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In a message dated 4/18/99 1:23:23 PM Central Daylight Time,

rhbailey@... writes:

>

> The thing I know a LOT about is hypersensitivity to sound, because my

> daughter had severe hyperacusis. So if you're interested, I'll post some

> information about treatment that you might not have.

sue, i would be interested in seeing this. i have had some pretty bad

problems with this too recently and know next to nothing about it. (i have

just read enough to decide that i *wasn't* nuts.)

thanks,

dwanna

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Hi,I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months now.  I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO EYEBROWS!  Oh, the horror.  :-)   I'm actually growing eyebrows again.  Hooray!  I used to all but drown myself in coffee to combat the lethargy.  Now I'm caffeine free!  I really never thought that would happen.  I've lost about 100 lbs this year!I'm half way there but really feeling much improved.Before thyroid treatment, I was offered weight loss surgery.I said in no uncertain terms, no way! I became a strictvegetarian (only using goat milk for my coffee, or it wouldhave been strict vegan) and ate 900-1200 lbs a day plusspent 3-5 hours a week on a treadmill. I only lost 5 lbsa month and hurt myself a lot. This is my lipid profile fromlast year:Total Cholesterol 287Triglycerides > 300HDL 41can't remember LDL, but it was up there.After ditching the beta blocker blood pressure med andgoing on Armour Thyroid, these are my numbers:Total Cholesterol 112Triglycerides 134HDL 24LDL 61I lose 5 lbs a month even when I can't exercise. I didgo backwards when I was on crutches for 3 weeks ora month, but not too far. That was probably due tothe meds I was on. Anyway, now I eat 2000-2400Kcal a day and still lose weight.I've been advised to get more fat in my diet. HAH!!! Afterall those letters telling me that I needed to avoid fat andeat more vegetables. Phew! I am on Wellbutrin now, butthat is really more about being too low on cholesterol.Depression is a symptom of cholesterol being too low. Ifeel fine, but the doc said I should take it just in case...Come spring time I'm going off of it anyway.I thought I would share something posted in another group.Cheers,-MikeOde To the ThyroidThe thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neckI'm strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid…..what the heckIt won't stop me from doing well and living life in fullIt's such a tiny little thing who said it had to ruleI don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like madI don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so badWhy is that I fall asleep at every given chanceThe muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stanceI would get help for all these things but my memory lets me downI m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to townMy minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fastThe lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laughPlease doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sadYou call me in and look away you think I'm going madThe test are taken all sent off, now its time to waitAt last there is a reason something I can hateAnd hate you very much I do for months of grief and strifeFor all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wifeYou will not win this battle now as I have all the factsBut hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on trackSo all of you both young and old take heed and listen goodYou can't ignore your body's voice even if you couldOh so fast things slow down you don't see what it isYour thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.jack frost

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Hi Mike,

Welcome to the group. Glad you came over from the other group. Anyway,

I have a question for you. You said you are pituitary patient. Do

you have hypopituitarism? If you do, what were your symptoms? I

guess I never read your situation on the other hypoT group so this was

interesting.

Venizia

>

> Hi,

>

> I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months now.

> I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO EYEBROWS!

> Oh, the horror. :-) I'm actually growing eyebrows again. Hooray!

>

>

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Hello Mike

Welcome to our forum where I hope you get all the help and

support you need here. First, can I ask you to post the reference ranges for

each of your tests, as it is impossible to tell whether these results are good,

bad or indifferent without them.

Many of us know what you are going through on the changes this

dreadful disease makes on our appearance and body mass, if only doctors knew. I

don't have eyebrows anymore either, but I'm lucky in that being a woman, I can

use the old eyebrow liner with an artistic touch. I wish my hair and eyebrows would

grow back as I am now very well on 2 grains of Armour thyroid + 25 mcgs

levothyroxine.

