Re: Iodine/Bicarb/ColloidalSilver/Clay/Dill/MMS working together

December 10, 2008

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iodine From: yburkett@...Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:58:58 +0000Subject: Iodine/Bicarb/ColloidalSilver/Clay/Dill/MMS working together

The good news is that my wife and I are ridding ourselves offungus. The bad news is that we were scratching like hounds.The fungus is actually coming up through the pores of our skinwherever the fungus was lingering just below the surface. I made theamazing discovery that brown spots (also called liver spots) arenothing but fungus! Only a few tiny brown spots appeared on the backof my hands before taking the MMS (about 6 drops/day average forabout 3 weeks). At present, my hands are covered "wall-to-wall" withthis brown fungus, and after applying some concentrated MMS solution(24 drops) with 7.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution on them, they arescabbing up and dropping off. My wife does not have this problemwith her hands - just her feet and lower legs.We finally found out how to stop the intense itching, at least for10 hours at a stretch. That is to apply colloidal silver, and thenrub sodium bicarbonate over the affected areas. It will burn "likethe dickens", but only lasts about 10 minutes. Then, cover thesodium bicarbonate with living clay from www.livingclayco.com. Whenthe pain became too intense, we applied fresh dill weed by stuffingit into our socks - long socks. It works like a dream. We hope to becompletely fungus-free within a few weeks. When the itching returns,we simply spray the colloidal silver on, and rub in some more sodiumbicarbonate.Before taking MMS, my wife and I took sodium bicarbonate internally.My wife had taken enough to cause some fungus to appear on thesurface of her foot, but not much else. The MMS is very effective atpushing out the fungus. Now I know why old people hobble around; itis fungus in their legs and especially their feet!In the final analysis, it seems logical that it is fungus thatultimately terminates us all; it is just a matter of time. I agreewith Jim Humble's "guess" that MMS can stretch out your lifespan byabout 25 years because of its ability to handle fungus.As a side note, my wife and I have also switched from takingpotassium iodide to taking Lugol's 5% solution (yes, I purchased itfrom the U.S. - you can still get the more concentrated solution).The Lugol's is much stronger in terms of attacking fungus. It mightalso be playing a role in routing the fungus, due to the presence ofelemental iodine in the solution. It is rough on the stomach,however, so take it during a meal. We are presently taking about 2-3 drops per day, which translates to 15-22 mg/day.Since both MMS and Lugol's are oxidizers, we take them both in themorning, and obstain from taking reducers (antioxidants) such asvitamin C or E for at least 4 hours or more. & Send e-mail faster without improving your typing skills. Get your Hotmail® account.

December 10, 2008

How did you know you had this fungus?AliOn Dec 10, 2008, at 4:58 AM, yburkett wrote:The good news is that my wife and I are ridding ourselves offungus. The bad news is that we were scratching like hounds.The fungus is actually coming up through the pores of our skinwherever the fungus was lingering just below the surface. I made theamazing discovery that brown spots (also called liver spots) arenothing but fungus! Only a few tiny brown spots appeared on the backof my hands before taking the MMS (about 6 drops/day average forabout 3 weeks). At present, my hands are covered "wall-to-wall" withthis brown fungus, and after applying some concentrated MMS solution(24 drops) with 7.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution on them, they arescabbing up and dropping off. My wife does not have this problemwith her hands - just her feet and lower legs.We finally found out how to stop the intense itching, at least for10 hours at a stretch. That is to apply colloidal silver, and thenrub sodium bicarbonate over the affected areas. It will burn "likethe dickens", but only lasts about 10 minutes. Then, cover thesodium bicarbonate with living clay from www.livingclayco.com. Whenthe pain became too intense, we applied fresh dill weed by stuffingit into our socks - long socks. It works like a dream. We hope to becompletely fungus-free within a few weeks. When the itching returns,we simply spray the colloidal silver on, and rub in some more sodiumbicarbonate.Before taking MMS, my wife and I took sodium bicarbonate internally.My wife had taken enough to cause some fungus to appear on thesurface of her foot, but not much else. The MMS is very effective atpushing out the fungus. Now I know why old people hobble around; itis fungus in their legs and especially their feet!In the final analysis, it seems logical that it is fungus thatultimately terminates us all; it is just a matter of time. I agreewith Jim Humble's "guess" that MMS can stretch out your lifespan byabout 25 years because of its ability to handle fungus.As a side note, my wife and I have also switched from takingpotassium iodide to taking Lugol's 5% solution (yes, I purchased itfrom the U.S. - you can still get the more concentrated solution).The Lugol's is much stronger in terms of attacking fungus. It mightalso be playing a role in routing the fungus, due to the presence ofelemental iodine in the solution. It is rough on the stomach,however, so take it during a meal. We are presently taking about 2-3 drops per day, which translates to 15-22 mg/day.Since both MMS and Lugol's are oxidizers, we take them both in themorning, and obstain from taking reducers (antioxidants) such asvitamin C or E for at least 4 hours or more. &

