Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi everybody, I am 35 years old and new to this forum. For seven years I have been suffering from fatigue and quick exhaustion when performing mental or physical work. 6 months ago, a benign adenoma was discovered in my pituitary and successfully removed. Right now, the lab values for adrenal, thyroid, growth and sex hormones show perfect values, but I am still not able to exercise without getting extremely mentally fatigued the following two days. Additionally my body temperature is usually very low. I read a lot about orthoiodosupplementation and want to try taking Iodoral. But as I am a careful person, I started by taking a small dose (800mcg) of conventional potassium iodide for five days. This small dose made my fatigue a lot worse. The last mornings I woke up totaly brain fogged and got completely tired after meals. Even the intensity of my tinnitus doubled. So now I am hesitant to try even more iodine. Does anybody have experience with this kind of reaction to iodide? After the surgery I was put on hydrocortisone which I slowly tapered off within 8 weeks. Might it be that the iodide is hurting my adrenals? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 most of us are in desperate need of iodine/iodide at a therapeutic dose (50--100mg. giving yourself a tiny dose could actually make you feel worse. I don't think you should be afraid of an adequate dose (iodine/iodide) but you might need adrenal support too. Gracia Hi everybody,I am 35 years old and new to this forum. For seven years I have been suffering from fatigue and quick exhaustion when performing mental or physical work. 6 months ago, a benign adenoma was discovered in my pituitary and successfully removed. Right now, the lab values for adrenal, thyroid, growth and sex hormones show perfect values, but I am still not able to exercise without getting extremely mentally fatigued the following two days. Additionally my body temperature is usually very low.I read a lot about orthoiodosupplementation and want to try taking Iodoral. But as I am a careful person, I started by taking a small dose (800mcg) of conventional potassium iodide for five days. This small dose made my fatigue a lot worse. The last mornings I woke up totaly brain fogged and got completely tired after meals. Even the intensity of my tinnitus doubled. So now I am hesitant to try even more iodine.Does anybody have experience with this kind of reaction to iodide?After the surgery I was put on hydrocortisone which I slowly tapered off within 8 weeks.Might it be that the iodide is hurting my adrenals?Cheers No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: 7/12/2008 4:31 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hi , Welcome. You have come to a great place. Maybe you could post your lab results so those here with experience in these things (not me, I am afraid) could give their opinion on whether or not your doctor knew how to interpret them properly. If you don't have them, you can ask for them. They belong to you, not the doctor. Just my idea. Since I have been taking 50 mg of iodine/iodide a day my tinnitus (basically from hypothyroidism, I think) has increased. I attribute it to detoxing bromine and hope that means it will get better. I am convinced iodine can only help. Dorothy .......... Right now, the > lab values for adrenal, thyroid, growth and sex hormones show perfect values, but I am > still not able to exercise without getting extremely mentally fatigued the following two > days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 with iodine, it needs to be supported with 3-5000mg of VitC. sandi From: nowski <sumar@...>Subject: Re: Iodoral and Adrenalsiodine Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:57 PM mentioned that his tinnitus was worse with iodine, and Dorothysaid:> Since I have been taking 50 mg of iodine/iodide a day my tinnitus> (basically from hypothyroidism, I think) has increased. I attribute it> to detoxing bromine and hope that means it will get better. I am> convinced iodine can only help.I also have tinnitus and have done a lot of research on the condition.It is not necessarily associated with low thyroid, but it IS a classicsign of adrenal depletion. The ears reflect the health of thekidney/adrenal complex. Likewise the eyes and skin reflect the health ofthe liver/detox mechanisms.Cheers, the Florida Herbalist--- nowskiHawthorne, Floridasumarfastmail (DOT) fm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 > Have