Pleased to hear you are now caffiene free, that will help your

condition a lot. You appear to have been truly working hard with exercise and

diet to get yourself to the place you are at now - you must have great

determination and stamina. How much Armour are you taking and when was your last

increase, and also, do you feel you have reached your 'sweet spot' now or are

you still trying to find it.

We have lots of information in our FILES and LINKS in the

website of this forum which you can navigate to from the Home Page. We also

have more information in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk

which I'm sure will be of interest to you. If you have any questions,

just shout, and somebody will be along to try to give you some answers.

Luv - Sheila

Hi,

I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months

now.

I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO

EYEBROWS!

Oh, the horror. :-) I'm actually growing

eyebrows again. Hooray!

I used to all but drown myself in coffee to combat the

lethargy. Now I'm

caffeine free! I really never thought that would

happen.

I've

lost about 100 lbs this year!

I'm

half way there but really feeling much improved.

Before

thyroid treatment, I was offered weight loss surgery.

I

said in no uncertain terms, no way! I became a strict

vegetarian

(only using goat milk for my coffee, or it would

have

been strict vegan) and ate 900-1200 lbs a day plus

spent

3-5 hours a week on a treadmill. I only lost 5 lbs

a

month and hurt myself a lot. This is my lipid profile from

last

year:

Total

Cholesterol 287

Triglycerides

> 300

HDL

41

can't

remember LDL, but it was up there.

After

ditching the beta blocker blood pressure med and

going

on Armour Thyroid, these are my numbers:

Total

Cholesterol 112

Triglycerides

134

HDL

24

LDL

61

I

lose 5 lbs a month even when I can't exercise. I did

go

backwards when I was on crutches for 3 weeks or

a

month, but not too far. That was probably due to

the

meds I was on. Anyway, now I eat 2000-2400

Kcal

a day and still lose weight.

I've

been advised to get more fat in my diet. HAH!!! After

all

those letters telling me that I needed to avoid fat and

eat

more vegetables. Phew! I am on Wellbutrin now, but

that

is really more about being too low on cholesterol.

Depression

is a symptom of cholesterol being too low. I

feel

fine, but the doc said I should take it just in case...

Come

spring time I'm going off of it anyway.

I thought I would share something posted in

another group.

Cheers,

-Mike

Ode

To the Thyroid

The

thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neck

I'm

strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid…..what the heck

It

won't stop me from doing well and living life in full

It's

such a tiny little thing who said it had to rule

I

don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like mad

I

don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so bad

Why

is that I fall asleep at every given chance

The

muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stance

I

would get help for all these things but my memory lets me down

I

m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to town

My

minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fast

The

lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laugh

Please

doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sad

You

call me in and look away you think I'm going mad

The

test are taken all sent off, now its time to wait

At

last there is a reason something I can hate

And

hate you very much I do for months of grief and strife

For

all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wife

You

will not win this battle now as I have all the facts

But

hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on track

So

all of you both young and old take heed and listen good

You

can't ignore your body's voice even if you could

Oh

so fast things slow down you don't see what it is

Your

thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.

jack

frost

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I forgot to thank you for posting the 'Ode

to Thyroid' - this is excellent. Do you know who wrote this Mike - beside 'Jack

Frost'?

Luv - Sheila

Ode

To the Thyroid

The

thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neck

I'm

strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid…..what the heck

It

won't stop me from doing well and living life in full

It's

such a tiny little thing who said it had to rule

I

don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like mad

I

don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so bad

Why

is that I fall asleep at every given chance

The

muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stance

I

would get help for all these things but my memory lets me down

I

m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to town

My

minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fast

The

lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laugh

Please

doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sad

You

call me in and look away you think I'm going mad

The

test are taken all sent off, now its time to wait

At

last there is a reason something I can hate

And

hate you very much I do for months of grief and strife

For

all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wife

You

will not win this battle now as I have all the facts

But

hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on track

So

all of you both young and old take heed and listen good

You

can't ignore your body's voice even if you could

Oh

so fast things slow down you don't see what it is

Your

thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.

jack

frost

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Hi Mike and welcome ,

I've recently joined the group as well . Only just starting my recovery , well six or seven weeks in but am already seeing some improvement. (thank heavens !) So glad you are feeling much better yourself , sure you will find lots of help here , they are a good bunch !

best wishes Jo

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From: Mike Lawson <mlawson66@...>Subject: Mike's introductionthyroid treatment Date: Saturday, 18 October, 2008, 1:28 PM

Hi,

I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months now.

