Re: t3 after armour/what can I expect??

[Guest guest]

You are 52? spring chickens we lasses around the 50 mark

shiela did tell me that T3 is very potent. Armour has T3 in of course

along with the T4 (you would know that) so I suppose it is down to how

much you take at a time. I know I have seen breaking down doses into

at least 3x a day is a good thing to stop stressing the adrenals too

badly.

I am sure Shiela will be along to give reliable info hon.

Just wanted to say good luck with your treatment.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi

Berny - I am so sorry to hear that you are having such problems in finding the

level of medication that will make you well. It could be that it is your recent

bout of 'flu that is making you feel so tired and it does take some time to get

back to normal. The one thing I always recommend is drinking lots of Lucozade

(can you get that in Spain?). It is basically just glucose but it helps enormously

in getting back your energy.

Some

questions:

1) When

you were taking Armour, did you feel the same as you do now with just T3?

2) If

not, what symptoms did you have when taking Armour?

3) Were

you taking Armour on its own or with HC?

4)

After you stopped Armour, were you taking Cortisol all on its own?

5) Did

you actually have thyroid function tests showing that you were hypothyroid?

I doubt

that taking T3 on its own for only a week would make much difference to you.

Like any other thyroid hormone replacement, you have to start slowly and

gradually build the dose until you reach a level where your symptoms disappear.

A week of 10 mgs T3 is a tiny dose and you have hardly had time for the extra

10mcgs to take effect. You must have been taking a much higher dose of T3 when

you were taking Armour. However, having said that, T3 gets absorbed into your

system pretty quickly (unlike levothyroxine which can take weeks). As they say,

let the medicine do its work and be patient for the time being.

A

review of available evidence suggests that T4 alone in many cases does not

relieve all symptoms for everybody and some patients don't get relief from

symptoms with combination synthetic. There is evidence supporting the use of

synthetic T3 alone to enable people like you to become free of symptoms. This

may be due to the increased potency of T3 thanT4 .

Synthetic T3 is more

'immediate' that the T3 in Armour and this is because the T3 in natural thyroid

extract is absorbed more slowly than synthetic T3. Armour has a higher amount

of T3 compared to T4 than the relative amounts of T3 to T4 normally secreted by

the human thyroid gland, and it is well documented that Armour Thyroid is often

more effective and better tolerated than synthetic preparations of T4 or T3 and

T4/T3 combination. Basically, to find what

is the best form of thyroid hormone replacement for some individuals, they have

to experiment - and this is what you are doing right now, but in your case, I

think you are wanting things to happen overnight, and it just doesn't work like

that.

You might find at the

end of the day that once your adrenals have been boosted sufficiently, you

might not need thyroid hormone replacement. This has happened to a few people

that it was their adrenals causing all their symptoms. As you felt well and had

more energy when on HC alone, have you talked with Dr P about this.

I would carry on for a

couple of weeks with your 20mcgs T3 and see if you start to feel better, and if

not, you have the option of increasing it again or stopping it for a while to

see if you actually do become better with HC only.

Luv - Sheila

When I was only taking hc I felt energetic. Dr P. feels I have a

degree of thyroid insufficiency. I presume that the adrenals are so

entwined with the thyroid that I must have some degree of thyroid

insufficiency. Is t3 more immediate than armour? I'm afraid at this

level I don't know what to expect. Any ideas would help.thanks in advance.

berny

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[Guest guest]

Berny I wonder if your cortisol is very low as a result of the flu?

Sounds likely to me and, if this is the case, then any kind of

thyroid hormone will have difficulty being converted and/or escorted

into the cells.

What I would do is track your average temps for a few days as per Dr

Rind's method (www.drrind.com) and if you find that the average (of

three temps taken three hours apart, first one three hours after your

usual rising time), if you find that the daily average of these three

temps deviates more than .2F or 1C (on a good mercury-type

thermometer), then you will have established that your adrenals are

still suffering from the flu episode (and flu does SERIOUSLY whack

the adrenals, of often being the first thing that happens when

someone comes down with CFS, that's how it hit me to begin with).

If this is the result, then I would increase the h.c to get me out of

the adrenal dip that I think you are in.

This would then enable to T3 to do its thing.

Mo

>

> Dear Everyone

> I am lost ! I took armour for a few months but I just felt worse. Dr

> P. changed me to t3. I am also taking hc at 35mg and various

> supplements prescribed by Dr P.

>

> I started taking t3 a week ago (10mcg) for a week and now 20mcg.

> Before taking the t3 I had had the flu for 2 weeks and I wonder if

> this is why I am tired.

> What am I supposed to feel taking t3 as opposed to armour?

>

> At the moment I feel very tired, very forgetful, lack of

> concentration. My hair is very dry (it's true that I am 52)

Everything

> is difficult to do.

>

> When I was only taking hc I felt energetic. Dr P. feels I have a

> degree of thyroid insufficiency. I presume that the adrenals are so

> entwined with the thyroid that I must have some degree of thyroid

> insufficiency.Is t3 more immediate than armour? I'm afraid at this

> level I don't know what to expect. Any ideas would help.thanks in

advance.

> berny

>

> Is t3 more immediate than armour ? MY

>

[Guest guest]

All the adrenal fatigue, s sites state that you MUST stress

dose during flu episodes. If you didn't do this you will be suffering

as a consequence of it. I mean even healthy folks take a while to get

going again after proper flu hon.

luv Dawnx