December 10, 2008

Ali, I only suspected that the brown dots on my hand might be fungi.

Sometimes called liver spots or aging spots, I have proven to myself

that they are in fact fungi. They burn like crazy when I apply

sodium bicarbonate, calcium bentonite clay, or tincture of iodine to

them. When I put MMS (sodium chlorite activated with citric acid) on

them, it is like someone is holding a blowtorch to my hand. They

come to the surface and their true size is revealed. Quite large,

they then become covered with a scab which eventually drops off,

leaving normal skin. Their natural defense for this attack is that

they leak (or it is because they have been killed/wounded?). When

they are gaining the " upper hand " , the itching is intense. When I am

winning, they cause a burning sensation, at least until I defeat

them with my concoctions, especially MMS. MMS is king (queen) at

getting rid of skin eruptions. Iodine is a close second, about tied

with sodium bicarbonate. This is based on the subjective pain

factor. I was almost screaming at times from the pain; I then needed

to find something to relieve it without resorting to neutralizing

the alkalinity of the attacking substance. I tried willow (from

which aspirin is derived) and bromelain to no avail. Only a direct

application of dill weed did the trick.

>

> > The good news is that my wife and I are ridding ourselves of

> > fungus. The bad news is that we were scratching like hounds.

> >

> > The fungus is actually coming up through the pores of our skin

> > wherever the fungus was lingering just below the surface. I made

the

> > amazing discovery that brown spots (also called liver spots) are

> > nothing but fungus! Only a few tiny brown spots appeared on the

back

> > of my hands before taking the MMS (about 6 drops/day average for

> > about 3 weeks). At present, my hands are covered " wall-to-wall "

with

> > this brown fungus, and after applying some concentrated MMS

solution

> > (24 drops) with 7.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution on them, they

are

> > scabbing up and dropping off. My wife does not have this problem

> > with her hands - just her feet and lower legs.

> >

> > We finally found out how to stop the intense itching, at least

for

> > 10 hours at a stretch. That is to apply colloidal silver, and

then

> > rub sodium bicarbonate over the affected areas. It will

burn " like

> > the dickens " , but only lasts about 10 minutes. Then, cover the

> > sodium bicarbonate with living clay from www.livingclayco.com.

When

> > the pain became too intense, we applied fresh dill weed by

stuffing

> > it into our socks - long socks. It works like a dream. We hope

to be

> > completely fungus-free within a few weeks. When the itching

returns,

> > we simply spray the colloidal silver on, and rub in some more

sodium

> > bicarbonate.

> >

> > Before taking MMS, my wife and I took sodium bicarbonate

internally.

> > My wife had taken enough to cause some fungus to appear on the

> > surface of her foot, but not much else. The MMS is very

effective at

> > pushing out the fungus. Now I know why old people hobble around;

it

> > is fungus in their legs and especially their feet!

> >

> > In the final analysis, it seems logical that it is fungus that

> > ultimately terminates us all; it is just a matter of time. I

agree

> > with Jim Humble's " guess " that MMS can stretch out your lifespan

by

> > about 25 years because of its ability to handle fungus.

> >

> > As a side note, my wife and I have also switched from taking

> > potassium iodide to taking Lugol's 5% solution (yes, I purchased

it

> > from the U.S. - you can still get the more concentrated

solution).