I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO EYEBROWS!

Oh, the horror. :-) I'm actually growing eyebrows again. Hooray!

I used to all but drown myself in coffee to combat the lethargy. Now I'm

caffeine free! I really never thought that would happen.

I've lost about 100 lbs this year!

I'm half way there but really feeling much improved.

Before thyroid treatment, I was offered weight loss surgery.

I said in no uncertain terms, no way! I became a strict

vegetarian (only using goat milk for my coffee, or it would

have been strict vegan) and ate 900-1200 lbs a day plus

spent 3-5 hours a week on a treadmill. I only lost 5 lbs

a month and hurt myself a lot. This is my lipid profile from

last year:

Total Cholesterol 287

Triglycerides > 300

HDL 41

can't remember LDL, but it was up there.

After ditching the beta blocker blood pressure med and

going on Armour Thyroid, these are my numbers:

Total Cholesterol 112

Triglycerides 134

HDL 24

LDL 61

I lose 5 lbs a month even when I can't exercise. I did

go backwards when I was on crutches for 3 weeks or

a month, but not too far. That was probably due to

the meds I was on. Anyway, now I eat 2000-2400

Kcal a day and still lose weight.

I've been advised to get more fat in my diet. HAH!!! After

all those letters telling me that I needed to avoid fat and

eat more vegetables. Phew! I am on Wellbutrin now, but

that is really more about being too low on cholesterol.

Depression is a symptom of cholesterol being too low. I

feel fine, but the doc said I should take it just in case...

Come spring time I'm going off of it anyway.

I thought I would share something posted in another group.

Cheers,

-Mike

Ode To the Thyroid

The thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neck

I'm strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid…..what the heck

It won't stop me from doing well and living life in full

It's such a tiny little thing who said it had to rule

I don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like mad

I don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so bad

Why is that I fall asleep at every given chance

The muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stance

I would get help for all these things but my memory lets me down

I m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to town

My minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fast

The lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laugh

Please doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sad

You call me in and look away you think I'm going mad

The test are taken all sent off, now its time to wait

At last there is a reason something I can hate

And hate you very much I do for months of grief and strife

For all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wife

You will not win this battle now as I have all the facts

But hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on track

So all of you both young and old take heed and listen good

You can't ignore your body's voice even if you could

Oh so fast things slow down you don't see what it is

Your thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.

jack frost

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Hi Mike,

I have been a thyroid patient since about 1995 when I was overactive

(thyrotoxic) I eventually gave in after trying antithyroid

(carbimazole) & beta blockers I took Radioiodine in 97 and have been

on thyroxine since.

Looking at my medical records I am 20 kg overweight! My cholestrol is

slightly high. I am hoping to get onto Armour soon , that might help.

I do Pilates twice at week at the moment, I may even increase that to

3 times a week as it is sooo good.I do like to go hiking maybe about

8 miles or so at a weekend; but lacking in energy that will have to

wait. I do a sedentary job sitting at a computer all day

The dreaded coffee : I did give it up for about four days recently

when I was quite poorly due to doctors ignorance and an increase of

thyroxine to 125 mcg!I thought it is probably not helping the

palpitations. Then I went back on it again as due to feeling soooo

tired I felt like I needed something!

