Plastic

[Guest guest]

Foodgrade plastic should not cause kombucha any problems.

There are those that will tell you it will....they may also tell you about

" cosmic vibrations " and other hocus pokus mumbo jumbo.

Fact is, no kombucha researcher has ever shown food-grade plastic to " leach out "

or in any other way affect the kombucha culture.

I know of one commercial seller that claims kombucha has more minerals in it

than the tea and sugar that made it.

Oh really? Kombucha can fabricate elements?!? That IS quite the miracle brew!

-Trev

plastic

I hvae a friend that is going to get my cultures going for me. She is going

to start one for her and one for me. She has a glass bottle wiht a plastic

place on the inside for pouring the tea out. I said I dont think you can have

any plastic at all?

Thanks

Patty

[Guest guest]

Food grade... Is that plastics with the Recycle-2 rating on the bottom? That's

what my white vinegar is in and I doubt Kombucha will ever be as acidic as white

vinegar.

plastic

I hvae a friend that is going to get my cultures going for me. She is going

to start one for her and one for me. She has a glass bottle wiht a plastic

place on the inside for pouring the tea out. I said I dont think you can have

any plastic at all?

Thanks

Patty

[Guest guest]

This came up about 4 years ago, and somebody finally posted, " Prove it. If you

KNOW that plastic hurts the kombucha, show us the data. "

Instead of " put up " they " shut up " as of course there is not, and never has been

proof that food-grade plastic in any way alters a kombucha culture.

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4.2 Can I use a plastic container to ferment my Kombucha Tea?

Yes, But if you do use plastic, be very sure that it is a good quality food

grade plastic that is recommended for acidic wet foods.

4.3 What do the code numbers on the bottom of plastic containers indicate?

The Society of the Plastics Industry, Inc., has created a coding system for

plastic containers. They began phasing it in on July 1, 1988. The code numbers

(1-7) inside the three arrows on the bottom of plastic containers are used to

distinguish the different type of plastic resins for recycling purposes. Many

people use plastic containers to store and ferment their Kombucha Tea without

knowing the type of plastic used in their containers or even if they are safe to

use for foods. When using plastic containers to store food products, or for

fermenting your Kombucha, it is vital that you know about the safety of the

plastic container you are using. Not knowing this vital information can turn out

to be a dangerous practice. Any plastic containers having a number higher than

#2 are not safe to use for fermenting your Kombucha Tea or for storing it. In

fact any plastic which has a number higher than #2 should not be used for any

type of food storage. The following information will give you a better idea of

the types of plastic and their use.

a.. #1 PETE:Polyethylene Terephthalate represents about 30 percent of the

plastic bottle market. The EPA has authorized soft drink manufactures to use

recycled bottles in the production of new drink containers. The inside of the

recycled bottle is made of virgin resin (or new material) and the outside layer

is made from old drink bottles. PETE plastic containers include the following:

Water bottles, juice bottles, cooking oil bottles, soap /detergent bottles,

shampoo bottles clear plastic liquor bottles, food jars (peanut butter etc.,)

and 2 litre soda bottles. These bottles are recycled into many products such as

bottles for cleaning products and non-food items, egg cartons, and fibers

(carpet, T-shirts, fleece, etc.)

b.. #2 HDPE: High Density Polyethylene is the most widely used consumer

plastic. It is used to make bottles and jugs etc., used for food and cleaning

products, including the following: milk bottles, water bottles, juice bottles,

cooking oil containers, windshield washer fluid bottles, shampoo bottles, butter

& margarine tubs, cottage cheese containers, ice-cream containers (without metal

handles) and baby-wipe containers etc., to name just a few items.

c.. #3 PVC: Polyvinyl Chloride in another popular resin that is used for

product bottles, although its primary use is for plastic pipe, sheet goods,

flooring, shower curtains, house siding, garden hoses, and many other building

products and applications. It is very difficult to recycle, especially the

material manufactured more than 5 years ago because of the chlorine used. PVC

products should not be burned! The fumes are very toxic and can severely damage

the airways and lungs.

d.. #4 LDPE: Low Density Polyethylene is used to make bottles, plastic film,

cellophane wrap, disposable diaper liners, squeeze bottles, trays and toys. A

lot of the wine-in-a-box type products will use LDPE for the inner plastic

container. It too is very difficult to recycle.

e.. #5 PP: Polypropylene has been used to make bottles, toys, packaging pipes,

tubes, long underwear and other assorted products. Many manufactures of food

products have heard the demands from consumers and have switched their packaging

to PETE.

f.. #6 PS: Polystyrene is one of the most useful plastic resins ever created.

