Re: Nervous about doctor appointment tomorrow

[Guest guest]

Hi As you are seeing Dr P in January I would forget about this

capitalist healer ho hum......

Worrying about him is just stressing your adrenals further which

makes his contribition counter-productive in my book.

Let him go and wait to see The Man.......

He is wonderful and all you could possibly want from a doctor, kind,

sensitive, intuitive etc.

Let the other guy go and start the new year with a much better class

of doctor.

All will be well. Enjoy your Crimbo in the meantime.

Mo ( from Dublin) xx

>

> I was dx as hypothyroid with quite bad adrenal fatigue by this doc I

> am seeing here in Ireland at the moment. He is VERY expensive (180

> euro per visit plus transport costs and meds and supplements),

however

> there is literally nobody else in the country that has any idea. He

> has least has a bit of a clue. He has had me on adrenal glandulars

> since August and we started 1/2 grain armour on 12th November 2008.

I

> was fine until the 15th when my body went crazy with my hands

shaking.

> I felt very weird. I slept badly on the night of the 16th because I

> felt like something was in my skin. Like I was crawling out of my

> skin. Felt very edgy and worried until next day I reduced my dose

to a

> 1/4 grain. My adrenals obviously can't cope with even 1/2 a grain.

>

> Tried again to go up to 1/2 grain on the 24th November. Started to

get

> strange fluttering in my tummy area. Experienced hot flushes during

> the past few days. Had a scary experience in the gym on the 27th. I

> did quite a solid 10 min interval training to warm up. It was

slightly

> more exertion than usual but it wasn't extreme. When I got off the

> treadmill to go to the weights area my heartbeat was still quite

high

> when normally it would have slowed by this point. I started with my

> first exercise and I was so exhausted. I did three sets of this one

> exercise and then did 3 sets of the one arm row and 3 sets of bicep

> curls. I went to do my tricep dips and I just couldn't. My heart was

> racing. Normally my heart rate while doing weights is at 110. It was

> at 140 and I sat still. It took AGES to come down to a normal

resting

> heart rate of 80. I was exhausted so only did 3 more sets of one

> exercise after the tricep dips. Then I had to go home.

>

> Then I had to go home (BTW I know now to cut out exercise; that I'm

> not supposed to be doing any....sigh).

>

> So I cut armour back to 1/4 grain as of the 28th.

>

> I have another appointment with him tomorrow on account of this

> adrenal crisis. However I am very nervous and this time I don't want

> to forget everything I want to say like I did last appointment.

>

> The issues I have are:

> I want him to give me 20mg of HC

> I want him to check my thyroid antibodies and send me for an ACTH

test

> as well as vitamin D status test

> He wanted me to go on synthetic progesterone and there is no way I

am

> taking synthetic. What do I say when he asks have I taken it?

>

> He is very friendly and pleasant. However he is not overly keen on

HC.

> And he never even mentioned the tests I want even though he did

loads

> of others. Funny but if I had started out thinking of him as a tough

> nut I would have been more assertive. However I feel like now it's

all

> so pleasant between us that I am embarrassed to all of a sudden get

> tough and demanding. I am also worried that he will think that the

> crisis I have had is because I am on armour and that I would do

better

> on synthetic.

>

> Finally even if he does agree that I need the HC and all that he is

> wildly expensive and I can't afford to see him every month so will

> need to self treat. How can I tell him that I will have to self

treat

> and check in with him every six months or so?

>

>

> I do have a backup plan. I plan on seeing Dr. Peatfield in January.

>

> Can anybody give me any tips on how to talk to my doc to persuade

him

> to give me HC? I am very nervous.

>

> Please keep your fingers crossed for me.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

Lynn

I

think you need to stop your Armour for a week or so and take only your Adrenal

supplements. Your adrenals are not able to cope with stress and taking

Armour is giving them even more stress. Cortisol is needed to help the thyroid

function and to convert the T4 into T3, so give your adrenals a chance to

'heal' before introducing thyroid hormone replacement.

This

particular doctor may not be happy to prescribe you HC because he knows the GMC

are after him, and he doesn't want to add a further problem that could cause

them to question his prescriptions. We KNOW the NHS mainstream doctors do

not recognise the thyroid/adrenal connection so he could well want to keep his

nose clean for the moment.

Write

down all the questions you need to ask him and make sure you get answers - it

is a case of being assertive - this is your health and you need to get well

asap. I am sure that if you come clean with him and tell him you are

unable to afford to keep seeing him but would like to go down the self-treating

road and that you have done your homework, he should understand. Tell him you

have read and understand about the thyroid/adrenal connection and that you are

experiencing it first hand and that you are aware it is your adrenal fatigue

that is stopping your Armour. It is much cheaper for you to buy HC without

prescription than buying it privately through him or any other private doctor,

the same as it is cheaper to buy Armour from the US without prescription than

you are probably paying him. Always remember it is YOUR health - if it is not

being looked after properly by doctors, who should know what to do, you have no

option but to look after it yourself.

Luv -

Sheila

He is very friendly and pleasant. However he is not overly keen on HC.

And he never even mentioned the tests I want even though he did loads

of others. Funny but if I had started out thinking of him as a tough

nut I would have been more assertive. However I feel like now it's all

so pleasant between us that I am embarrassed to all of a sudden get

tough and demanding. I am also worried that he will think that the

crisis I have had is because I am on armour and that I would do better

on synthetic.

Finally even if he does agree that I need the HC and all that he is

wildly expensive and I can't afford to see him every month so will

need to self treat. How can I tell him that I will have to self treat

and check in with him every six months or so?

.._,___

[Guest guest]

Hey All

Appointment went well. He even suggested HC before I got the chance to.

He said he uses adrenal glandulars first because they are softer. He

alluded to the political reasons. However he had no qualms about giving

me HC at all.

The HC was dirt cheap and only 7.99 euro for 100 so that was fine. He

says that I can call him anytime I have a problem. So it's turned out

good.

I am happy with his treatment but very nervous that HC will make me

balloon in weight. Fingers crossed........

[Guest guest]

I had a good visit with him. He prescribed me HC no problem. I didn't

even have to ask . In fact he has read Safe Uses of Cortisol and had

it in his office. He says that he only uses the glandulars so much

because they are " soft " so he tries them first. He also alluded to the

politics of the situation.

He also says I can call him anytime if/when I do the self treating.

The HC was dirt cheap, only 7.99 euro for 100 10mg tablets so that was

fine.

[Guest guest]

That

is excellent news Lynn. Don't worry about the HC making you balloon in weight -

this is only when you take very high doses and you should be taking only physiological

doses of HC to help boost your adrenals. Can you tell us what dose he started

you on and what he suggested about increasing?

Luv -

Sheila

Hey All

Appointment went well. He even suggested HC before I got the chance to.

He said he uses adrenal glandulars first because they are softer. He

alluded to the political reasons. However he had no qualms about giving

me HC at all.

The HC was dirt cheap and only 7.99 euro for 100 so that was fine. He

says that I can call him anytime I have a problem. So it's turned out

good.

I am happy with his treatment but very nervous that HC will make me

balloon in weight. Fingers crossed........