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Hi Barbara,

Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on the

genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at horseybarbie@

. You should also be able to join by going to

Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on join.

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> For people who want to figure out their genotype and try the diet, we have

> started a genotype group: Genotype_Diet- subscribe

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I couldn't find this group at . Is it Genotype_Diet ?

Barbara

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Just so you know: I have the book and was hoping to join the group to help

me figure out which Genotype I am. However, the moderator will NOT let you

join if you don't already know your genotype. I was really disappointed in

that. I'm hoping someone starts another, more friendly group.

Jean

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Hi Barbara,

Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on the

genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on

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only problem is you're allowed to join the group until you've read the book.

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> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on the

genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at horseybarbie@

. You should also be able to join by going to

Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on join.

>

>

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I've read the book...and they still wouldn't let me join. Too bad they are

willing to help people make sure they have the right Genotype...

Jean

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only problem is you're allowed to join the group until you've read the

book.

>

>

>

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on

the genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on

join.

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>

>

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I've read the book...and they still wouldn't let me join. Too bad they are

willing to help people make sure they have the right Genotype...

Jean

Re: Genotype diet?

only problem is you're allowed to join the group until you've read the

book.

>

>

>

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on

the genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on

join.

>

>

>

>

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If you want to watch the YouTube videos and measure your leg and torso lengths

and your upper and lower leg lengths and your index and ring finger lengths, I

can look up your genotype for you based on that information and your blood type

and secretor status if you know that. You'll want the book for the food lists

and general information, but you could get started until you get the book. The

food lists hopefully will eventually be on the website, but they don't seem to

be on yet.

Re: Genotype diet?

only problem is you're allowed to join the group until you've read the book.

>

>

>

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on the

genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at horseybarbie@

. You should also be able to join by going to http://health.

groups.. com/group/ Genotype_ Diet/join and clicking on join.

>

>

>

>

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On Thu, January 10, 2008 8:49 am, Bumpas wrote:

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam,

That does not avoid spam. It avoids legitimate members:-)

A list does not need to be unlisted to avoid spam, they just need to

moderate new members and approve new members. How are legitimate people

supposed to find an unlisted list!!!!

Unlisting is intended for adult lists and closed lists (like ones within a

business or school).

> but we welcome members working on the

> genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

> horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

> Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on

> join.

I dunno about that - I sent a joining email, got a query from someone,

Nina I think though they failed to identify who they were - moderator or

owner or ? I asked and bothered to send quite a bit of detail about myself

in response to questions (questions that really ought to be my business

not theirs) - but I got no response, so I can't say it's a friendly lot

as it is here.

Pity!

Here I really appreciate that one can join the list, ask questions and get

opinions BEFORE outlaying money anywhere. I get less than $500 income a

month so it matters.

This new gene list is a control and money-related list. They want to

control what I buy BEFORE I ask questions - I'm not into that kind of

thing. I need MY brain to decide what to buy - not theirs:-)

Disappointed in the lack of available OPEN thinking list on gene type diet.

So I'll stick with this list and try to contribute a fair share here even

if it is not financial:-)

If someone starts an OPEN gene type list (by which i mean one which has no

attempt to control how memebers spend time and money) please let me know?

Namaste,

Irene

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I appreciate what you are saying; I like openness and money is a big issue. I

also think I understand where Nina is coming from.

I have the book and I'm willing (unless it gets overwhelming) to answer

questions and look up genotypes if anybody wants to take the necessary

measurements and give me the information.

The genotypes are based on a number of things, including blood type, secretor

status, Rh status, and a number of physical measurements, which need to be done

in certain ways. You really need to watch the YouTube videos to learn how they

want the measurements done; it's easy to do them in a different way and end up

with inaccurate information.

To narrow it down a bit, type Os can only be hunters, gatherers, or explorers.

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On Thu, January 10, 2008 8:49 am, Bumpas wrote:

> Hi Barbara,

>

> Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

>

> The group is unlisted to avoid spam,

That does not avoid spam. It avoids legitimate members:-)

A list does not need to be unlisted to avoid spam, they just need to

moderate new members and approve new members. How are legitimate people

supposed to find an unlisted list!!!!