you found a real solution for your adrenal problems? Hydrocortisone did not work for me. I think will give Iodoral a try together with vitamin C. Will it be wise to slowly ramp up to 50mg? > with iodine, it needs to be supported with 3-5000mg of VitC. > > > sandi > > > > mentioned that his tinnitus was worse with iodine, and Dorothy > > said: > > Since I have been taking 50 mg of iodine/iodide a day my tinnitus > > (basically from hypothyroidism, I think) has increased. I > attribute it > > to detoxing bromine and hope that means it will get better. I am > > convinced iodine can only help. > > I also have tinnitus and have done a lot of research on the condition. > It is not necessarily associated with low thyroid, but it IS a classic > sign of adrenal depletion. The ears reflect the health of the > kidney/adrenal complex. Likewise the eyes and skin reflect the > health of > the liver/detox mechanisms. > > Cheers, > the Florida Herbalist > --- > nowski > Hawthorne, Florida > sumarfastmail (DOT) fm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 The real amounts for Vit C are 2,000 - 5,000 mgs depending on how toxic you are. Steph > > From: nowski <sumar@...> > Subject: Re: Iodoral and Adrenals > iodine > Date: Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 12:57 PM > > > > > > > mentioned that his tinnitus was worse with iodine, and Dorothy > said: > > Since I have been taking 50 mg of iodine/iodide a day my tinnitus > > (basically from hypothyroidism, I think) has increased. I attribute it > > to detoxing bromine and hope that means it will get better. I am > > convinced iodine can only help. > > I also have tinnitus and have done a lot of research on the condition. > It is not necessarily associated with low thyroid, but it IS a classic > sign of adrenal depletion. The ears reflect the health of the > kidney/adrenal complex. Likewise the eyes and skin reflect the health of > the liver/detox mechanisms. > > Cheers, > the Florida Herbalist > --- > nowski > Hawthorne, Florida > sumarfastmail (DOT) fm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Darla, Don't take this wrong, but your post bespeaks overstressed adrenals and the highly propagandized mindset of "take a pill" as method for cure-all. In a culture of over-stimulation, especially of the adrenals, you'd be surprised what a slower pace, more sleep and less stress can do for you. Good luck, Vj From: Darla <discountinferno@...>Subject: Re: Iodoral and Adrenalsiodine Date: Saturday, July 19, 2008, 12:11 PM In the real world it is impossible to "reduce your stress levels, and get 9-10 hours of sleep". Even if you could I do not believe that alone would heal your adrenals. 2 YEARS??? Who here can wait 2 years???? How much more damage would be done in that 2 years? Test all hormones, replace the ones you are missing. It is as simple as that. Darla>> asked:> > Have you found a real solution for your adrenal problems? > > Hydrocortisone did not work for me.> > I think will give Iodoral a try together with vitamin C. Will it be > > wise to slowly ramp up to 50mg?> > There isn't any single "pill" or quick fix for adrenal exhaustion. You> might be able to prop yourself up with cortisone (or with> antidepressants. ..like many Americans do), but you will not find lasting> health that way, and the problem will just continue to plague you or> will show up as some more serious condition later. The only thing that> REALLY heals the adrenals is TIME, REST, NOURISHMENT. You've got to> adjust your expectations, reduce your stress levels, and get 9-10 hours> of sleep each night or else you will never be able to overcome the> depletion in the long run. Of course, our culture doesn't exactly> support adrenal health, does it? ;-)> > Iodine is somewhat supportive of the adrenals, but what it really> targets is the thyroid, which is almost always co-depleted with the> adrenals. But once you help your adrenals come back to health, the> thyroid will often follow. To rebuild the adrenals, you need to go on a> protocol for adrenal deficiency.. .usually an adrenal glandular along> with the supportive cofactors (vitamins and minerals, esp B vits, Vit C,> Mg, Zn, sea salt), along with a super nourishing diet (check out the> Weston Price Foundation diet -- lots of high-quality fats, cod liver> oil, bone broths...), and REST. Google "adrenal exhaustion" and you'll> get lots of information. I would suggest reading at least 3 or 4> protocols from different sources and then putting together a plan that> makes sense for