Water Kefir

[Guest guest]

Yes, that's exactly right!

On Jan 28, 2011, at 9:09 AM, bbgmnn@... wrote:

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> What do you mean by adding minerals because RO is the best choice in my house

but is void of minerals.

> thanks

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[Guest guest]

It was brought to my attention how fruit can damage water grains. It

wouldn't be the fruit; it would be the sulfur ON the fruit. That would kill

your water grains eventually. Maybe that is what Dom is referring to.

Marilyn

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:45 AM, <curlyw2kids@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Going back to his article, I see that I misremembered what he said about fruit

in the first fermentation. (Sorry!) He said that fruit during the first

fermentation inhibits grain growth. He also explains his theory of why. Here is

the link and you can click on " water kefir " somewhere:

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

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[Guest guest]

I just checked out this website and loved it. However, he mentions a water

kefir recipe I would like to try with ginger, molasses, sugar, egg shells

and a few other things and I couldn't find the actual recipe. Does anyone

else have a great ginger beer kefir recipe?

Devra

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of sthumming

Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:27 AM

Subject: Re: Water Kefir

Going back to his article, I see that I misremembered what he said about

fruit in the first fermentation. (Sorry!) He said that fruit during the

first fermentation inhibits grain growth. He also explains his theory of

why. Here is the link and you can click on " water kefir " somewhere:

http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

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> > ...Not sure about the comment about not using fruit. There are so many

> > opinions on the subject and I'd say do what you're comfortable with....

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[Guest guest]

Strain your water kefir while it is still sweet and do a second

fermentation. Cap it tightly. I use plastic water bottles because I heard

too many horror stories using glass.

Marilyn

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:15 AM, apelles5 <apelles5@...> wrote:

> I was checking out that lacto-fermentation link and I was wondering if one

> could use the water kefir instead of the whey for those recipes. Anyone try

> it?

> Also is there a way to get the really fizzy water kefir without it tasting

> so much like vinegar? Am I just waiting too long in the first process?

> Thanks,

> Amy

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[Guest guest]

Different people advise different approaches, but I have found that putting the

sugar in hot water sometimes results in syrupy kefir. I actually chill my water

before adding the sugar. So far that is working for me.

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From: Lydia <lsweed@...>

Sent: Sun, March 6, 2011 10:12:56 AM

Subject: water kefir

Just got my grains. Am I supposed to put the sugar in real hot water

like with Kombucha, and let it cool. Or just add sugar to the cool water. ?

Lydia

[Guest guest]

Hi Lydia,

I am fairly new to kefir making so I will share my novice experience with you.

I just use my well water at the temp it comes from the tap (I live in Michigan,

USA and it is winter so the tap water is cooler right now) and shake the jar

with the sugar and water until most of the sugar is dissolved then I add my

water kefir grains. I then brew it at room temp (about 68 degrees F) for 24

hours, remove the grains and add any fruit/herb/fruit juice/tea flavorings and

brew for another 24 hours before putting it in the fridge. My grains are very

happily multiplying like crazy so it must be an ok way of brewing.

So far my favorite flavor has been adding fresh pureed strawberries and candied

ginger to the second brewing. The sugar is still consumed some even in the

second brewing by the kefir critter left in the kefir so it comes out just

softly sweet. Yum! I seconded brewed a batch with fresh-frozen wild

blueberries last night and cannot wait to try it.

I hope this helps and you get other input as well to give you some ideas to

experiment to see what works best for you. Enjoy.

Carol Onefreespirit

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> Just got my grains. Am I supposed to put the sugar in real hot water

> like with Kombucha, and let it cool. Or just add sugar to the cool water. ?

Lydia

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[Guest guest]

On Dom's site, he suggests brewing with a sealed lid for 2 days leaving at

least 2 cups of air space. Then transfering to another bottle sealed for

one day before refrigerating. I have been doing this for the last few times

and am getting great fizz, but my grains are multiplying more slowly. I

have been putting my 2nd ferment in 33.8oz plastic bottles. (thats what I

had)

He also suggests adding 1/8t of baking soda. Does anybody know why?

Does water kefir need to be covered because of light like milk kefir?