Unlisting is intended for adult lists and closed lists (like ones within a

business or school).

> but we welcome members working on the

> genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

> horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

> http://health. groups.. com/group/ Genotype_ Diet/join and clicking on

> join.

I dunno about that - I sent a joining email, got a query from someone,

Nina I think though they failed to identify who they were - moderator or

owner or ? I asked and bothered to send quite a bit of detail about myself

in response to questions (questions that really ought to be my business

not theirs) - but I got no response, so I can't say it's a friendly lot

as it is here.

Pity!

Here I really appreciate that one can join the list, ask questions and get

opinions BEFORE outlaying money anywhere. I get less than $500 income a

month so it matters.

This new gene list is a control and money-related list. They want to

control what I buy BEFORE I ask questions - I'm not into that kind of

thing. I need MY brain to decide what to buy - not theirs:-)

Disappointed in the lack of available OPEN thinking list on gene type diet.

So I'll stick with this list and try to contribute a fair share here even

if it is not financial:-)

If someone starts an OPEN gene type list (by which i mean one which has no

attempt to control how memebers spend time and money) please let me know?

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

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I don't think the book talks about children specifically. But that is an

interesting question; the measurements the determination is based on will keep

changing with children as they grow. The moderator of the GTD group has a

daughter and she has determined her daughter's genotype. I will ask her about it

and let you know what I find out.

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I have the book reserved for me from our library, so I'll be reading it shortly.

But I'm curious in the meantime: does it speak at all to the needs of children?

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Bumpas wrote:

> I don't think the book talks about children specifically. But that is

an interesting question; the measurements the determination is based on

will keep changing with children as they grow. The moderator of the GTD

group has a daughter and she has determined her daughter's genotype. I

will ask her about it and let you know what I find out.

Dear ,

I am not sure if I know enough about the gene diet system to comment,

but genetics is my field as is constitutional type (involving body

proportions among other characteristics).

So I can say with confidence that constitutional type is there at

birth - so the body proportions are there from the get-go as well.

So even though *measurements* change - the ratios are there.

As an example my own two sons, both very tall type O blond with blue eyes:

One is constitutionally an Arsenicum album (ars-alb) type - he has a

long body and very powerful but slender muscles. Longish legs, not too

long, and relatively short arms for his body - big feet(size 15.5) and

hands. No bum to hold pants up. Overall 6 foot 10. Susceptible to

gastric upsets from food. Intelligent, likes to be in control. Artistic

rather than gymnastic. Flat feet. All ars-alb features. O pos blood.

The older son is a Phosphorus (phos) type - very long legs and very long

arms, but not such a long body. Smaller feet (size 13)and hands and

overall 6 foot 6. Susceptible to bronchial infections. Very extrovert,

clever and very sensitive. Not artistic but very creative and

super-agile. Very high arch feet. ...all phos type. O neg blood.

The point is that the two boys were BORN with these proportions and

constitutional type. We all have our type at birth - as do our pets by

the way.

For example an Ars-alb cat almost seems to be walking down hill as the

arms are shorter than usual, and as with ars-alb humans there is zilch

bum flesh - very clear to see on horses for example, who will have the

wiry muscles to do long distance running where Phos is more the gymastic

and agility type. Phos dog is what you want for agility trials for

example. Phos has such long legs that a Phos cat seems " square " from the

side - same length legs and back, not longer back than legs like most cats.

Although my sons were 3.5 yrs apart there was not a single item of

clothing for top or bottom wear or even shoes that I could ever pass

down from the long-limbed one with smaller feet to the long-bodied one

with big feet :-)

Their father is the long bodied type too - I am the long limbed kind.

Namaste,

Irene

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emhosdil@... wrote:

> I have the book reserved for me from our library, so I'll be reading it

shortly.

Great idea - I just found it at my library on linein th new books

section and will pick it up tomorrow (I reserved it via the website)

Namaste,

Irene

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I'm really sorry this is happening. Nina really is friendly, but I know this

makes it seem like she's not.