I don't think I have ever had nacrolepsy; but certainly at times I

cannot prevent myself falling asleep. I saw a program on nacrolepsy

the other day and I had never imagined how tough that must have be

people.

Glad to hear your eyebrows are growing back.

Take care,

Ali

Mike Lawson <mlawson66@...> wrote:

>

> Hi,

>

> I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months now.

> I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO EYEBROWS!

> Oh, the horror. :-) I'm actually growing eyebrows again. Hooray!

>

> I used to all but drown myself in coffee to combat the lethargy.

Now

> I'm

> caffeine free! I really never thought that would happen.

>

> I've lost about 100 lbs this year!

>

> I'm half way there but really feeling much improved.

>

> Before thyroid treatment, I was offered weight loss surgery.

> I said in no uncertain terms, no way! I became a strict

> vegetarian (only using goat milk for my coffee, or it would

> have been strict vegan) and ate 900-1200 lbs a day plus

> spent 3-5 hours a week on a treadmill. I only lost 5 lbs

> a month and hurt myself a lot. > I lose 5 lbs a month even when I

can't exercise.

I did

> go backwards when I was on crutches for 3 weeks or

> a month, but not too far. That was probably due to

> the meds I was on. Anyway, now I eat 2000-2400

> Kcal a day and still lose weight.

>

> I've been advised to get more fat in my diet. HAH!!! After

> all those letters telling me that I needed to avoid fat and

> eat more vegetables. Phew! I am on Wellbutrin now, but

> that is really more about being too low on cholesterol.

> Depression is a symptom of cholesterol being too low. I

> feel fine, but the doc said I should take it just in case...

> Come spring time I'm going off of it anyway.

>

> I thought I would share something posted in another group.

>

> Cheers,

>

> -Mike

>

>

> Ode To the Thyroid

>

>

> The thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neck

> I'm strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid…..what the heck

> It won't stop me from doing well and living life in full

> It's such a tiny little thing who said it had to rule

>

> I don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like mad

> I don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so bad

> Why is that I fall asleep at every given chance

> The muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stance

>

> I would get help for all these things but my memory lets me down

> I m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to town

> My minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fast

> The lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laugh

>

> Please doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sad

> You call me in and look away you think I'm going mad

> The test are taken all sent off, now its time to wait

> At last there is a reason something I can hate

>

> And hate you very much I do for months of grief and strife

> For all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wife

> You will not win this battle now as I have all the facts

> But hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on track

>

> So all of you both young and old take heed and listen good

> You can't ignore your body's voice even if you could

> Oh so fast things slow down you don't see what it is

> Your thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.

>

> jack frost

>

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Hi Ali

I am positive that once you do start Armour that all of these

dreadful symptoms will disappear once you have found the dose that makes you

well again. Take , say, 350mgs Niacin (vitamin B3) - the non-flushing variety

to help bring down your cholesterol - don't EVER allow a doctor to prescribe

Statins for you, they might lower cholesterol, but they can do a tremendous

amount of damage in other areas. Don't do too much exercise if you are

hypothyroid and not on the treatment that will build up your metabolism, this

will not help you lose weight. Once your metabolism is working again, your

calories will gradually burn up and you should start to lose weight

naturally. Have you considered using decaffeinated coffee. Most hypothyroids

drop off to sleep, usually in the afternoon and again, once you are on Armour,

I bet you this will stop as you will have so much more energy during the day.

Are you taking your thyroxine at night? I know people keep telling that they

are and feeling better, but I cannot remember who you all are.

Looking forward to seeing you over the weekend.

Luv - Sheila

Looking at my medical records I am 20 kg overweight! My cholestrol is

slightly high. I am hoping to get onto Armour soon , that might help.

I do Pilates twice at week at the moment, I may even increase that to

3 times a week as it is sooo good.I do like to go hiking maybe about

8 miles or so at a weekend; but lacking in energy that will have to

wait. I do a sedentary job sitting at a computer all day

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Hi Sheila,

I am at 2 grains of Armour now, and I think I'm getting close

to the sweet spot. I won't know for sure unless I go past it

and come back though. I'm thinking that it will be about

2 1/2 grains, but I'm just guessing.