Thanks,

~Karla

[Guest guest]

I have been experimenting with water kefir. I have searched the Adama site for

information on water kefir for type O and haven't figured out whether or not it

is an avoid. I don't know if I am a secreter. My body doesn't seem to like water

kefir but friends have encouraged me to continue making it for probiotic health.

I've just made my 6th batch and I can't get the sweetness to a level I can

tolerate. The first couple of batches I followed recipes, using fruit beneficial

to type O, and the grains multiplied and were healthy but the resulting drink

was too sweet for me. Then I reduced sugar to the point that the grains were

dissolving due to lack of food but it was still too sweet. Brought the grains

back to health and tried letting it ferment till it almost became vinegar but

then it had a scum on the bottom that I didn't like (yeast?) and the drink still

tasted sweet. Sugars have always been an issue for me and I don't tolerate much

fresh fruit intake, fruit juice, or dried fruit. I get a sinus ache almost

immediately after drinking the water kefir I make and have noticed thick mucus

in my throat to the point that I need to cough it up. I have had an issue with

Candida in the past and have sensitivities to yeast. Writing this I realize that

it is time to stop making and ingesting water kefir. If it is so wonderful for

my gut, why does it make me feel so bad? Can anyone tell me whether it is an

avoid? Share your experience with water kefir? Thank you.

[Guest guest]

Tell your friends that you can't eat kifer. It's an avoid for all o's.

Water Kefir

I have been experimenting with water kefir. I have searched the Adama site for

information on water kefir for type O and haven't figured out whether or not it

is an avoid. I don't know if I am a secreter. My body doesn't seem to like water

kefir but friends have encouraged me to continue making it for probiotic health.

I've just made my 6th batch and I can't get the sweetness to a level I can

tolerate. The first couple of batches I followed recipes, using fruit beneficial

to type O, and the grains multiplied and were healthy but the resulting drink

was too sweet for me. Then I reduced sugar to the point that the grains were

dissolving due to lack of food but it was still too sweet. Brought the grains

back to health and tried letting it ferment till it almost became vinegar but

then it had a scum on the bottom that I didn't like (yeast?) and the drink still

tasted sweet. Sugars have always been an issue for me and I don't tolerate much

fresh fruit intake, fruit juice, or dried fruit. I get a sinus ache almost

immediately after drinking the water kefir I make and have noticed thick mucus

in my throat to the point that I need to cough it up. I have had an issue with

Candida in the past and have sensitivities to yeast. Writing this I realize that

it is time to stop making and ingesting water kefir. If it is so wonderful for

my gut, why does it make me feel so bad? Can anyone tell me whether it is an

avoid? Share your experience with water kefir? Thank you.

[Guest guest]

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:34 PM, deb_ellingson wrote:

> I have been experimenting with water kefir.

Um....tough stuff, I can not take it. But kefir is an avoid for Os

anyway.

For gut health, try rice bran instead, the good gut bacteria love it

and it is roto rooter for the blood vessels as a side effect:-) It's

a true superfood. And it works for Os.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Are you guys sure that water kefir is an avoid for Os? I thought it was the milk

that made regular kefir an avoid.

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From: Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...>

Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 2:01:27 AM

Subject: Re: Water Kefir

 

On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:34 PM, deb_ellingson wrote:

> I have been experimenting with water kefir.

Um....tough stuff, I can not take it. But kefir is an avoid for Os

anyway.

For gut health, try rice bran instead, the good gut bacteria love it

and it is roto rooter for the blood vessels as a side effect:-) It's

a true superfood. And it works for Os.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Irene. I've never used rice bran. Will look for it. How should I use it?

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> > I have been experimenting with water kefir.

>

> Um....tough stuff, I can not take it. But kefir is an avoid for Os

> anyway.

>

> For gut health, try rice bran instead, the good gut bacteria love it

> and it is roto rooter for the blood vessels as a side effect:-) It's

> a true superfood. And it works for Os.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

[Guest guest]

Your reactions to it means it is an avoid for you.

Ignore your bossy friend. It doesn't matter what any book or study says,

it's how your system responds to it.

I have a know-it-all bossy friend also, it's a lost cause trying to tell

them something different from what they already decided is true.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:21 PM, deb_ellingson <deberellingson@...>wrote:

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> Please tell me where you found the information - that water kefir is an

> avoid. Was it on the adama site and I missed it? I will need to show proof

> to one particular friend. She is very bossy. I avoid all dairy products and

> can't tolerate goat or sheep milk, but water kefir is non-dairy. Thank you.

