Re: adrenal stress saliva test results

[Guest guest]

HI

Lizzie

So

sorry to hear you are suffering so much but your 24 hour adrenal salivary

profile definitely is showing a problem and this could be the cause of your

symptoms.

Your

cortisol level should be at its highest first thing in the morning, which it

is, so that's OK. However, your midday results suddenly drops right outside the

bottom of the range (should be in the middle of the range) and 4.00p.m. results

shows it to be right at the bottom of the range (it should be lower but around

8/9) and at midnight, cortisol level should be right at the bottom of the range

so you can sleep and yours is at the top.

On

the other hand, your DHEA when waking should be at the very bottom of the range

and yours is way outside the top and again, like your cortisol, it suddenly

drops outside the bottom of the range, then the next test it starts to creep

up (which it should at this time) and at midnight, it is over the range. Your

DHEA should be at its highest point at midnight because this is when you make

DHEA. As low adrenal reserve is not recognised in the NHS you will either have

to see a private specialist (or Dr Peatfield/Dr Skinner) or read all about this

and how to treat it yourself by going to the FILES on this Forum and reading

everything about adrenals, and also read the information that is on our website

www.tpa-uk.org.uk . Click on

'Hypothyroidism' and then click on 'Associated Conditions' and on the page that

opens, click on 'Adrenals'. Anything you do not understand, just shout and we

will try to answer any questions.

Your

thyroid function test results look OK, but as we are very aware, these tests do

not show the full picture and you should have had your Free T3 tested to see

whether you are converting the mainly inactive hormone T4 into the active

hormone T3. You also should be tested to see whether you have antibodies to

your thyroid. The NHS synacthen test would make a dead donkey kick after it has

been injected with synacthen. This only tests to see if you have 's

disease and does not show whether you have any form of low adrenal reserve or

not.

Luv -

Sheila

8am 12midday 4pm 12midnight

salivary 24.2 (12-33) 8.4 (10-28) 7.0 (6.11.8) 5.2 (1-5)

cortisol

salivary 26.2 (9-24.3) 5.9 (6-10.9) 6.1 (4.5-8) 6.5(2.3-5)

DHEA

age range female 25-34 I'm 33 years old

my syncathen result was 815 ((275-690)

TSH 1.15 (0.27 - 4.2)

Free T4 13.6 (11 - 22)

many thanks

lizzie

[Guest guest]

>

I'm surprised at your age the GP isn't taking the amenorrhoea more

seriously. Have you had any tests related to this?

Miriam

> my major symptoms are

> chronic exhaustion, dizziness, disturbed sleep, muscle

fatigue/weakness, emotional disturbance (ie crying!), amenohrrea,

> flu like aches, trembling, nausea, diffuculty focusing/concentrating

>

> age range female 25-34 I'm 33 years old

[Guest guest]

dear shiela,

thank you so much for your swift and detailed response. it's very

reassuring to hear that it's not all in my head. i am reading up and

will hopefully take the freeT3 and thyroid anitbodies tests soon. also

i have wonderful support and encouragement from my friend sue and have

just started nutri-adrenal extra, 1/2 tablet at 8.30am and 1/2 at 12.30

and will see what that does.

many thanks for your support

lizzie

[Guest guest]

miriam,

thanks for your post.

the endocrinolgist picked up on the amenhorrea after a blood test

returned low oestrogen levels (oestradiol <200 no range given). she

prescribed a contraceptive pill, microgynon which i have held off

taking as i haven't had good experince with the pill in the past

(weight gain and mood swings). i am hoping that if my adrenals heal my

oestrogen production will sort itself out. do you think the pill would

help or am i right to trust my instincts?

many thanks

lizzie

[Guest guest]

thanks shiela,

i will try this

lizzie 2

[Guest guest]

I can't say, sorry, though as a principle I think it is good to avoid

using a sledgehammer to crack a nut. Also the use of synthetic

hormones is problematical for two reasons. If they substitute for the

natural hormone they don't necessarily work in all the follow-on

reactions that a natural one would. Or they may block the uptake of

natural hormone and create a deficiency.

I think you are right to first try sorting out the other hormones and

see if there are knock-on benefits.

Miriam

> the endocrinolgist picked up on the amenhorrea after a blood test

> returned low oestrogen levels (oestradiol <200 no range given). she

> prescribed a contraceptive pill, microgynon which i have held off

> taking as i haven't had good experince with the pill in the past

> (weight gain and mood swings). i am hoping that if my adrenals heal

my oestrogen production will sort itself out. do you think the pill

would help or am i right to trust my instincts?