I would be happy to help you figure out your genotype, but I need the

measurements and you really do need to watch the videos on YouTube to know how

to take them. The videos are very short; watch the ones about finger

measurements, torso and leg lengths, and upper and lower leg lengths. The hard

part for me was taking the measurements without help. But I did it.

Email me directly if you prefer.

RE: Genotype diet?

Just so you know: I have the book and was hoping to join the group to help

me figure out which Genotype I am. However, the moderator will NOT let you

join if you don't already know your genotype. I was really disappointed in

that. I'm hoping someone starts another, more friendly group.

Jean

-----Original Message-----

Hi Barbara,

Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on the

genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

http://health. groups.. com/group/ Genotype_ Diet/join and clicking on

join.

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Thank you, Irene. That does answer the question. So we can measure children and

get a genotype that will be true for life.

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Bumpas wrote:

> I don't think the book talks about children specifically. But that is

an interesting question; the measurements the determination is based on

will keep changing with children as they grow. The moderator of the GTD

group has a daughter and she has determined her daughter's genotype. I

will ask her about it and let you know what I find out.

Dear ,

I am not sure if I know enough about the gene diet system to comment,

but genetics is my field as is constitutional type (involving body

proportions among other characteristics) .

So I can say with confidence that constitutional type is there at

birth - so the body proportions are there from the get-go as well.

So even though *measurements* change - the ratios are there.

As an example my own two sons, both very tall type O blond with blue eyes:

One is constitutionally an Arsenicum album (ars-alb) type - he has a

long body and very powerful but slender muscles. Longish legs, not too

long, and relatively short arms for his body - big feet(size 15.5) and

hands. No bum to hold pants up. Overall 6 foot 10. Susceptible to

gastric upsets from food. Intelligent, likes to be in control. Artistic

rather than gymnastic. Flat feet. All ars-alb features. O pos blood.

The older son is a Phosphorus (phos) type - very long legs and very long

arms, but not such a long body. Smaller feet (size 13)and hands and

overall 6 foot 6. Susceptible to bronchial infections. Very extrovert,

clever and very sensitive. Not artistic but very creative and

super-agile. Very high arch feet. ...all phos type. O neg blood.

The point is that the two boys were BORN with these proportions and

constitutional type. We all have our type at birth - as do our pets by

the way.

For example an Ars-alb cat almost seems to be walking down hill as the

arms are shorter than usual, and as with ars-alb humans there is zilch

bum flesh - very clear to see on horses for example, who will have the

wiry muscles to do long distance running where Phos is more the gymastic

and agility type. Phos dog is what you want for agility trials for

example. Phos has such long legs that a Phos cat seems " square " from the

side - same length legs and back, not longer back than legs like most cats.

Although my sons were 3.5 yrs apart there was not a single item of

clothing for top or bottom wear or even shoes that I could ever pass

down from the long-limbed one with smaller feet to the long-bodied one

with big feet :-)

Their father is the long bodied type too - I am the long limbed kind.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

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Thank you, Irene. That does answer the question. So we can measure children and

get a genotype that will be true for life.

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Bumpas wrote:

> I don't think the book talks about children specifically. But that is

an interesting question; the measurements the determination is based on

will keep changing with children as they grow. The moderator of the GTD

group has a daughter and she has determined her daughter's genotype. I

will ask her about it and let you know what I find out.

Dear ,

I am not sure if I know enough about the gene diet system to comment,

but genetics is my field as is constitutional type (involving body

proportions among other characteristics) .

So I can say with confidence that constitutional type is there at

birth - so the body proportions are there from the get-go as well.

So even though *measurements* change - the ratios are there.

As an example my own two sons, both very tall type O blond with blue eyes:

One is constitutionally an Arsenicum album (ars-alb) type - he has a

long body and very powerful but slender muscles. Longish legs, not too

long, and relatively short arms for his body - big feet(size 15.5) and

hands. No bum to hold pants up. Overall 6 foot 10. Susceptible to

gastric upsets from food. Intelligent, likes to be in control. Artistic

rather than gymnastic. Flat feet. All ars-alb features. O pos blood.