> > The Lugol's is much stronger in terms of attacking fungus. It

might

> > also be playing a role in routing the fungus, due to the

presence of

> > elemental iodine in the solution. It is rough on the stomach,

> > however, so take it during a meal. We are presently taking about

2-3

> > drops per day, which translates to 15-22 mg/day.

> >

> > Since both MMS and Lugol's are oxidizers, we take them both in

the

> > morning, and obstain from taking reducers (antioxidants) such as

> > vitamin C or E for at least 4 hours or more.

> >

> > &

> >

>

December 10, 2008

Esther, It seems that the problem we have is related to internal

problems as you suggest. We have recently tried raising our pH by

eating alkaline foods such as cucumbers and raisins in view of this

possibility. is diabetic, and I am prone to stomach ulcers

(since solved by taking cod liver in its own oil). This means I am

acidic; knowing this, I have resorted to alkalizing our filtered tap

water (pH = 6.4) with sodium bicarbonate to get it up to pH = 7.5. I

realize that too much sodium may lead to a potassium deficiency, so

we started taking foods high in potassium, such as bananas and dates.

We'll try the milk thistle as you suggest.

&

>

> Hmm, can I suggest some elements of discussion on this? According

to my

> training, if the skin is detoxing so strongly, it is due to the

fact that

> your primary detox organs are plugged up/not functioning properly

in their

> detox pathways. Another thought expressed, is 'better to come out

the skin

> than stress already stressed organs' (liver/kidneys etc).

>

> Can some of you comment on how these 2 statements can be meshed in

a

> protocol a more supportive protocol? Shouldn't some herbal

supports for the

> kidney and liver also be involved? (dandelion/milk thistle &

> juniper/parsley). What are your collective thoughts on this?

>

> Another consideration is that the fungus is being dealt with 'out

of layer',

> or out of order in reference to " herings law of cure'-how does

this fit with

> this scenario? As a practitioner, this is where my thoughts would

go when

> their are such strong herx displays.

>

> Esther N. MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

>

> Holistic Allergist, Pain Specialist

>

> OPEN WINDOWS 2 WELLNESS

>

> www.openw2w.com

>

> 519.754.8759

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> yburkett

> Sent: December 10, 2008 7:59 AM

> iodine

> Subject: Iodine/Bicarb/ColloidalSilver/Clay/Dill/MMS

working

> together

>

> The good news is that my wife and I are ridding ourselves of

> fungus. The bad news is that we were scratching like hounds.

>

> The fungus is actually coming up through the pores of our skin

> wherever the fungus was lingering just below the surface. I made

the

> amazing discovery that brown spots (also called liver spots) are

> nothing but fungus! Only a few tiny brown spots appeared on the

back

> of my hands before taking the MMS (about 6 drops/day average for

> about 3 weeks). At present, my hands are covered " wall-to-wall "

with

> this brown fungus, and after applying some concentrated MMS

solution

> (24 drops) with 7.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution on them, they

are

> scabbing up and dropping off. My wife does not have this problem

> with her hands - just her feet and lower legs.

>

> We finally found out how to stop the intense itching, at least for

> 10 hours at a stretch. That is to apply colloidal silver, and then

> rub sodium bicarbonate over the affected areas. It will burn " like

> the dickens " , but only lasts about 10 minutes. Then, cover the

> sodium bicarbonate with living clay from www.livingclayco.com. When

> the pain became too intense, we applied fresh dill weed by stuffing

> it into our socks - long socks. It works like a dream. We hope to

be

> completely fungus-free within a few weeks. When the itching

returns,

> we simply spray the colloidal silver on, and rub in some more

sodium

> bicarbonate.

>

> Before taking MMS, my wife and I took sodium bicarbonate

internally.

> My wife had taken enough to cause some fungus to appear on the

> surface of her foot, but not much else. The MMS is very effective

at

> pushing out the fungus. Now I know why old people hobble around; it

> is fungus in their legs and especially their feet!

>

> In the final analysis, it seems logical that it is fungus that

> ultimately terminates us all; it is just a matter of time. I agree

> with Jim Humble's " guess " that MMS can stretch out your lifespan by

> about 25 years because of its ability to handle fungus.

>

> As a side note, my wife and I have also switched from taking

> potassium iodide to taking Lugol's 5% solution (yes, I purchased it

> from the U.S. - you can still get the more concentrated solution).

