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Hello.

I'm new to the group. I don't have any children who've been diagnosed

on the spectrum. However, you could say that I've had an interest in

autism since I was eight years old, and knew that there was something

different about me. While other children would have to be told not to

talk to their classmates, in school, I never had to be told. When I

was eleven or so, I first learned of autism, and suspected that I had

something related. I believe I have Aspergers, although I've not been

diagnosed.

I did a bit of research when I was in college at Cleveland State

University, and it was there that I first became aware of the research

that Dr. Rimland did at ARI. But I never really got that involved

with the issue until my oldest daughter was three, and there were

concerns about her development. It was her GI specialist (she would go

a week to ten days without having a bowel movement) who first

suggested to us that she might be autistic. She was evaluated tho and

never diagnosed with autism or aspergers or pdd-nos or anything. One

psychologist called her `just kind of odd', so I guess that's her

diagnoses. I told the psychologist that I could live with that.

is doing well enough. She was mainstreamed in school and just

graduated from highschool and will attend CSU this fall. She does

struggle terribly though, socially. She is terrified she will get

fired from her fast food job. She quit her last one rather than stay

on because she felt sure that if she didn't quit she would eventually

be fired. The few friends she has have the persistence of stalkers

practically. She will never initiate a phone call or a get together.

But all in all she's doing alright.

About four years ago I became aware of the book Evidence of Harm, and

I read it, and I am one of those crazy women who is quite certain that

the government not only poisoned a generation of children, but that

there were people who knew exactly what happened and choose to deal

with it by desperately trying to cover up the fact, even if that meant

that the damage would continue to be done to more and more children.

It isn't just what I read, though, that has me convinced, it is things

that have happened to me.

When was three, one of the first things I did when it was

suggested that she might be autistic was to contact ARI. I wanted to

know about vitamin B6, as I'd heard it was helpful but had also heard

that it could cause problems. When the receptionist there asked me if

I would like to speak with Dr. Rimland about it, I said yes, sure I

would. We had a brief conversation that I will never forget. I asked

him why, if B6 was so promising, it wasn't being advocated by the

mainstream doctors, and he told me that he didn't know, but that it

almost seemed to him that they didn't want the cause to be found. When

I asked him who `they' were, he said that there were a lot of

researchers getting government funds, and it was these people he was

referring to. He never said anything about vaccines, but it is clear

to me now that he must have been aware, or at least very suspicious of

the connection, at that time.

I never really gave much thought to autism in the years between that

conversation, and when I read Evidence of Harm. When my daughter

was about fourteen or fifteen, another incident, however, occurred

which leads me to believe that there is something to the claims of

vaccine damage.

She was assigned a science report on the disease Porphyria. While she

was researching it, she came to me and she said " mom, I think I have

lead poisoning " and when I told her I didn't think she did, she paused

for a moment and then she said to me " well then, I think I have

mercury poisoning. I have a lot of the symptoms. " This was before

either she or I had heard about mercury in vaccines. I brushed

off the comment at the time. But after I read Evidence of Harm, a year

or so later, I could see that she was exactly right. All of the

complaints that I ever took her to the doctor for over the years were

right there in the list of symptoms of mercury poisoning. I took her

to the pediatrician with this information, but he would not have her

tested for mercury poisoning. He said that the American Academy of

Pediatrics put to rest any concerns regarding this. I, however, remain

unconvinced.

I must say that so far I've met with some very unfriendly behavior

when I speak about my beliefs on this issue. On the internet, I've

been banned from political chatrooms whether they lean to the left or

the right. I was not rude, I was not hysterical, I only presented

information about Thimerosal, the vaccine preservative that is half

mercury. When I showed up at a recent Autism Speaks benefit concert at

the House of Blues downtown to hand out flyers about Thimerosal, I was

told that I had to leave or I would be arrested. I told them that as

far as I was aware, I was within my rights to be on the sidewalk,

which is public property, distributing information, so long as I

wasn't accosting or harassing anyone. The chief of police was summoned

and he told me that I could stay. But it seems to me and to many

others that the organization Autism Speaks is actively working against

the scientists and doctors and parents who believe that vaccines have

harmed their children and only want the truth to be told, and want

this looked into.

I recently contacted the NAA because I knew that was

putting her support behind them, and that she has been the only person

to publicly state her belief that vaccines damaged her child. I met

n at a recent biomedical support group with Dr. Demio, a DAN

doctor who practices biomedical and chelation treatment. I am curious

to meet other parents in the area here. I feel it is very important to

get the word out in any way possible, as we can't rely on the media. I

myself am taking supplements (B6, DMSA, NAC, caprylic acid for yeast)

and I am curious to find out the experiences of others with

supplements and diets.