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> > Tell your friends that you can't eat kifer. It's an avoid for all o's.

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> > I have been experimenting with water kefir. I have searched the Adama

> site for information on water kefir for type O and haven't figured out

> whether or not it is an avoid. I don't know if I am a secreter. My body

> doesn't seem to like water kefir but friends have encouraged me to continue

> making it for probiotic health. I've just made my 6th batch and I can't get

> the sweetness to a level I can tolerate. The first couple of batches I

> followed recipes, using fruit beneficial to type O, and the grains

> multiplied and were healthy but the resulting drink was too sweet for me.

> Then I reduced sugar to the point that the grains were dissolving due to

> lack of food but it was still too sweet. Brought the grains back to health

> and tried letting it ferment till it almost became vinegar but then it had a

> scum on the bottom that I didn't like (yeast?) and the drink still tasted

> sweet. Sugars have always been an issue for me and I don't tolerate much

> fresh fruit intake, fruit juice, or dried fruit. I get a sinus ache almost

> immediately after drinking the water kefir I make and have noticed thick

> mucus in my throat to the point that I need to cough it up. I have had an

> issue with Candida in the past and have sensitivities to yeast. Writing this

> I realize that it is time to stop making and ingesting water kefir. If it is

> so wonderful for my gut, why does it make me feel so bad? Can anyone tell me

> whether it is an avoid? Share your experience with water kefir? Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Irene,

How much would you use? Would it matter whether you use 1 teaspoon or a

tablespoon like on salad or in a smoothie?

>

> For gut health, try rice bran instead, the good gut bacteria love it

> and it is roto rooter for the blood vessels as a side effect:-) It's

> a true superfood. And it works for Os.

>

> Namaste,

> Irene

> --

> Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

> P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

> www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

> " Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

>

[Guest guest]

On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:06 AM, wrote:

> Irene,

> How much would you use? Would it matter whether you use 1 teaspoon

> or a tablespoon like on salad or in a smoothie?

Hi ,

Rice bran is a superfood, so you can as much as you like. A half cup

of it makes a nice cereal option, if you eat cereal, with the right

things added for example.

Personally I like to use it as a thickener in soups and stews and

mixed food inventions in the wok.

I " wok " a lot of meals - start with onions and maybe masala spices,

add some kind of animal protein (meat/fish/shrimp etc), some kind of

green and red veg, and a little of some kind of " other " veg with more

oomph, like sweet potato, rutabaga or parsnips etc, plus a dash of

teff, millet or quinoa, a bit of rice bran and lots more flavoring

from herbs, and spices, some red wine and water. I like a thick

enough to cut, soup consistency. Juicy food to eat with a fork :-)

Just add things in the reverse of cooking time needed, order.

I stash some in the freezer for other meals to just heat and eat. No

two inventions are the same. But the " formula " is similar. I usually

have a variety of inventions in the freezer. Or I try to :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "

[Guest guest]

Thank you Irene. I'd been using brown rice flour for my thinckening. It's good

to know I don't have to order it also.

Re: Re: Water Kefir

On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:06 AM, wrote:

> Irene,

> How much would you use? Would it matter whether you use 1 teaspoon

> or a tablespoon like on salad or in a smoothie?

Hi ,

Rice bran is a superfood, so you can as much as you like. A half cup

of it makes a nice cereal option, if you eat cereal, with the right

things added for example.

Personally I like to use it as a thickener in soups and stews and

mixed food inventions in the wok.

I " wok " a lot of meals - start with onions and maybe masala spices,

add some kind of animal protein (meat/fish/shrimp etc), some kind of

green and red veg, and a little of some kind of " other " veg with more

oomph, like sweet potato, rutabaga or parsnips etc, plus a dash of

teff, millet or quinoa, a bit of rice bran and lots more flavoring

from herbs, and spices, some red wine and water. I like a thick

enough to cut, soup consistency. Juicy food to eat with a fork :-)

Just add things in the reverse of cooking time needed, order.

I stash some in the freezer for other meals to just heat and eat. No

two inventions are the same. But the " formula " is similar. I usually

have a variety of inventions in the freezer. Or I try to :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.

P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

" Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it. "