> The Lugol's is much stronger in terms of attacking fungus. It might

> also be playing a role in routing the fungus, due to the presence

of

> elemental iodine in the solution. It is rough on the stomach,

> however, so take it during a meal. We are presently taking about 2-

3

> drops per day, which translates to 15-22 mg/day.

>

> Since both MMS and Lugol's are oxidizers, we take them both in the

> morning, and obstain from taking reducers (antioxidants) such as

> vitamin C or E for at least 4 hours or more.

>

> &

>

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December 10, 2008

Esther, It just dawned on me why the fungus did not detox through

the bowels or by vomiting. It's because they are anchored in place

with tentacles! Unlike bacteria and viruses, fungi are not mobile,

it's that simple! Their appearance is a result of poor/inadequate

internal conditions in the past. Our present diet is vastly superior

than the one we followed for over 40 years. The itching went on for

at least ten years, and we always attributed this to either dry skin

or enzyme detergents, as nothing was visible at the surface of the

skin. I'll bet they didn't teach you anything about fungi in school,

only bacteria and viruses.

>

> Hmm, can I suggest some elements of discussion on this? According

to my

> training, if the skin is detoxing so strongly, it is due to the

fact that

> your primary detox organs are plugged up/not functioning properly

in their

> detox pathways. Another thought expressed, is 'better to come out

the skin

> than stress already stressed organs' (liver/kidneys etc).

>

> Can some of you comment on how these 2 statements can be meshed in

a

> protocol a more supportive protocol? Shouldn't some herbal

supports for the

> kidney and liver also be involved? (dandelion/milk thistle &

> juniper/parsley). What are your collective thoughts on this?

>

> Another consideration is that the fungus is being dealt with 'out

of layer',

> or out of order in reference to " herings law of cure'-how does

this fit with

> this scenario? As a practitioner, this is where my thoughts would

go when

> their are such strong herx displays.

>

> Esther N. MBE, RHA, CBS, CNHP

>

> Holistic Allergist, Pain Specialist

>

> OPEN WINDOWS 2 WELLNESS

>

> www.openw2w.com

>

> 519.754.8759

>

> From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On

Behalf Of

> yburkett

> Sent: December 10, 2008 7:59 AM

> iodine

> Subject: Iodine/Bicarb/ColloidalSilver/Clay/Dill/MMS

working

> together

>

> The good news is that my wife and I are ridding ourselves of

> fungus. The bad news is that we were scratching like hounds.

>

> The fungus is actually coming up through the pores of our skin

> wherever the fungus was lingering just below the surface. I made

the

> amazing discovery that brown spots (also called liver spots) are

> nothing but fungus! Only a few tiny brown spots appeared on the

back

> of my hands before taking the MMS (about 6 drops/day average for

> about 3 weeks). At present, my hands are covered " wall-to-wall "

with

> this brown fungus, and after applying some concentrated MMS

solution

> (24 drops) with 7.5 ml of 10% citric acid solution on them, they

are

> scabbing up and dropping off. My wife does not have this problem

> with her hands - just her feet and lower legs.

>

> We finally found out how to stop the intense itching, at least for

> 10 hours at a stretch. That is to apply colloidal silver, and then

> rub sodium bicarbonate over the affected areas. It will burn " like

> the dickens " , but only lasts about 10 minutes. Then, cover the

> sodium bicarbonate with living clay from www.livingclayco.com. When

> the pain became too intense, we applied fresh dill weed by stuffing

> it into our socks - long socks. It works like a dream. We hope to

be

> completely fungus-free within a few weeks. When the itching

returns,

> we simply spray the colloidal silver on, and rub in some more

sodium

> bicarbonate.

>

> Before taking MMS, my wife and I took sodium bicarbonate

internally.

> My wife had taken enough to cause some fungus to appear on the

> surface of her foot, but not much else. The MMS is very effective

at

> pushing out the fungus. Now I know why old people hobble around; it

> is fungus in their legs and especially their feet!

>

> In the final analysis, it seems logical that it is fungus that

> ultimately terminates us all; it is just a matter of time. I agree

> with Jim Humble's " guess " that MMS can stretch out your lifespan by

> about 25 years because of its ability to handle fungus.

