Re: Re: MTHFR/DMG Complete

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If anyone wants to buy the DMG complete you can callDr Brownstein's supplement line at1-866-877-6467 to order.It is not in stock now but you can be put on theircall list. it s/ be in w/in two weeks.AliOn Oct 13, 2008, at 9:20 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:It has the methyl B12, folinic acid and choline Steph Re: MTHFRTo: iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:41 AMA good percentage of people who carry mutations in MTHFR will also carry mutations in COMT.  COMT mutations are understood in the mainstream medical literature to be statistically associated with depression and even bipolar; and they have to do with dopamine regulation.  In practical terms, people with COMT mutations have trouble handling too many methyl donors (just as those with MTHFR mutations have trouble with synthetic folate/folic acid).  When supplementing, some people find that the methyl form of B12 (even if methylmalonic acid is high in urine and deficiency has been shown) is not well tolerated (can lead to a “bad” hyper among other things) but that MMA levels an be reduced by utilizing high doses of other forms of B12 including hydroxyl, adenosyl and cyano.  Adults and children following Dr Amy Yasko’s nutrigenomic protocol (where iodoral is also used but in much lower doses than are typically recommended here) often take many “routes and forms” of B12.  The hydroxyl B12 drops by scientific Botanicals are particularly strong and effective.  Folate status and B12 status are monitored by testing MMA and FIGLU in urine on a MAP test by Genova Diagnostics. All of this to say only that...you can indeed raise B12 levels with other routes and forms (people use nasal sprays, chewing gums, throat sprays, sublingual drops – in addition to hydroxy shots) and that the methyl form may not be the best form for all folks – even folks who carry MTHFR mutations (either C677T or A1298C)Josiewww.leadingorganics kincare.comCertified Organic Products for the Whole Family

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Are you a patient Ali? Because that supplement line is not for the general public I don't believe. I am confirming with Dr. Brownstein on the ability of people outside his practice purchasing from them. That is why I have not promoted it. When I purchase supplements I have to give my doctors name.

I will find out for sure but there may be some liability issues with supplying others. I don't know.

Re: MTHFRiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:41 AM

A good percentage of people who carry mutations in MTHFR will also carry mutations in COMT. COMT mutations are understood in the mainstream medical literature to be statistically associated with depression and even bipolar; and they have to do with dopamine regulation. In practical terms, people with COMT mutations have trouble handling too many methyl donors (just as those with MTHFR mutations have trouble with synthetic folate/folic acid). When supplementing, some people find that the methyl form of B12 (even if methylmalonic acid is high in urine and deficiency has been shown) is not well tolerated (can lead to a “bad” hyper among other things) but that MMA levels an be reduced by utilizing high doses of other forms of B12 including hydroxyl, adenosyl and cyano. Adults and children following Dr Amy Yasko’s nutrigenomic protocol (where iodoral is also used but in much lower doses than are typically recommended here) often take many “routes and forms” of B12. The hydroxyl B12 drops by scientific Botanicals are particularly strong and effective. Folate status and B12 status are monitored by testing MMA and FIGLU in urine on a MAP test by Genova Diagnostics.

All of this to say only that...you can indeed raise B12 levels with other routes and forms (people use nasal sprays, chewing gums, throat sprays, sublingual drops – in addition to hydroxy shots) and that the methyl form may not be the best form for all folks – even folks who carry MTHFR mutations (either C677T or A1298C)

