Results of Adrenal Stress Profile (Saliva) from Genova please help?

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Hi Folks,

I got the results of the above test back today please have a look at

the results and see if you think I should order some HC ?

Sample 1 post awakening outside range 2.7 (range 12 - 22)

Sample 2 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 2.5 (range 5.0 - 9.0)

Sample 3 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 0.5 (range 3.0 - 7.0)

Sample 4 (prior to sleep) outside range 0.4 (range 1.0 - 3.0)

Total daily cortisol 6.1 outside range which is 21 - 41.

It says on the results:

AdrenaL Fatigue - Non adapted response This generally indicates

falling levels of both cotisol and DHEA from excessive

stimulation/secretion over long periods of time. It can also reflect

the effects of exogenous use of DHEA in adrenal exhaustion states

after months of DHEA supplemenation.

Dr P put Adrenal fatigue is very evident here and you need full

support as we planned.

Dr P does not say what he means by full support I am assuming he

means with the Cortef (as he said I may need this) and other

supplements VIt C etc I will try to get hold of him by phone but as I

cannot have my phone on at my desk at work and all of my calls are

recorded (its a call centre & I do not want this call to be recorded)

I am wondering if this may be a bit difficult. I may leave him a

message and ask him to call hubby back, I can give hubby a list of

questions.

IN THE MEANTIME FOLKS DO YOU THINK THESE RESULTS WARRANT ACTION WITH

THE CORTEF AS IF FOLKS THINK IT DOES I CAN ORDER SOME AND AWAIT

FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM DR P?

IF YES TO CORTEF WHERE SHOULD I ORDER IT FROM AND IN WHAT DOSE?

I WILL ORDER/PURCHASE THE VIT C AND CO Q10 AND START ON VITC 1000 ONE

A DAY AND Q10 30 ONE A DAY.

PLEASE HELP LOVE FROM ONE VERY TIRED ALICE XXXX

[Guest guest]

Yes Alice, I would say you most definitely need hc.

You can get it from www.internationalpharmacy.com, they sell Cortef

in 10 mg tabs and Westward hydrocortisone (a generic) in 20 mg tabs,

the Westward is a lot cheaper.

Mo

> I got the results of the above test back today please have a look

at

> the results and see if you think I should order some HC ?

>

> Sample 1 post awakening outside range 2.7 (range 12 - 22)

>

> Sample 2 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 2.5 (range 5.0 - 9.0)

>

> Sample 3 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 0.5 (range 3.0 - 7.0)

>

> Sample 4 (prior to sleep) outside range 0.4 (range 1.0 - 3.0)

>

>

> Total daily cortisol 6.1 outside range which is 21 - 41.

>

>

> It says on the results:

>

> AdrenaL Fatigue - Non adapted response This generally indicates

> falling levels of both cotisol and DHEA from excessive

> stimulation/secretion over long periods of time. It can also

reflect

> the effects of exogenous use of DHEA in adrenal exhaustion states

> after months of DHEA supplemenation.

>

> Dr P put Adrenal fatigue is very evident here and you need full

> support as we planned.

>

> Dr P does not say what he means by full support I am assuming he

> means with the Cortef (as he said I may need this) and other

> supplements VIt C etc I will try to get hold of him by phone but as

I

> cannot have my phone on at my desk at work and all of my calls are

> recorded (its a call centre & I do not want this call to be

recorded)

> I am wondering if this may be a bit difficult. I may leave him a

> message and ask him to call hubby back, I can give hubby a list of

> questions.

>

>

> IN THE MEANTIME FOLKS DO YOU THINK THESE RESULTS WARRANT ACTION

WITH

> THE CORTEF AS IF FOLKS THINK IT DOES I CAN ORDER SOME AND AWAIT

> FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS FROM DR P?

>

> IF YES TO CORTEF WHERE SHOULD I ORDER IT FROM AND IN WHAT DOSE?

>

> I WILL ORDER/PURCHASE THE VIT C AND CO Q10 AND START ON VITC 1000

ONE

> A DAY AND Q10 30 ONE A DAY.

>

>

>

> PLEASE HELP LOVE FROM ONE VERY TIRED ALICE XXXX

>

[Guest guest]

Dear very tired Alice.

I got the results of the above test back today

please have a look at

the results and see if you think I should order some HC ?

Sample 1 post awakening outside range 2.7 (range 12 - 22) This result is VERY low. Your cortisol should be at

its highest in the morning.

