Using NAX: is this normal?

[Guest guest]

I started Nutri Adrenal Extra (NAX) a week and a half ago, following

Dr. P's treatment plan for me. I took one a day last week, this week

it's two. At about the same time I had to change my HRT and I've

halved my estrogen and started using natural progesterone cream.

I'm still just as tired and the old aches are creeping back after

feeling better in the hot weather. I'm also getting more night time

hot flushes. My temperature is slowly rising (it was 36.4 this

morning) and my pulse is slowly falling (it was 58 this morning).

Could this be the weather? The progesterone? The NAX? I start Armour

next week. Will I start to feel better then?

[Guest guest]

Hi - we usually recommend starting Armour for the first

time by using half a grain only to check you will have no adverse effects and

usually, when starting something for the first time, it is best to start ONLY

one medication at a time, because if things are not working correctly, you know

where the problem might lie, but taking two new medications could be a problem.

We recommend using the best Progesterone Cream because some are

not pure progesterone and contain other things. We recommend Serenity. Why are

you taking both Oestrogen and Progesterone? I think with your tiredness and hot

flushes, this sounds to be more of a sex hormone problem. Hypothyroids are more

prone to being oestrogen dominant and you need Progesterone Cream to balance

the two hormones.

You might need to speak with Dr P to see what ideas he has.

Luv - Sheila

I took my first thyroid supplement ever today:

1 grain of Armour.

I'm feeling really tired. I was hoping that the NAX would have helped

a bit but maybe I'm in too much of a rush. I start to wonder if Dr P

is wrong and it's not my thyroid at all.

It doesn't help that I've had to change my HRT at the same time. The

progestogen I used for half of each month was taken off the market and

the natural progesterone cream that I changed to had no effect except

to make my skin react to the Estraderm (estrogen patch). So now I'm

following my GP's advice and only using topical estrogen where it's

needed and I'm back to hot flushes again.

I don't think that's the problem, though, I think it just makes it all

more confusing.

I keep hoping I'll feel better soon. It feels as though I'm just being

lazy.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Thanks for your comments.

I'm following the plan set out for me by Dr P - he advised starting

with 1 grain Armour.

I know that it's a bad time to mess with stopping my HRT but there

wasn't a lot of choice. Effectively, I'm not on anything at the

moment. (The amount of estrogen absorbed from topical use should be

minimal.) I can't really go into the reasons why I know that lack of

estrogen is a problem for me, not on a mixed forum. The progesterone

cream I tried was Serenity and I'll have to talk to Dr P about whether

it might help me in the long run.

My candida test came back negative, so no action needed. I've just had

my adrenal saliva test back and the results were:

Cortisol

First: 7.8 (range 12 - 22)

Second: 2.2 (5.0 - 9.0)

Third: 1.5 (3.0 - 7.0)

Fourth: 1.5 (1.0 - 3.0)

Total: 13.0 (21 - 41)

DHEA

am: 0.26 (no reference range given)

pm: 0.18 (no reference range given)

mean: 0.22 (0.20 - 0.70)

DHEA/Cortisol ratio

1.69 (0.6 - 3.0)

Dr P made a note on the result that this shows pretty poor adrenal

function and that I am almost flatlining. I wonder if this is what the

problem is. I guess I'm going to have to give him a ring to see what

to do next but I do hate to bother him.

All the best,

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> Hi - we usually recommend starting Armour for the first time by

using

> half a grain only