Josie

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No, I am not a patient. So I asked the woman on the supplement lineif it can be purchased for non-patients. And she said yes.She would call me when it comes in.AliOn Oct 13, 2008, at 1:06 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:Are you a patient Ali?  Because that supplement line is not for the general public I don't believe.  I am confirming with Dr. Brownstein on the ability of people outside his practice purchasing from them.  That is why I have not promoted it.  When I purchase supplements I have to give my doctors name. I will find out for sure but there may be some liability issues with supplying others.  I don't know.  Re: MTHFRTo: iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:41 AMA good percentage of people who carry mutations in MTHFR will also carry mutations in COMT.  COMT mutations are understood in the mainstream medical literature to be statistically associated with depression and even bipolar; and they have to do with dopamine regulation.  In practical terms, people with COMT mutations have trouble handling too many methyl donors (just as those with MTHFR mutations have trouble with synthetic folate/folic acid).  When supplementing, some people find that the methyl form of B12 (even if methylmalonic acid is high in urine and deficiency has been shown) is not well tolerated (can lead to a “bad” hyper among other things) but that MMA levels an be reduced by utilizing high doses of other forms of B12 including hydroxyl, adenosyl and cyano.  Adults and children following Dr Amy Yasko’s nutrigenomic protocol (where iodoral is also used but in much lower doses than are typically recommended here) often take many “routes and forms” of B12.  The hydroxyl B12 drops by scientific Botanicals are particularly strong and effective.  Folate status and B12 status are monitored by testing MMA and FIGLU in urine on a MAP test by Genova Diagnostics. All of this to say only that...you can indeed raise B12 levels with other routes and forms (people use nasal sprays, chewing gums, throat sprays, sublingual drops – in addition to hydroxy shots) and that the methyl form may not be the best form for all folks – even folks who carry MTHFR mutations (either C677T or A1298C)Josiewww.leadingorganics kincare.comCertified Organic Products for the Whole Family

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I talked to Dr. B about it and he said that they will sell things to outsiders but there are some things that they will not. So I guess it depends on what you are ordering / buying from them.

Re: MTHFRiodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:41 AM

A good percentage of people who carry mutations in MTHFR will also carry mutations in COMT. COMT mutations are understood in the mainstream medical literature to be statistically associated with depression and even bipolar; and they have to do with dopamine regulation. In practical terms, people with COMT mutations have trouble handling too many methyl donors (just as those with MTHFR mutations have trouble with synthetic folate/folic acid). When supplementing, some people find that the methyl form of B12 (even if methylmalonic acid is high in urine and deficiency has been shown) is not well tolerated (can lead to a “bad” hyper among other things) but that MMA levels an be reduced by utilizing high doses of other forms of B12 including hydroxyl, adenosyl and cyano. Adults and children following Dr Amy Yasko’s nutrigenomic protocol (where iodoral is also used but in much lower doses than are typically recommended here) often take many “routes and forms” of B12. The hydroxyl B12 drops by scientific Botanicals are particularly strong and effective. Folate status and B12 status are monitored by testing MMA and FIGLU in urine on a MAP test by Genova Diagnostics.

All of this to say only that...you can indeed raise B12 levels with other routes and forms (people use nasal sprays, chewing gums, throat sprays, sublingual drops – in addition to hydroxy shots) and that the methyl form may not be the best form for all folks – even folks who carry MTHFR mutations (either C677T or A1298C)

Josie

www.leadingorganics kincare.com

Certified Organic Products for the Whole Family

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Great. Because it makes life so much simpler to buy several thingsthat I need at once, rather than having to shop around,or buy several supplements.AliOn Oct 13, 2008, at 6:32 PM, ladybugsandbees wrote:I talked to Dr. B about it and he said that they will sell things to outsiders but there are some things that they will not.  So I guess it depends on what you are ordering / buying from them.  Re: MTHFRTo: iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:41 AMA good percentage of people who carry mutations in MTHFR will also carry mutations in COMT.  COMT mutations are understood in the mainstream medical literature to be statistically associated with depression and even bipolar; and they have to do with dopamine regulation.  In practical terms, people with COMT mutations have trouble handling too many methyl donors (just as those with MTHFR mutations have trouble with synthetic folate/folic acid).  When supplementing, some people find that the methyl form of B12 (even if methylmalonic acid is high in urine and deficiency has been shown) is not well tolerated (can lead to a “bad” hyper among other things) but that MMA levels an be reduced by utilizing high doses of other forms of B12 including hydroxyl, adenosyl and cyano.  Adults and children following Dr Amy Yasko’s nutrigenomic protocol (where iodoral is also used but in much lower doses than are typically recommended here) often take many “routes and forms” of B12.  The hydroxyl B12 drops by scientific Botanicals are particularly strong and effective.  Folate status and B12 status are monitored by testing MMA and FIGLU in urine on a MAP test by Genova Diagnostics. All of this to say only that...you can indeed raise B12 levels with other routes and forms (people use nasal sprays, chewing gums, throat sprays, sublingual drops – in addition to hydroxy shots) and that the methyl form may not be the best form for all folks – even folks who carry MTHFR mutations (either C677T or A1298C)Josiewww.leadingorganics kincare.comCertified Organic Products for the Whole Family