These are my current lipid numbers

Total Cholesterol 112 L 125 - 200

Triglycerides 134 < 150

HDL 24 L > 40

LDL 61 < 130

Last year:

Total Cholesterol 287 H 125-200

Triglycerides > 300 H < 150

HDL 31 L > 40

I can't remember LDL, but it was also very high.

Thanks for the warm welcome!

-Mike

>

> Hello Mike

>

>

>

> Welcome to our forum where I hope you get all the help and support you need

> here. First, can I ask you to post the reference ranges for each of your

> tests, as it is impossible to tell whether these results are good, bad or

> indifferent without them.

>

>

>

> Many of us know what you are going through on the changes this dreadful

> disease makes on our appearance and body mass, if only doctors knew. I don't

> have eyebrows anymore either, but I'm lucky in that being a woman, I can use

> the old eyebrow liner with an artistic touch. I wish my hair and eyebrows

> would grow back as I am now very well on 2 grains of Armour thyroid + 25

> mcgs levothyroxine.

>

>

>

> Pleased to hear you are now caffiene free, that will help your condition a

> lot. You appear to have been truly working hard with exercise and diet to

> get yourself to the place you are at now - you must have great determination

> and stamina. How much Armour are you taking and when was your last increase,

> and also, do you feel you have reached your 'sweet spot' now or are you

> still trying to find it.

>

>

>

> We have lots of information in our FILES and LINKS in the website of this

> forum which you can navigate to from the Home Page. We also have more

> information in our web site www.tpa-uk.org.uk which I'm sure will be of

> interest to you. If you have any questions, just shout, and somebody will

> be along to try to give you some answers.

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

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It turns out that this Jack Frost is a thyroid patient in the UK.

http://hypothyroidism.blog.co.uk/

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/ode-to-the-thyroid/

-Mike

>

> I forgot to thank you for posting the 'Ode to Thyroid' - this is excellent.

> Do you know who wrote this Mike - beside 'Jack Frost'?

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

> Ode To the Thyroid

>

>

>

>

>

> The thyroid is such a funny thing wrapped inside your neck

>

> I'm strong I'm tough I'm young and bold so thyroid...what the heck

>

> It won't stop me from doing well and living life in full

>

> It's such a tiny little thing who said it had to rule

>

>

>

> I don't see why I feel so cold my fingers hurt like mad

>

> I don't see why I feel fatigue why is it so so bad

>

> Why is that I fall asleep at every given chance

>

> The muscle cramps the tired legs the sickly looking stance

>

>

>

> I would get help for all these things but my memory lets me down

>

> I m going mad it's just not fair I forgot the way to town

>

> My minds a fuzz my hair is thin my nails a breaking fast

>

> The lack of hair around my eyes gives everyone a laugh

>

>

>

> Please doctor can you help me now as I really feel so sad

>

> You call me in and look away you think I'm going mad

>

> The test are taken all sent off, now its time to wait

>

> At last there is a reason something I can hate

>

>

>

> And hate you very much I do for months of grief and strife

>

> For all the days you made me bad to both my kids and wife

>

> You will not win this battle now as I have all the facts

>

> But hell it's hard to fight this thing and get myself on track

>

>

>

> So all of you both young and old take heed and listen good

>

> You can't ignore your body's voice even if you could

>

> Oh so fast things slow down you don't see what it is

>

> Your thyroids got you by your throat yes you! Not mine, not his.

>

>

>

> jack frost

>

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Hi Venizia,

Another familiar voice!

I have either some scar tissue from lots of head trauma and more

than a few concussions (used to ride motocross, break horses,

and I've been in several nasty car wrecks), or I have a small

pituitary adenoma that I inherited from my mother.

The symptoms were systemically low hormones. Everything was

below reference for cortisol and aldosterone, both of which were

about twice their maximum reference ranges. My 24 hour cortisol

was 84. If it had been 100 or greater, I would have been diagnosed

with full blown Cushing's Disease.

I've been borderline most of my life, but I was in a bad car crash

about 8 years ago, and the symptoms really started getting worse

after that.

I'm doing very well replacing thyroid hormones and testosterone.

I can't believe how much my quality of life is improving. The brain

is coming back on line. Before treatment, I would slur my words,

forget what I was saying, or the name of the person I was talking

to, and I would fall asleep at odd times, like while driving. After

a few close calls, I decided to get a second opinion, as my old

primary care provider's solution was weight loss surgery.

Anyway, my wife and I are both hypothyroid. Our symptoms

were very similar except for my high cortisol. It turns out that

she has PCOS. We didn't know how sick we were getting because

we were both going through similar issues at the same time.

I would have to schedule things that took coherent thought,

like paying bills and such, for the first thing in the morning

because my concentration level would be shot later.

Well, I've gone on long enough. It is good to hear from you

Venizia.

Have a great day all.

-Mike

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I've been a thyroid and pituitary patient for about 6 months now.

> > I had horrible hypo symptoms including narcolepsy and NO EYEBROWS!

> > Oh, the horror. :-) I'm actually growing eyebrows again. Hooray!

> >

> >

>

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Hi Jo,

Thanks! I'm glad that you are feeling better as well. I already

feel very welcome here. I hope that your situation continues to

improve too.

Best,

-Mike

>

> Hi Mike and welcome , 

>  

> I've recently joined the group as well . Only just starting my recovery , well

six or seven

weeks in but am already seeing some improvement. (thank heavens !) So glad you

are

feeling much better yourself , sure you  will find lots of help here , they are

a good bunch !

>  

> best wishes Jo

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Ho Ho! I wonder if the poet is a member of this forum? If so,

come out, come out - whoever you are Jack :o) I have just finished reading his

excellent Blog, and he has kept a great diary, obviously determined to do

everything within his power to get his health back. Thanks for posting this

Mike.

Luv - Sheila

It turns out that this Jack Frost is a thyroid

patient in the UK.

http://hypothyroidism.blog.co.uk/

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/ode-to-the-thyroid/

-Mike

>

> I forgot to thank you for posting the 'Ode to Thyroid' - this is

excellent.

> Do you know who wrote this Mike - beside 'Jack Frost'?

>

>

>

> Luv - Sheila

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Your numbers appear

to be absolutely fine and something obviously is working for you. How long is

it since your last increase in Armour? Some of us who are not quite getting

there on Armour often benefit from the addition of a little more synthetic

thyroxine or synthetic T3 - it's another experiment though to find which this

might be. The T4 and T3 in Armour is standardised to the specification

laid down by the USP and as we are all different, these amounts are not

necessarily the amounts that our body needs. So for anybody who has been on

Armour for some time and find they still have lurking symptoms, you might want

to look into this. I take 2 grains of Armour (used to be 3 before night-time dosing)

and 25 mcgs levothyroxine.

I was told I didn't

need anymore T4 - so I stopped it and just took Armour. After a few weeks, I

found I was slurring my words and getting brain fog and short term memory. I

was talking to a friend on the telephone one day and I was apologising to her

for sounding so stupid and slurred, and she said " ….but Sheila,

didn't you stop your T4 a while back… " . I had completely forgotten.

I started to take it again, and very soon, I was back to my good health.

You should keep

taking an increase of half a grain every 3 to 4 weeks 9you don't need a blood

test to do check whether you need to do this. When you reach your sweet spot,

that will be about a couple of hours after you have taken an increase and you

may feel palpitations, sweaty, a bit dizzy, a bit 'spaced-out' and generally

not good. This is nothing to worry about. It must means you have taken a bit

too much of the active hormone T3 and this will soon leave your body. Don't

take any more Armour that day, and the next day, drop your dose back to what

you were taking before, and this is the amount your body requires. That is a

day to celebrate.

