is that

it is 80% advertising and 20% the actual work.

So just plan accordingly.

One thing you could do and are not doing is to have a website link on

your email signature and to state a slogan related to simple cost-

effective web design.

That is not advertising per TOS so it is not a violation.

Explain what you do at the website. YOUR website is the one that

needs to pull in the business. Make sure it is there to do so!

If I do a google on " simple web design " will I find your website

telling me what you can do for me? If not why not?

> Right now it's very, very small, because with headaches and panic

> attacks, I haven't had the energy to do the marketing I need to do

> to find them.

That is what the internet is for - to do your marketing via google:-)

That and email lists I run where I give free advice in my

professional area - do you have one for simple web design yet - are

how I get my clients. They like my free advice and come off list for

more:-)

> For me, marketing takes a lot more energy than building the sites.

Just build YOUR site:-)

> So I'm looking for other related but easier things I can do.

Sell advice subscriptions - like so many bucks for so many simple web

site questions on how-to.

Or start a school of simple web design for do-it-yourselfers.

Or a bit of each for variety.

Or whatever your innovative Explorer self can devise:-)

Take a few days off somewhere gorgeous to just do " blue sky

thinking " , and it will come to you.

Think " What to I LOVE doing? " List everything including what you did

as a child before puberty.

" What am I good at doing? "

" What can I do that others do not have time, energy or knowledge to

do and want "

Look for an overlap.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "