RE: Re: Magnesium Aspartate/other forms noted by Eby

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the post, I think this may be what “”

had reference to as an e-book. I decided to peruse the book to see what it

actually had to say about aspartate, and when I finally found it, and clicked

on the link, it would not display the webpage.

Just so you don’t lose sight of that which I posted, I

disagree with the analysis of aspartate being an excitotoxin, as it is amino

acid normally found in the body. It might be prudent for you to do exactly what

I did, to be sure of my information before I posted, to do a word search on

aspartate and aspartame. They are not the same thing. Even though aspartate is

apparently one of the constituents used to make aspartame, the resulting

compound is not a substance found in nature. Looking again at the “e-book”

and the context of that which is written regarding aspartate, with subsequent

references to “super sweetener” and Stevia, there is question in my

mind that the author may be confusing aspartate and aspartame. Also, some

interesting reading as I previously alluded to may be the research of Han’s

Neiper regarding mineral transporters, which is more a lot of my information and

knowledge comes from regarding the aforementioned.

Any thoughts?

Dennis Dvorak

From: iodine

[mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of e. morrison

Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:21 AM

iodine

Subject: Re: Magnesium Aspartate/other forms noted by

Eby

Also from the same article-

http://george-eby-research.com/html/depression-anxiety.html#iodine

Magnesium Compounds That Work, That Are Ineffective, or That Injure

*ON A PRECAUTIONARY NOTE*, two amino acid chelates of magnesium

(magnesium aspartate, magnesium glutamate) *MUST* be avoided in treating

depression. Each of these amino acid complexes of magnesium has been

reported to worsen depression. Aspartate and glutamate

<http://www.nexusmagazine.com//Aspartame.html>

act as neurotransmitters

in the brain and retina <http://www.aoanet.org/ia-excito.html>

by

facilitating the transmission of from neuron to neuron. Too much

aspartate or glutamate in the brain kills certain neurons by allowing

the influx of too much calcium into the cells. This influx triggers

excessive amounts of free radicals, which kill the cells. The neural

cell damage that can be caused by excessive aspartate and glutamate is

why they are referred to as " excitotoxins. " They " excite "

or stimulate

the neural cells to death. Aspartate is a principal ingredient in the

highly maligned Aspartame sweetener. To avoid aggravating depression

with super-sweeteners, instead use /Stevia/ <http://www.steviaplant.com//>.

From early 2000 to summer of 2003, this essay focused upon

magnesium glycinate as the preferred source of magnesium. In late summer

of 2003, I shifted emphasis from magnesium glycinate to magnesium

taurate (same as magnesium taurinate), which appears superior to all

other forms of magnesium in treating treatment resistant depression due

to its content of taurine (more on taurine here)

<http://george-eby-research.com/html/depression-anxiety.html#taurine>.

Other effective magnesium compounds mentioned throughout this essay are

ranked well behind magnesium taurate and are not recommended unless

magnesium taurate can not be obtained. If you can not fine it, let me

know and maybe I can help. After years of study, I remain truly amazed

at the tremendous benefits of magnesium and other nutrients in treating

and preventing depression. In particular, I see magnesium as an

important research topic for survival considering its limited

availability from our Western diets and due to its ability to

inexpensively cure and prevent many expensive diseases, life threatening

or not. As you will see from this essay, our dietary choices and our

over consumption of certain foods are contributing to much illness,

including depression.

Carleson's magnesium glycinate*Today, in early 2008, I am

reconsidering magnesium glycinate. Each of magnesium, taurine and

glycine are inhibitory neurotransmitters in the brain and all are often

low in depression. Second, magnesium taurate is often difficult to find,

while magnesium glycinate and taurine are usually easy to find. Why not

take magnesium glycinate and taurine? It greatly simplifies treatment

and appears to be the best way of treating depression using readily

available nutrients. Another reason is that in my study of insomnia as a

symptom of minor magnesium deficiency, I ran into a problem, that being

magnesium taurate did not prevent insomnia, while magnesium glycinate

worked well. Why? There are great individual differences between people

in their ability to absorb nutrients, and much of that difference

results from the individual's ability to make stomach acid. If the

stomach acid pH is too high, some metallic compounds will be too

difficult to break down. *_I think this is the case for magnesium

taurate in some people. Clearly it produces less diarrhea in most

people, but dose-for-dose magnesium glycinate appears easier to

breakdown, absorb and utilize than magnesium taurate. The most readily

absorbed magnesium compound is always magnesium chloride; add some

taurine and some glycine and you have the best of all worlds_*. The

problem with magnesium chloride is that it is nearly always sold as a

liquid since it is too hygroscopic for use in tablets or capsules,

unless it is plated onto a silica gel drying agent. The only example of

magnesium chloride tablets are these 62 mg elemental magnesium (518 mg

magnesium chloride) tablets by Alta

<http://www.vitacost.com/Alta-Health-Products-Magnesium-Chloride>.

One

would need 10 of these tablets per day to get 620 mg magnesium. I use

large amounts of magnesium chloride (25 to 35% solutions) topically, but

have never used magnesium chloride orally*