Sample 2 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 2.5 (range 5.0 - 9.0) - Again, this hasn't budged. You must feel pretty

awful in the morning.

Sample 3 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 0.5 (range 3.0 - 7.0) - Cortisol should lower during the day, but this is

far too low Alice

Sample 4 (prior to sleep) outside range 0.4 (range 1.0 - 3.0) ..and it should be lowest when you go to bed, but

again, not this low.

I can't remember what Dr P recommended when you

saw him but these results definitely indicate that you DO need HC and I would

buy some as soon as possible. Also, if you read what Dr Thierry Hertoghe

recommends on the message I have just posted on HYDROCORTISONE, perhaps you

should also get 25 mgs DHEA. You can buy this from www.pharmwest.com - they have an office in

Ireland.

Telephone Dr P

in the evening, he will understand your difficulty with using the phone at your

work.

I would

recommend using CoQ10 at much more than the daily recommended dose. You need to

start with around 300 mgs and you need about 2/3000 mgs Vitamin C. You can also

use liquorice tincture or liquorice root and make yourself liquorice tea (or

even chew the root) and boost all of these with Siberian Ginseng. All of these

are excellent supplements to help boost the adrenals.

[Guest guest]

Cheers Mo,

I have just ordered 50 5mcg and 100 10 mcg Cortef from Int Pharmacy and

am getting Vit C & Q 10 (half price offer until Thurs!) from Holland &

Barrett tommorow. I have left a msg for DR P to call me re the Hc

treatment as I have no idea what to do, although I think I will need to

stop t3, t4 and NAX for a bit before starting Hc and start the HC on

low dose & build up gradually.

Sooo blooming tired...

Here's hoping for better health for the New Year.

Lots of LOve Alice

" Mo Osborne " <moosborne@...> wrote:

>

> Yes Alice, I would say you most definitely need hc.

> You can get it from www.internationalpharmacy.com, they sell Cortef

> in 10 mg tabs and Westward hydrocortisone (a generic) in 20 mg tabs,

> the Westward is a lot cheaper.

>

> Mo

[Guest guest]

HI SHEILA,

THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY I HAVE POSTED COMMENTS IN BETWEEN YOURS, THIS

MAKES IT EASIER FOR MY BRAIN.

LOVE ALICE XX

<sheilaturner@...> wrote:

>

> Dear very tired Alice.

>

> Sample 1 post awakening outside range 2.7 (range 12 - 22) This

result is

> VERY low. Your cortisol should be at its highest in the morning.

>

> Sample 2 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 2.5 (range 5.0 - 9.0) -

Again,

> this hasn't budged. You must feel pretty awful in the morning.

YES I DO FEEL PRETTY AWFUL IN THE MORNING, THIS MORNING WAS A REAL

UPHILL STRUGGLE GETTING TO WORK.

>

> Sample 3 (plus 4 - 5 hours) outside range 0.5 (range 3.0 - 7.0) -

Cortisol

> should lower during the day, but this is far too low Alice

>

> Sample 4 (prior to sleep) outside range 0.4 (range 1.0 - 3.0) ..and

it

> should be lowest when you go to bed, but again, not this low.

>

these results definitely indicate that you DO need HC and I would buy

some as soon as

> possible.

I HAVE ORDERED 5 MCG AND 10 MCG CORTEF FROM INT PHARM; BUT HAVE NO

IDEA REALLY ABOUT TREATING MYSELF WITH THIS. I LEFT A MSG FOR DR P

TODAY.

Also, if you read what Dr Thierry Hertoghe recommends on the

> message I have just posted on HYDROCORTISONE

THANKS FOR THAT I PRINTED THAT OFF, V.HELPFUL.

> I would recommend using CoQ10 at much more than the daily

recommended dose.

> You need to start with around 300 mgs and you need about 2/3000 mgs

Vitamin

> C.

I AM GOING TO GET ABOVE SUPPLEMENTS FROM HOLLAND BARRETT TOMMOROW

You can also use liquorice tincture or liquorice root and make

yourself

> liquorice tea (or even chew the root)

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE LICORICE ROOT

and boost all of these with Siberian

> Ginseng.

I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED THE PANAX GINSENG IN VIALS FROM CHINESE

HERBALISTS ETC ALSO TASTES NICE!

All of these are excellent supplements to help boost the adrenals.

>