The older son is a Phosphorus (phos) type - very long legs and very long

arms, but not such a long body. Smaller feet (size 13)and hands and

overall 6 foot 6. Susceptible to bronchial infections. Very extrovert,

clever and very sensitive. Not artistic but very creative and

super-agile. Very high arch feet. ...all phos type. O neg blood.

The point is that the two boys were BORN with these proportions and

constitutional type. We all have our type at birth - as do our pets by

the way.

For example an Ars-alb cat almost seems to be walking down hill as the

arms are shorter than usual, and as with ars-alb humans there is zilch

bum flesh - very clear to see on horses for example, who will have the

wiry muscles to do long distance running where Phos is more the gymastic

and agility type. Phos dog is what you want for agility trials for

example. Phos has such long legs that a Phos cat seems " square " from the

side - same length legs and back, not longer back than legs like most cats.

Although my sons were 3.5 yrs apart there was not a single item of

clothing for top or bottom wear or even shoes that I could ever pass

down from the long-limbed one with smaller feet to the long-bodied one

with big feet :-)

Their father is the long bodied type too - I am the long limbed kind.

Namaste,

Irene

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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

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Bumpas wrote:

> I'm really sorry this is happening. Nina really is friendly, but I know this

makes it seem like she's not.

>

Maybe Nina needs to consider the FEELINGS of the humans who want to join

the list and why *they* want to join, (they know more about their health

than she does) and just be less controlling.

After I complained here I magically received a joining approval.

This morning I got *digest* from the group. I HATE digests and never

sign up for them, I have no wish to handle them so it will be deleted

unread. Again - it is Nina being controlling. It's for ME to choose

whether I want individual mail or digest, not Nina. The default is

individual, I did not need it changed on my behalf.

I sent an email change request for individual email but I am ready to

unsubscribe, I am not in kindergarten, I can make my own basic decisions

on what and when to read a book and whether to read individual or

digest. This is ridiculous.

Controlling other adults is NOT friendly.

Nina needs to let list members be the adults they are. (Feel free to

forward this to her.)

She can set rules or guidelines and they should be up front.

Any rule that I have to see digest, and I'm outta there.

Any rule that tells me how to spend my money and I am also outta there.

Sorry but I am unusually miffed at this controlling attitude. I spend

most of my days trying to do what's right for my health AND helping

others do likewise. I do not need Nina pulling my strings about it.

Will someone PLEASE start a friendly and *welcoming* gene type list as

an alternative to the controlling thing on offer?

Namaste,

Irene

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I don't know why we should not be able to discuss the genodiet here also?

Those of us who have been on ER forever (or just joined), don't really need

another list. It's just another way of looking at things IMHO

Have not done the measurements myself yet, (still in too much after-pain

from the shingles) but will try later.

Emm

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>

> only problem is you're allowed to join the group until you've read the

> book.

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Barbara,

> >

> > Yes, the group is Genotype_Diet.

> >

> > The group is unlisted to avoid spam, but we welcome members working on

> the genotype diet. You can join by emailing Nina, the moderator, at

> horseybarbie . You should also be able to join by going to

> Genotype_Diet/join and clicking on

> join.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree -- why don't we just continue discussing the Genotype diet

here? We already discuss things that aren't directly related to the

BTD. Yes, I presume there will be variations among us, but what does

that really matter?

And we all know we are friendly, right?

I first need to get up to speed with the book, though.

Marie

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I don't post much, but read everything that comes through - at least a

cursory one. I delete those I am not interested in. Posting about the

genotype diet here would make it easy on me, not having to subscribe to

another group. Keep those e-mails coming.

I will eventually hunt down the book and read it. Probably not until March

when I am off-track again.

Kate in sunny so. CA

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I agree and as I learn how it applies and may be applicable to a situation I

will discuss it here.

Or if I have any questions.

I must say, I like the friendly variety of this group. Opens minds, freedom

choice and all that.

Happy New Year

Everyone !!!!

On Jan 11, 2008 9:03 PM, Kate Lewicki <exlibris53@...> wrote:

> I don't post much, but read everything that comes through - at least a

> cursory one. I delete those I am not interested in. Posting about the

> genotype diet here would make it easy on me, not having to subscribe to

> another group. Keep those e-mails coming.