yourself. Look for organic glandulars from New Zealand,> which are readily available on the market now. The supplements from> Standard Process are good, but many of them contain wheat and/or dairy,> so watch out if you are sensitive to either of those. SP's glandulars> unfortunately are not organic. > > Plan to stay on your program for at two years. After the first year, you> can consider adding herbal "adaptogens" to your protocol. Adaptogens> (like Siberian ginseng, for example) help your body (i.e., your> adrenals) adapt to and overcome the effects of stress. BUT you can't get> better adapted if your adrenal are totally deficient. So build them up> first (in year one), then become more adaptive (in year two). Resist the> urge to take some combination product that contains a whole bunch of> herbs that promise to help, because you really need to nourish the> physical structure of the adrenal glands first with the glandulars> before you do anything else. Does that make sense?> > And find out if you have a food sensitivity. Gluten sensitivity is a> common one for adrenal and thyroid depletion. If you can find a local> practitioner to support you, it will help immensely.> > Luck, > --- > nowski> Hawthorne, Florida> sumar@...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Sorry you see it that way. Darla > > > > asked: > > > Have you found a real solution for your adrenal problems? > > > Hydrocortisone did not work for me. > > > I think will give Iodoral a try together with vitamin C. Will it > be > > > wise to slowly ramp up to 50mg? > > > > There isn't any single " pill " or quick fix for adrenal exhaustion. > You > > might be able to prop yourself up with cortisone (or with > > antidepressants. ..like many Americans do), but you will not find > lasting > > health that way, and the problem will just continue to plague you or > > will show up as some more serious condition later. The only thing > that > > REALLY heals the adrenals is TIME, REST, NOURISHMENT. You've got to > > adjust your expectations, reduce your stress levels, and get 9-10 > hours > > of sleep each night or else you will never be able to overcome the > > depletion in the long run. Of course, our culture doesn't exactly > > support adrenal health, does it? ;-) > > > > Iodine is somewhat supportive of the adrenals, but what it really > > targets is the thyroid, which is almost always co-depleted with the > > adrenals. But once you help your adrenals come back to health, the > > thyroid will often follow. To rebuild the adrenals, you need to go > on a > > protocol for adrenal deficiency.. .usually an adrenal glandular along > > with the supportive cofactors (vitamins and minerals, esp B vits, > Vit C, > > Mg, Zn, sea salt), along with a super nourishing diet (check out the > > Weston Price Foundation diet -- lots of high-quality fats, cod liver > > oil, bone broths...), and REST. Google " adrenal exhaustion " and > you'll > > get lots of information. I would suggest reading at least 3 or 4 > > protocols from different sources and then putting together a plan > that > > makes sense for yourself. Look for organic glandulars from New > Zealand, > > which are readily available on the market now. The supplements from > > Standard Process are good, but many of them contain wheat and/or > dairy, > > so watch out if you are sensitive to either of those. SP's > glandulars > > unfortunately are not organic. > > > > Plan to stay on your program for at two years. After the first > year, you > > can consider adding herbal " adaptogens " to your protocol. Adaptogens > > (like Siberian ginseng, for example) help your body (i.e., your > > adrenals) adapt to and overcome the effects of stress. BUT you > can't get > > better adapted if your adrenal are totally deficient. So build them > up > > first (in year one), then become more adaptive (in year two). > Resist the > > urge to take some combination product that contains a whole bunch of > > herbs that promise to help, because you really need to nourish the > > physical structure of the adrenal glands first with the glandulars > > before you do anything else. Does that make sense? > > > > And find out if you have a food sensitivity. Gluten sensitivity is a > > common one for adrenal and thyroid depletion. If you can find a > local > > practitioner to support you, it will help immensely. > > > > Luck, > > --- > > nowski > > Hawthorne, Florida > > sumar@ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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