Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 It is very weak in form. You may do Ok but that is probably only because you are not stirring things up. Which is what you need to do to get toxins moving out. There is a balance. You don't have to be feeling absolutely horrible but I believe you do need to feel " uncomfortable " in order to make progress. I recently upped my dose from 100 to 125 mgs Iodoral and I have been struggling. I have had to support my liver and jump through more hoops to lessen the load through Vit C, potassium, magnesium, B vit's, more celtic salt, Ultra Clear Plus, coffee enemas and more. If I don't feel it I feel like it isn't doing anything. Honestly I think you will struggle with your health conditions (for whatever reason it brought you here) for a very long time taking this product. Iodomere >I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has > anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about > iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but > that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I > wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my > supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any > practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this > matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I > didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was > good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use > the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200 > mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has > any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so > helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge > of their health. > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thanks for your response. I value other's opinions but I disagree with your last statement. I trust my intuition and time will tell in the end. It's the only thing that hasn't failed me where almost all practitioners have made me worse. People get in their head that things should go a certain way but it rarely works that way from my experience. Most people I know who have healed had altered protocols and listened to their body to achieve their desired results. The other forms of iodine made me feel worse and I agree with the feeling- uncomfortable-to-get-better (sometimes that's necessary) and have had that feeling many times with many things but my body just knows the difference of when something is too much. Someone I know who wrote a book on mercury recommended iodomere and in the end we are mainly taking other people's word for most of what we do anyways. Different things work well for different people and I am not here trying to talk someone out of a high dose of their iodine but I think it's a stretch to say that someone will struggle with something for a long time taking this particular product. I would need a list of reasons why that conclusion could be reached especially when I have read that many practitioners have seen their patients improve with it. > > It is very weak in form. You may do Ok but that is probably only because > you are not stirring things up. Which is what you need to do to get toxins > moving out. There is a balance. You don't have to be feeling absolutely > horrible but I believe you do need to feel " uncomfortable " in order to make > progress. I recently upped my dose from 100 to 125 mgs Iodoral and I have > been struggling. I have had to support my liver and jump through more hoops > to lessen the load through Vit C, potassium, magnesium, B vit's, more celtic > salt, Ultra Clear Plus, coffee enemas and more. If I don't feel it I feel > like it isn't doing anything. > > Honestly I think you will struggle with your health conditions (for whatever > reason it brought you here) for a very long time taking this product. > > > > Iodomere > > > >I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has > > anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about > > iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but > > that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I > > wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my > > supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any > > practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this > > matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I > > didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was > > good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use > > the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200 > > mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has > > any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so > > helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge > > of their health. > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I don't think enough gets in to the blood stream from what I have read to make a difference. They don't bother me. I do not get a "buzz" from them at all. Steph Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------------------------------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Did you do a coffee enema everyday? Over how long of a time span did you do the coffe enemas? sr From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@...>Subject: Re: Iodomereiodine Received: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:02 PM Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Are you asking me? I only do them once a week. Twice at the most. Steph Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Thank you - yep, asking everyone in general - just wondering if anyone had done them everyday for a short period of time - let's say every day while juice fasting? And is it the Gerson protocol to do it like that? Sorry it's kinda OT, but thanks for your patience. sr From: Kathleen Blake <kathleenblake@ msn.com>Subject: Re: Iodomereiodinegroups (DOT) comReceived: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 6:02 PM Hello, you mention coffee enemas, I did them for years when I did the Gerson Therapy. I have heard some say they can deplete the adrenals, has anyone ever heard that this can happen? Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I don't know. I am not familiar with the specifics of Gerson protocol. I did them when I got constipated from detoxing too fast and overloading my liver / kidney. Steph Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 The Gerson Therapy is a very intensive therapy. 13 veggie juices daily, plus three meals, all organic, vegetarian...in the beginning up to 4 or five coffee enemas daily..Dr Max Gerson found this was necessary to help rid the body of toxins from the cancer cells dying. His therapy is for healing cancer, arthritis, and many other diseases. He also had his patients take Armour thyroid and Lugols solution as he found that people with cancer and other serious degenerative diseases were always deficient in those two materials. You can google Max Gerson Md and find out much about him and the Gerson Therapy. It saved my life over 20 years ago. Iodomere>I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has> anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning about> iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took iodorall but> that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I> wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my> supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any> practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this> matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere and I> didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, that was> good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to use> the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere has 200> mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If anyone has> any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has been so> helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take charge> of their health.>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 So the iodine doctors have said from their clinical experience that taking iodomere as a way to build up slowly before taking Lugols will make people struggle with their health conditions for a long time? I don't understand. > >> > >> It is very weak in form. You may do Ok but that is probably only > > because > >> you are not stirring things up. Which is what you need to do to > > get toxins > >> moving out. There is a balance. You don't have to be feeling > > absolutely > >> horrible but I believe you do need to feel " uncomfortable " in order > > to make > >> progress. I recently upped my dose from 100 to 125 mgs Iodoral and > > I have > >> been struggling. I have had to support my liver and jump through > > more hoops > >> to lessen the load through Vit C, potassium, magnesium, B vit's, > > more celtic > >> salt, Ultra Clear Plus, coffee enemas and more. If I don't feel it > > I feel > >> like it isn't doing anything. > >> > >> Honestly I think you will struggle with your health conditions (for > > whatever > >> reason it brought you here) for a very long time taking this > > product. > >> > >> > >> > >> Iodomere > >> > >> > >> >I know it's not too popular on here with the corn and all but has > >> > anyone had any luck with it? Before I started really learning > > about > >> > iodine, I was taking just one of these a day. I first took > > iodorall but > >> > that was way too much for me at the time, I then used iosol but I > >> > wasn't very consistent and too much made me feel ick. With all my > >> > supplements I have ever taken, I always have to half what any > >> > practitioner says to take b/c I am very very sensitive, and this > >> > matches my disposition interestingly. Then I tried the iodomere > > and I > >> > didn't really notice a difference in a negative way so to me, > > that was > >> > good. Now after reading how much iodine everyone takes, I want to > > use > >> > the iodomere to build up slowly and then start Lugols. Iodomere > > has 200 > >> > mcg so imagine that means five of these guys are one 1mg. If > > anyone has > >> > any imputs or thoughts, I would appreciate. This chat group has > > been so > >> > helpful to me already. People on here are really driven to take > > charge > >> > of their health. > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I am not disputing that part of it(what the iodine doctors are saying the optimal range is). I was disputing the statement you made that a person who uses a iodomere to initially build up their iodine levels will struggle with their conditions for a long time and that article doesn't support your statement, how could it? The tests were looking for optimal range of iodine not testing for the least imposing way to go about it. And it seems like the article supports different ranges where improvement with patients was achieved using 12.5 daily. " With greater purity of USP grade materials now available, iodism may no longer be a problem at the level of I used in the present study. " There are enough " could " s and " maybe " s in this article that the gospel truth iodine has not been found yet. The reality of it is the iodine doctors were not collectively taught about iodine in medical school and had to learn about much in the way we are all, through word of mouth, reading and trial and error and with what we know of the periodic table and most importantly clinicial experience. Those studies simply can't take into appreciation all the factors of a human being. I have read so many studies that look just like that with numbers and MDs names written all over it that . It's dangerous to have a one size fits all approach that MDs can't get away from. Most people are highly toxic. I am one of them. It can not be emphasized enough not to rush the introduction of iodine into the body and to be extremely careful. I know of three people just in the last year who have had bad results with their experience of iodine so mabye there is a good reason for " iodophobia " that is mentioned after all. > > No the iodine doctors have stated that it takes supplementing with 50 mgs of > Lugols formula (either liquid or Iodoral tablets) for 3 mos to get to full > body saturation - provided you are not highly toxic and/or do not have > symporter issues. The Iodomere is not recommended by them at all. It is > too low of a dose and would take too much to get to the 50 mgs. > > Here is an article on optimum levels. > http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-01/IOD_01.htm > > > > > Re: Iodomere > > > > So the iodine doctors have said from their clinical experience that > > taking iodomere as a way to build up slowly before taking Lugols will > > make people struggle with their health conditions for a long time? I > > don't understand. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I still don't understand, I am not being argumentative here and I know you know that b/c you are not being defensive, but what's wrong with reaching saturation slowly? especially if dealing with mercury and bromide detox issues. I think it's safe to say most people who need a lot of iodine are the very same people who are very toxic. Just to specify I am looking for posts or links about people who have introduced iodine into themselves very slowly and what their experiences are. I have read some online not in chat group form, mainly from chiropractors who have success with iodomere. Maybe I'll be the first one on here, Who knows. I just know for me slower is better and I am looking for similar experiences which is what chat groups are for. I went back and read the introduction and I know down below you wrote that there are readings that this chat group is based on which I haven't read all of them yet but does it exclude slow introduction of iodine? > > > > >I am not disputing that part of it(what the iodine doctors are saying > > the optimal range is). I was disputing the statement you made that a > > person who uses a iodomere to initially build up their iodine levels > > will struggle with their conditions for a long time and that article > > doesn't support your statement, how could it? > > Because you are taking longer to get saturated - hence delaying the healing by being fully saturated. You will work up to it very slowly if at all. Because of all the toxins you are being bombarded with in the environment, water, and food you will need to have more iodine going in than is being knocked out. Iodomere will not keep up with this. The Iodine docs used to say that 25 mgs was the minimum dose to do this but they are beginning to think that it may be 50 mgs. I did not mean for that article link to " prove " anything just to point you to more info on saturation. Many people who come here do not read the literature that this group is based upon. > > > The tests were looking > > for optimal range of iodine not testing for the least imposing way to > > go about it. And it seems like the article supports different ranges > > where improvement with patients was achieved using 12.5 daily. " With > > greater purity of USP grade materials now available, iodism may no > > longer be a problem at the level of I used in the present study. " > > There are enough " could " s and " maybe " s in this article that the > > gospel truth iodine has not been found yet. > > I agree we do not know it all which is why I suggested that you take a loading test to check your progress. You may feel better but that does not mean that your entire body has what it needs. > > > > The reality of it is the iodine doctors were not collectively taught > > about iodine in medical school and had to learn about much in the way > > we are all, through word of mouth, reading and trial and error and > > with what we know of the periodic table and most importantly > > clinicial experience. Those studies simply can't take into > > appreciation all the factors of a human being. I have read so many > > studies that look just like that with numbers and MDs names written > > all over it that . It's dangerous to have a one size fits all > > approach that MDs can't get away from. Most people are highly toxic. > > I am one of them. It can not be emphasized enough not to rush the > > introduction of iodine into the body and to be extremely careful. I > > know of three people just in the last year who have had bad results > > with their experience of iodine so mabye there is a good reason > > for " iodophobia " that is mentioned after all. > > Again this is a personal choice to supplement with iodine. You can take it as fast or slowly as you want. These doctors learned from history by studying doctors who did use high doses of iodine. You utimately make the decision of your own path. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Nothing is wasted. The people who I knew that felt that they took too much iodine and had their adrenals and other things set back by it felt that they had wasted their time by doing that. The more important thing is learning how to listen to your body. You have to trust your instinct at some point, that something greater than your mind is guiding you through this, be it a higher power or simply intuition. I have studied healing for years and the one thing that all the people I know who have actually healed had in common, no matter how different their therapies, was learning to listen to their body. Personally this has been my biggest life lesson that being sick has taught me. If I am going to make a mistake, they are going to be my mistakes vs. doctors or people on chat groups who may all be well- meaning but can't know my body as well I do. So we'll see how my gradual increase of iodomere affects my eventual higher doses of iodine compared to last time I tried the higher doses like iodoral. I am not locking down my expectations for an outcome so I will honestly report back what happens. Maybe it won't make a difference at all and when I get to those higher doses I will feel just as many symptoms as last time. We'll