>

> I will eventually hunt down the book and read it. Probably not until March

> when I am off-track again.

>

> Kate in sunny so. CA

>

>

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> I agree and as I learn how it applies and may be applicable to a situation I

> will discuss it here.

> Or if I have any questions.

> I must say, I like the friendly variety of this group. Opens minds, freedom

> choice and all that.

>

> Happy New Year

> Everyone !!!!

Thank You - and yes I like the idea of discussing the gene

related diet issues for us O's here too. Thanks Emm for suggesting it.

The fact that we are all O's will make it easier if anything, than mixed

in with A, B and AB types as well. If I understand correctly, there are

only three possible O types?

Are there links to some basic information on the types somewhere?

I went to the library today to collect the book (reserved by internet

last night). Well, naive me! They tell me that yes I am first in line to

get it but that it is " still in catalog " (department I presume) and so

it is literally too new and not yet covered, labeled and catalogued and

whatever so is not yet in circulation. They'll send an email when it is

available - I should expect it to take a week or so.

I found a different new book to read meantime but I hope I can find out

my gene type somehow too meanwhile. I find gene-related things

fascinating - especially as here when they start to confirm

homeopathy-knowns as well. I have been seeing relationships between

homeopathy knowledge and genetics knowledge for some years now. I

suspect each science can learn from the other since the relationships

seem fixed and predictable.

For example in homeopathy certain foods are known to upset certain

constitutional types - I can't wait to see if that correlates with the

new gene type diet food issues......

If so there will be more that is predictable from what is currently known.

Namaste,

Irene

PS I see this list also hides its member list from other members, even

though addresses are munged by so they can't be " harvested " . Strange.

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<< I would be happy to help you figure out your genotype, but I need the

measurements and you really do need to watch the videos on YouTube to

know how to take them. The videos are very short>>

Hi ,

I just spent three hours downloading three of the videos. Yes they

are short but on my oxwagon era dial-up line - well...... so it is the

witching hour here already:-)

What if you can not get it accurate enough?

For me, my sitting height hence torso length - is almost impossible to

get right, and I can not say closer than 37 to 37.5 inches for torso

when sitting. This has to include inaccuracy for serious overweight too

- I do not sit on my bones!!!!

Since my height is 74 inches, it matters, as if 37 is right for torso, I

am " equal " and if 37.5 is right, torso is a tad longer.

The other thing that potentially matters is that my current height is 2

inches less than it used to be due to osteoporosis and age shortening

from crushed discs. So MAYBE my torso would be longer if anything....or

maybe not.

I have a similar problem with leg length - mine are distorted by edema

etc and it is so hard to know where to measure from and to exactly.

Again I get almost equal measurements. Upper leg about 17 and lower

maybe an eighth of an inch less at 16 7/8 inches.

I find it interesting - I always thought I had specially long legs - but

now they look only equal to torso:-)

It's strange to me though how they measure torso because they include

neck length (mine is very long) and that can vary independently of body

length and leg length as I know for homeopathic constitutional types (of

which there are LOTS not just a few as here.) Makes me wonder if neck

length can be a confusing factor that might be more carefully addressed

at some later point. Or maybe the book covers this - I have not read it yet.

At least the fingers were easy for me - my ring fingers are a lot longer.

(86mm as opposed to 76mm and you can see my MUCH shorter index fingers a

mile away. The difference is less when you measure their way as opposed

to just looking - but still enough to leave no doubt.

Are others also having results that can go either way?

Or am I making assumptions that will fall apart when I get the book I

wonder.

I presume I'll be hunter or gatherer somehow - as I'm O neg nonsecretor.

Something else - being overweight is not necessarily dietary. In my case

it is tumors producing hormones - so do I consider myself the way I was

before I got this disease (when I was referred to as telephone pole or

stork etc - or do I use my current body shape which is almost a hundred

more pounds all central from the illness.

My instinct is that actually I should use my " normal " body - as opposed

to the one distorted by an illness.

Maybe I just need to " reverse engineer " it and choose the diet that

makes the most sense from personal eating knowledge???

Oh well - it's all interesting and measuring was kinds fun.

Namaste,

Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done shold not interrupt one doing it. "

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Hi Irene,

Yes, it can be difficult to do the measurements and figure out the results.

Ties always go to torso, lower legs, and index fingers. Adjusting for

osteoporosis would make your torso longer, so it seems pretty clear to me that

your torso is longer.

The book does not talk about neck length, but that is an interesting point.

I would say you would go by your normal body shape.

There are a number of tests that are not necessary to determine your genotype,

but can help if you're not sure or can't get some of the basic measurements. So

it seems to be a matter of take measurements and determine a genotype, consider

the other " strength testing " (testing the genotype determination) tests, and

then listen to your body about how well the genotype you've come up with works

for you.

With a longer torso, longer upper legs, longer ring fingers, O neg non secretor,

you would be an explorer. If you were a man you would be a hunter. In your case,

the upper/lower leg ratio doesn't matter, so you don't need to worry about that.

To " strength test " explorer:

Rh negative: give yourself 5 points

PROP supertaster (propylthiouracil tastes really terrible): 5 points

Sensitive to caffeine: 5 points

Left handed or ambidextrous: 3 points

Square shaped jaw and face (narrow genial angle): 3 points

Muscular body type (mesomorph): 3 points

Broad, short head shape (brachycephalic): 3 points

Index fingers have different finger prints (different patterns: arches, loops,

or whorls): 3 points

Does that sound like you?

Re: Genotype diet?

<< I would be happy to help you figure out your genotype, but I need the

measurements and you really do need to watch the videos on YouTube to

know how to take them. The videos are very short>>

Hi ,

I just spent three hours downloading three of the videos. Yes they

are short but on my oxwagon era dial-up line - well...... so it is the

witching hour here already:-)

What if you can not get it accurate enough?

For me, my sitting height hence torso length - is almost impossible to

get right, and I can not say closer than 37 to 37.5 inches for torso

when sitting. This has to include inaccuracy for serious overweight too

- I do not sit on my bones!!!!

Since my height is 74 inches, it matters, as if 37 is right for torso, I

am " equal " and if 37.5 is right, torso is a tad longer.

The other thing that potentially matters is that my current height is 2

inches less than it used to be due to osteoporosis and age shortening

from crushed discs. So MAYBE my torso would be longer if anything.... or

maybe not.

I have a similar problem with leg length - mine are distorted by edema

etc and it is so hard to know where to measure from and to exactly.

Again I get almost equal measurements. Upper leg about 17 and lower

maybe an eighth of an inch less at 16 7/8 inches.

I find it interesting - I always thought I had specially long legs - but

now they look only equal to torso:-)

It's strange to me though how they measure torso because they include

neck length (mine is very long) and that can vary independently of body

length and leg length as I know for homeopathic constitutional types (of

which there are LOTS not just a few as here.) Makes me wonder if neck

length can be a confusing factor that might be more carefully addressed

at some later point. Or maybe the book covers this - I have not read it yet.

At least the fingers were easy for me - my ring fingers are a lot longer.

(86mm as opposed to 76mm and you can see my MUCH shorter index fingers a

mile away. The difference is less when you measure their way as opposed

to just looking - but still enough to leave no doubt.

Are others also having results that can go either way?

Or am I making assumptions that will fall apart when I get the book I

wonder.

I presume I'll be hunter or gatherer somehow - as I'm O neg nonsecretor.

Something else - being overweight is not necessarily dietary. In my case

it is tumors producing hormones - so do I consider myself the way I was

before I got this disease (when I was referred to as telephone pole or

stork etc - or do I use my current body shape which is almost a hundred

more pounds all central from the illness.

My instinct is that actually I should use my " normal " body - as opposed

to the one distorted by an illness.

Maybe I just need to " reverse engineer " it and choose the diet that

makes the most sense from personal eating knowledge???

Oh well - it's all interesting and measuring was kinds fun.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet. Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire. com/fl/furryboot s/clickhere. html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done shold not interrupt one doing it. "

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