You may know this as " Styrofoam. " It is used to make coffee cups, takeout food

packaging, egg cartons and packaging " peanuts " . As much as environmentalist and

recyclers hate it because of the difficulty in recycling it, it is ideally

suited for the applications it was designed for. However it is recycled in some

areas and made into the same type of products, insulation, plastic " wood " , and

hard plastic pens. Manufacturing processes have improved significantly and the

material can now be produced without damaging the Ozone layer.

g.. #7 Other: Includes all other plastic resins (containing two or more

resins, or a mixture of resins). Usually one resin will form an inner layer, and

the other layer will be a second layer. Several kinds of bottles are made in

this manner. Because the resins are different, it is next to impossible to

recycle this material alone.

plastic

I hvae a friend that is going to get my cultures going for me. She is

going to start one for her and one for me. She has a glass bottle wiht a

plastic place on the inside for pouring the tea out. I said I dont think you

can have any plastic at all?

Thanks

Patty

[Guest guest]

*Jokingly referencing many things I've read before*

Next thing you're gonna be telling us is that scoby's are fine with metal, that

decaf tea is just as healthy for the culture as regular and that socbys don't

need the minerals from spring water so we can use distilled or sink water. Then

you'll tell us that a Kombucha culture can live in Moutain Dew, but honey will

kill it.

I just had to regurgitate some of the things I've read surfing the net for

Kombucha. Some things are learning from other's mistakes, some are common sense

and some are Kombucha wives tales.

I guess you gotta try for yourself and see if it breaks. At least it's a cheap

thing to experiment with.

steve

plastic

I hvae a friend that is going to get my cultures going for me. She is

going to start one for her and one for me. She has a glass bottle wiht a

plastic place on the inside for pouring the tea out. I said I dont think you

can have any plastic at all?

Thanks

Patty

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info on plastic and kombucha.....Gloria

[Guest guest]

I can't find that remark anywhere on the web, attributed to Mike Roussin, and I

even searched archived versions of his webpage all the way back to December ot

1997. (From http://www.archive.org )

Is it in the PDF he sells? I can't find it there either.

It would make sense that disposable bags (as opposed to the plastic containers

vinegar would come in) would start to break down, but I can't find a validated

claim to that effect.

I would be very interested to see the research.

I do remember Mike Roussin saying that he did find plastic in the Kombucha

he tested after it was stored in plastic food grade bags for several weeks.

I used to ship Kombucha in food grade plastic bags but recommend pouring

them into glass bowls as soon as they arrive. Of course one should never use

any kind of metal for fermenting Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

Here's a link to a page that explains the properties of various plastics and

what the symbols on your plastic containers indicate.

Unfortunately it is rather vague as to any tests or specifics regarding

reactivity or leeching of chems/plasticides.

http://americanplasticscouncil.org/s_apc/sec.asp?TRACKID= & CID=313 & DID=931

I'll keep lookng.

Beau

Re: Plastic

I can't find that remark anywhere on the web, attributed to Mike Roussin, and

I even searched archived versions of his webpage all the way back to December ot

1997. (From http://www.archive.org )

Is it in the PDF he sells? I can't find it there either.

It would make sense that disposable bags (as opposed to the plastic containers

vinegar would come in) would start to break down, but I can't find a validated

claim to that effect.

I would be very interested to see the research.

I do remember Mike Roussin saying that he did find plastic in the Kombucha

he tested after it was stored in plastic food grade bags for several weeks.