see. > > > I took 50mg Iodoral for 2 years, but that dose was actually too low for me. now I think that was 2 years wasted. > Gracia > > > > >I am not disputing that part of it(what the iodine doctors are saying > > the optimal range is). I was disputing the statement you made that a > > person who uses a iodomere to initially build up their iodine levels > > will struggle with their conditions for a long time and that article > > doesn't support your statement, how could it? > > Because you are taking longer to get saturated - hence delaying the healing by being fully saturated. You will work up to it very slowly if at all. Because of all the toxins you are being bombarded with in the environment, water, and food you will need to have more iodine going in than is being knocked out. Iodomere will not keep up with this. The Iodine docs used to say that 25 mgs was the minimum dose to do this but they are beginning to think that it may be 50 mgs. I did not mean for that article link to " prove " anything just to point you to more info on saturation. Many people who come here do not read the literature that this group is based upon. > > > The tests were looking > > for optimal range of iodine not testing for the least imposing way to > > go about it. And it seems like the article supports different ranges > > where improvement with patients was achieved using 12.5 daily. " With > > greater purity of USP grade materials now available, iodism may no > > longer be a problem at the level of I used in the present study. " > > There are enough " could " s and " maybe " s in this article that the > > gospel truth iodine has not been found yet. > > I agree we do not know it all which is why I suggested that you take a loading test to check your progress. You may feel better but that does not mean that your entire body has what it needs. > > > > The reality of it is the iodine doctors were not collectively taught > > about iodine in medical school and had to learn about much in the way > > we are all, through word of mouth, reading and trial and error and > > with what we know of the periodic table and most importantly > > clinicial experience. Those studies simply can't take into > > appreciation all the factors of a human being. I have read so many > > studies that look just like that with numbers and MDs names written > > all over it that . It's dangerous to have a one size fits all > > approach that MDs can't get away from. Most people are highly toxic. > > I am one of them. It can not be emphasized enough not to rush the > > introduction of iodine into the body and to be extremely careful. I > > know of three people just in the last year who have had bad results > > with their experience of iodine so mabye there is a good reason > > for " iodophobia " that is mentioned after all. > > Again this is a personal choice to supplement with iodine. You can take it as fast or slowly as you want. These doctors learned from history by studying doctors who did use high doses of iodine. You utimately make the decision of your own path. > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1741 - Release Date: 10/23/2008 7:54 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 > OTOH I would question the interpretation that adrenals were " set back " by iodine. in my experience iodine feeds adrenals, although I still take cortef 5mg 4X a day and like it very much. I would say the adrenal support could have made the difference in your success if you had run down adrenals and were taking the larger amounts of iodine. > I was untreated for 50+ years, so yes 2 years without proper treatment is wasted years to me. In chinese medicine they believe illness stems from stagnant energy. I know how you feel about wasted time but how does that feel in your body when you think that? There frustrations and regrets have been a huge stumbling block in the past for me. > > Nothing is wasted. The people who I knew that felt that they took > too much iodine and had their adrenals and other things set back by > it felt that they had wasted their time by doing that. The more > important thing is learning how to listen to your body. You have to > trust your instinct at some point, that something greater than your > mind is guiding you through this, be it a higher power or simply > intuition. I have studied healing for years and the one thing that > all the people I know who have actually healed had in common, no > matter how different their therapies, was learning to listen to their > body. Personally this has been my biggest life lesson that being sick > has taught me. If I am going to make a mistake, they are going to be > my mistakes vs. doctors or people on chat groups who may all be well- > meaning but can't know my body as well I do. > > So we'll see how my gradual increase of iodomere affects my eventual > higher doses of iodine compared to last time I tried the higher doses > like iodoral. I am not locking down my expectations for an outcome so > I will honestly report back what happens. Maybe it won't make a > difference at all and when I get to those higher doses I will feel > just as many symptoms as last time. We'll see. > > --- > Recent Activity > a.. 29New Members > Visit Your Group > Health > Heartburn or Worse > > What symptoms > > are most serious? > > Meditation and > Lovingkindness > > A Group > > to share and learn. > > Search Ads > Get new customers. > > List your web site > > in Search. > . > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1743 - Release Date: 10/24/2008 8:33 AM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 Steph, Not to belabor a point but just in trying to read as much as I can on iodine I came across this article http://www.iodine4health.com/overviews/clinicians/west_clinician.htm In it the DC was basically saying what I was learning what worked for me through my intuition/experience. He said to go about iodine slowly building up and he uses prolamine, which is more than iodomere and gives me a guide of what I am working