Luv - Sheila

I am at 2 grains of Armour now, and I think I'm getting close

to the sweet spot. I won't know for sure unless I go past it

and come back though. I'm thinking that it will be about

2 1/2 grains, but I'm just guessing.

These are my current lipid numbers

Total Cholesterol 112 L 125 - 200

Triglycerides 134 < 150

HDL 24 L > 40

LDL 61 < 130

Last year:

Total Cholesterol 287 H 125-200

Triglycerides > 300 H < 150

HDL 31 L > 40

I can't remember LDL, but it was also very high.

Thanks for the warm welcome!

-Mike

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Hi Ali,

I'm so sorry that you had to go through thyrotoxicosis and

then RAI, and now hypothyroidism. That's doesn't sound

like a fun ride at all.

I was on a beta blocker for my blood pressure. That messed

up my lipids almost as much as being hypo in the first place.

Nasty stuff...

I to have a computer job, but it can be pretty taxing at times.

I am the only DBA and oft times, the only system administrator

on site, so I wind up having to work some crazy hours. Not good

on the adrenals, but much more manageable now that I've got

thyroid support.

Pilates, that sounds impressive. Keep up the good work! I'm

sure that those kilos will be gone before long. Armour worked

much better for me than levo, so I hope you do get on it soon.

Since my wife and I work such

crazy hours, we set up a home gym consisting of the Marquis

de Sade Tortureciser 6000 elliptical machine and a Boflex

revolution. The MSDT 6000 is very thorough at making you

tired in a short period of time, but that's works for us. I'm

3 - 5 hours a week on that and what ever I can get done with

weight lifting. It sure makes you feel better. I'm hoping next

year we can get back to hiking and bicycling like we used to.

I'm glad you never had narcolepsy. It is so embarrassing to

nod out when you are talking to someone. It is usually just

a momentary lapse, but it is rather unsettling.

Oh, I'm not terribly concerned about the eyebrows, I just

thought it was sort of funny. I am glad to have mental

energy again though.

Cheers,

-Mike

>

> Hi Mike,

>

> I have been a thyroid patient since about 1995 when I was overactive

> (thyrotoxic) I eventually gave in after trying antithyroid

> (carbimazole) & beta blockers I took Radioiodine in 97 and have been

> on thyroxine since.

>

> Looking at my medical records I am 20 kg overweight! My cholestrol is

> slightly high. I am hoping to get onto Armour soon , that might help.

> I do Pilates twice at week at the moment, I may even increase that to

> 3 times a week as it is sooo good.I do like to go hiking maybe about

> 8 miles or so at a weekend; but lacking in energy that will have to

> wait. I do a sedentary job sitting at a computer all day

>

> The dreaded coffee : I did give it up for about four days recently

> when I was quite poorly due to doctors ignorance and an increase of

> thyroxine to 125 mcg!I thought it is probably not helping the

> palpitations. Then I went back on it again as due to feeling soooo

> tired I felt like I needed something!

>

> I don't think I have ever had nacrolepsy; but certainly at times I

> cannot prevent myself falling asleep. I saw a program on nacrolepsy

> the other day and I had never imagined how tough that must have be

> people.

>

> Glad to hear your eyebrows are growing back.

>

> Take care,

>

> Ali

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Hi Sheila,

Thank you. I have started taking my throxine at night and am feeling

a little better, sleeping better, less anxious etc; but still want to

get off the rubbish.

Look forward to meeting you at the weekend.

Love Ali xx

<sheilaturner@...> wrote:

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> Hi Ali

> I am positive that once you do start Armour that all of these

dreadful symptoms will disappear once you have found the dose that makes you

well again.

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