>

> As a side note, my wife and I have also switched from taking

> potassium iodide to taking Lugol's 5% solution (yes, I purchased it

> from the U.S. - you can still get the more concentrated solution).

> The Lugol's is much stronger in terms of attacking fungus. It might

> also be playing a role in routing the fungus, due to the presence

of

> elemental iodine in the solution. It is rough on the stomach,

> however, so take it during a meal. We are presently taking about 2-

3

> drops per day, which translates to 15-22 mg/day.

>

> Since both MMS and Lugol's are oxidizers, we take them both in the

> morning, and obstain from taking reducers (antioxidants) such as

> vitamin C or E for at least 4 hours or more.

>

> &

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.15/1837 - Release Date:

10/12/2008

> 9:30 AM

>

December 10, 2008

(smiling) Actually, I did quite

a bit of training on fungi and parasites, just from a different angle than we

are discussing here. My specialty is bioenergetics—using electricity

and resonant frequency enhanced remedies rather than a predominance of herbs,

vitamins, minerals, etc. Bioenergetics also excels in finding out what

order the body wants to work in rather than just chasing symptoms, and which

exact products your body prefers to work with. There was no point in my

mentioning this in my earlier post as you (or this group) can’t easily do

this to yourselves...you need a relatively expensive computerized device, or a

practitioner--not applicable within the parameters of this list. I was

attempting to modify to group expectations.

Fungi are mobile at some point

in their life cycle or how would they be attempting to exit via your skin? How

did they get there? Seems to me we are missing an important component

here...if we can ‘kill’ them, then their tentacles just stay in

place? The tentacles would have to dry up (dehydrate) after death and be

pulled out by the movement of chyme/fecal movement through the bowel...you are

then left with ‘leaky gut’ until herbal supports assist in regeneration

and revitalization of the bowel wall—IF you’re taking some for that

purpose. UNTIL this healing/regeneration occurs, the yeast/fungi can exit

the bowel wall via these enlarged ‘pores’ into the lymph fluid and blood

vessels, move throughout the body and begin infestation in another vulnerable

weakened organ(s), which could be about where you are at with your variety of

symptom expression? If you have a weakened thyroid, fungal involvement

could find its way there, too. It is no respecter of organs!

Due to the TCM connections of

bowel and lungs, respiratory involvement is often a secondary expression site.

Also, the body considers the skin a 3rd kidney (which is why seniors

residences often smell of urine despite stringent health regulations—their

kidneys are beginning to shut down and their skin is throwing off the urine), hence

my previous post’s mention of kidney supports: juniper berry and

parsley. Kidneys are often also involved due the prevalence of yeast/bladder

infections, and yeast turns into fungi if there is a catalyst such as a stressful

event, illness, or long candida cleanse that forces the yeast to become a ‘shape

changer’ to protect itself. Now you have a possible scenario for

skin issues. The body is Amazing in its connections. Without knowledge of

these connections it is hard to find the true causative issue in any condition.

We are a flow system. Please note this is a hypothetical scenario, not

an attempt to be specific to your situation, .

In closure, let me say that I

appreciate the wisdom of your using a variety of approaches as per your subject

line. My original point was to show that CS kills, Bicarb deals with

terrain pH(—an alkaline pH forces the yeast/fungi to find a new acidic home),

MMS kills, clay pulls, iodine kills...the emphasis of your protocol is on

killing/moving, which leaves the tentacles dried up and being tugged out of

place (especially if you are eating hydrated clay which works wonderfully with

its pulling action)...therefore, some herbs with regenerative properties might

be helpful in getting ahead of the game. From the practitioner angle, I

don’t believe in detoxing without herbal supports. (Detox without

support is like telling a person with the flu to spring clean several houses.)

Now back to iodine! ;-)

Christmas blessings to you and

yours,

Esther N. MBE,

RHA, CBS, CNHP

Holistic Allergist, Pain Specialist

OPEN WINDOWS 2 WELLNESS

www.openw2w.com

519.754.8759

From:

iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of yburkett

Sent: December 10, 2008 1:54 PM

iodine

Subject: Re: Iodine/Bicarb/ColloidalSilver/Clay/Dill/MMS

working together

Esther, It just dawned on me why the fungus did not detox

through