I used to ship Kombucha in food grade plastic bags but recommend pouring

them into glass bowls as soon as they arrive. Of course one should never use

any kind of metal for fermenting Kombucha.

[Guest guest]

How do I get messages onto the message board?

I just joined and learning the ins and outs of this. And I just brewed my

first batch of tea but I am worried about the second

Thank you

Evie

Re: Plastic

>

> I can't find that remark anywhere on the web, attributed to Mike Roussin,

and I even searched archived versions of his webpage all the way back to

December ot 1997. (From http://www.archive.org )

>

> Is it in the PDF he sells? I can't find it there either.

>

> It would make sense that disposable bags (as opposed to the plastic

containers vinegar would come in) would start to break down, but I can't

find a validated claim to that effect.

>

> I would be very interested to see the research.

>

>

>

>

> I do remember Mike Roussin saying that he did find plastic in the

Kombucha

> he tested after it was stored in plastic food grade bags for several

weeks.

> I used to ship Kombucha in food grade plastic bags but recommend pouring

> them into glass bowls as soon as they arrive. Of course one should never

use

> any kind of metal for fermenting Kombucha.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Evie,

Just by replying to a message, your post automatically comes up on the

message board and gets sent out to those on the list who get individual

e-mails or daily digests.

Luv, Sprite

" When you drink the water, remember the spring. "

 Chinese proverb

Check out my Kombucha Information page, it has links to all kinds of KT

info and more:

<A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/ladyfangs.geo/Page5.html " >Sprite's

Kombucha Page</A>

[Guest guest]

,

There is no problem with using the suntea jars, many use and have used

them without a problem. Former list owner, the late Bob used

them. I have used them for five years. Bob did mention an eventual

problem over a period of time with the inner piece and leakage, but I

never had that problem. I did ruin two spigots once, I thought it would

be great to boil them and ended up melting that inner piece. So it

wasn't a problem with the spigot just a problem with Spritely

Stupidity:)

Luv, Sprite

" When you drink the water, remember the spring. "

 Chinese proverb

Check out my Kombucha Information page, it has links to all kinds of KT

info and more:

<A HREF= " http://www.geocities.com/ladyfangs.geo/Page5.html " >Sprite's

Kombucha Page</A>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/6/04 4:01:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

rustym@... writes:

> Unfortunately it is rather vague as to any tests or specifics regarding

reactivity or leeching of chems/plasticides.

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Thanks.

[Guest guest]

> Unfortunately it is rather vague as to any tests or specifics regarding

reactivity or leeching of chems/plasticides.

-

The codes in that little recycling triangle on the plactic bottles are

recyling codes and don't really refer to anything else but it has been

commonly accepted that codes 1 and 2 are the least likely to leach nasty

stuff into the KT. I still prefer glass.

rusty

Re: Plastic

>

> Hi All,

> Here's a link to a page that explains the properties of various plastics

and what the symbols on your plastic containers indicate.

> Unfortunately it is rather vague as to any tests or specifics regarding

reactivity or leeching of chems/plasticides.

> http://americanplasticscouncil.org/s_apc/sec.asp?TRACKID= & CID=313 & DID=931

> I'll keep lookng.

> Beau

[Guest guest]

Obviously it is better if you don't buy any plastic but here is a guide to what that is all about. Puss the people that you buy from to use glass. I know it is a pain to look up their web site and send a message but change only comes when the wheel squeaks.

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I just posted a reply... Unsure if it went to group or you!!! Sorry.

~~~janine~~~

On Apr 18, 2010, at 5:44 AM, " mum_says_8_is_enough " <mandyhambidge@...>

wrote:

hi all

me again lol

i been looking into larger brewing glass jars but unable to find anything at a

reasonable price (tight budget) ive looked into plastic but some sites say yes

to HDPE 1 or 2 and other sites say no

i can get 2x1 gallon brew buckets (without taps but can get a syphone) for a

good price but dont want to take a chance unless others have had good success

with it (i can house the gallon size ones but anything bigger i cant)

mandy