up to besides the interesting link you had me read but it's a small amount compared to iodorall none the less. I am just curious, do you find West to know his stuff on iodine or do you think he's not as much " in the know " as the other more famous names. > > > > OTOH I would question the interpretation that adrenals were " set > back " by iodine. in my experience iodine feeds adrenals, although I > still take cortef 5mg 4X a day and like it very much. > > I would say the adrenal support could have made the difference in > your success if you had run down adrenals and were taking the larger > amounts of iodine. > > > I was untreated for 50+ years, so yes 2 years without proper > treatment is wasted years to me. > > In chinese medicine they believe illness stems from stagnant energy. > I know how you feel about wasted time but how does that feel in your > body when you think that? There frustrations and regrets have been a > huge stumbling block in the past for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing is wasted. The people who I knew that felt that they took > > too much iodine and had their adrenals and other things set back > by > > it felt that they had wasted their time by doing that. The more > > important thing is learning how to listen to your body. You have > to > > trust your instinct at some point, that something greater than > your > > mind is guiding you through this, be it a higher power or simply > > intuition. I have studied healing for years and the one thing > that > > all the people I know who have actually healed had in common, no > > matter how different their therapies, was learning to listen to > their > > body. Personally this has been my biggest life lesson that being > sick > > has taught me. If I am going to make a mistake, they are going to > be > > my mistakes vs. doctors or people on chat groups who may all be > well- > > meaning but can't know my body as well I do. > > > > So we'll see how my gradual increase of iodomere affects my > eventual > > higher doses of iodine compared to last time I tried the higher > doses > > like iodoral. I am not locking down my expectations for an > outcome so > > I will honestly report back what happens. Maybe it won't make a > > difference at all and when I get to those higher doses I will > feel > > just as many symptoms as last time. We'll see. > > > > --- > > Recent Activity > > a.. 29New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Health > > Heartburn or Worse > > > > What symptoms > > > > are most serious? > > > > Meditation and > > Lovingkindness > > > > A Group > > > > to share and learn. > > > > Search Ads > > Get new customers. > > > > List your web site > > > > in Search. > > . > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ---------- > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1743 - Release Date: > 10/24/2008 8:33 AM > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2008 Report Share Posted October 26, 2008 One more quick question. Once you reach iodine sufficiency, what do you do in terms of supplementation according to West. Does one turn to iodine rich foods at this point? > > > > > > > OTOH I would question the interpretation that adrenals > were " set > > back " by iodine. in my experience iodine feeds adrenals, although > I > > still take cortef 5mg 4X a day and like it very much. > > > > I would say the adrenal support could have made the difference in > > your success if you had run down adrenals and were taking the > larger > > amounts of iodine. > > > > > I was untreated for 50+ years, so yes 2 years without proper > > treatment is wasted years to me. > > > > In chinese medicine they believe illness stems from stagnant > energy. > > I know how you feel about wasted time but how does that feel in > your > > body when you think that? There frustrations and regrets have been > a > > huge stumbling block in the past for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nothing is wasted. The people who I knew that felt that they > took > > > too much iodine and had their adrenals and other things set > back > > by > > > it felt that they had wasted their time by doing that. The more > > > important thing is learning how to listen to your body. You > have > > to > > > trust your instinct at some point, that something greater than > > your > > > mind is guiding you through this, be it a higher power or > simply > > > intuition. I have studied healing for years and the one thing > > that > > > all the people I know who have actually healed had in common, > no > > > matter how different their therapies, was learning to listen to > > their > > > body. Personally this has been my biggest life lesson that > being > > sick > > > has taught me. If I am going to make a mistake, they are going > to > > be > > > my mistakes vs. doctors or people on chat groups who may all be > > well- > > > meaning but can't know my body as well I do. > > > > > > So we'll see how my gradual increase of iodomere affects my > > eventual > > > higher doses of iodine compared to last time I tried the higher > > doses > > > like iodoral. I am not locking down my expectations for an > > outcome so > > > I will honestly report back what happens. Maybe it won't make a > > > difference at all and when I get to those higher doses I will > > feel > > > just as many symptoms as last time. We'll see. > > > > > > --- > > > Recent Activity > > > a.. 29New Members > > > Visit Your Group > > > Health > > > Heartburn or Worse > > > > > > What symptoms > > > > > > are most serious? > > > > > > Meditation and > > > Lovingkindness > > > > > > A Group > > > > > > to share and learn. > > > > > > Search Ads > > > Get new customers. > > > > > > List your web site > > > > > > in Search. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > ---------- > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1743 - Release Date: > > 10/24/2008 8:33 AM > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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