I put together this flyer some years ago and I've been distributing it

whenever and wherever I can where I think parents of young children

might be.

http://www.wideopenwest.com/~r_nemeth/vaccine_flyer.htm

I am hoping to be at one of the meetings that take place the

first Tuesday of each month, soon, so that I can meet people, although

I won't be able to make the July meeting. Perhaps I will be at the zoo

on Monday. Wearing my `autism—it's no mystery, it's mercury' tee, and

handing out my flyers.

Robin Nemeth

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Hi Robin,

Were you at the meeting at Barrie Galvin's? I was

there, so if I am able to make it to the zoo,

tomorrow, I'm sure I will recognize you. I remember

reading about your experience at the AS benefit on

another group (don't remember which), as I am on

several.

It is so good to talk to people who know what it is

like to experience autism in whatever form. I hope to

God that every one of our children will one day be

able to explain " their world " to us. In so many ways,

I see tremendous growth, knowledge and emotion in

individuals who live their lives on the spectrum. But

because of the differences in levels of communication,

we are not always privey to how our children perceive

us, their friends and the world in general. We know

that they are very much a part of our lives. But as

parents, grandparents, teachers, friends and

neighbors, we want...no, we NEED to know more.

You and can teach us so much. I realize that not

everybody believes in the vaccine/autism connection.

Obviously, I do. I also believe there are other

factors involved in our environment that are both

triggering and adding to the autism epidemic. I saw a

regression in my grandson following a flu shot. My dd

said that he had reacted to previous vaccines, but

that the reactions were both brushed off by her Ped,

and seemingly temporary. Looking back, I think because

he cannot excrete toxins naturally, that every shot he

received from day one, was setting him up... The flu

shot was his toxic tipping point.

Biomedical intervention has been a long, hard and

expensive road. Noah has gone through a slew of

changes with each and every supplement or intervention

we have introduced. But these changes have led us to

see remarkable progress in his physical healing as

well as his ability to learn and to recover. He is 6

years old and although he is not " there " yet, he

continues to move to the left of the spectrum. His

conversational skills are his biggest deficit, but as

long as we see progress, and as long as we see toxins

moving out of his body, we will continue on this path.

I want to hear him say to me one day... " I hated those

supplements...those creams...those pills...that

diet...those blood tests! " I also want to hear him

tell me in his own words, as you and have, what

it was like to be in his body when he was unable to

communicate his feelings, or how bad his tummy hurt,

or how loud noises affected him, etc. I want to know

how it felt to be different...if he was happy or not.

There are so many beautiful things that our children

see and feel too, that we are unable to relate to. I

want to know about those things.

If I am unable to make it tomorrow, I would still like

to talk to you...both on this list, so that we can

share...we are all interested, otherwise we wouldn't

be here, or you can a-mail me offlist. Either way,

welcome to the group.

I hope to see you and everybody else who will be at

the zoo, tomorrow. I mentioned in a post last night,

that I have to talk to my dd. I know that the kids

start swimming lessons tomorrow, which might

interfere. I'll post later.

Take Care,

-Trish

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It makes my day to see someone take charge of their health. You might make

sure that you are getting enough iodine.

The quality of cancer prevention information on this list is quite high. As

to cancer treatment I think it is a bit opinionated. So I guess I am

opinionated against the opinionated, but then exposure to contrary opinions

can't be a bad thing.

Welcome to the list.

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Behalf Of alternative157

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 7:30 AM

Subject: [ ] Hello from a new member.

Hello everybody,

Three months ago my sonogram showed four tumors in my left breast which the

radiologist called " probably benign " in his report. Two of my doctors

(husband and wife) who sent me to this test think differently about it: one

says it is to early to be worried and the other says to look for a surgeon.

Two years ago my mother died of brain tumor. I still did not recover from

the horror of 6 weeks in hospital with her dying and a couple of awful

months of fights with doctors and the system. It was my most severe

depression during that time; I smoked a lot, drunk a glass or two of wine

every evening and did not watch my diet. Refused to take antidepressants,

but did take fioriset for headaches often.

When I buried her I immediately started on supplements (vitamins and herbs),

yoga and running. I traveled a lot to avoid anger and hopelessness. But I

still smoked about three cigarettes a day and drunk a glass of wine almost

every day.

The chest pain I have is not new. It did not appear recently. I had it for

about 4 or five years already. Went to see cardiologists two years in a row,

because I had symptoms of a heart attack. Those doctors just laughed at me.

Later I realized that the pain was probably neurological due to stress and

did not complain to doctors anymore.

Last summer during gyno check up my doctor found several lumps...

I stopped eating meat and fish almost two months ago. Stopped eating animal

products three weeks ago. I am on 's parasite cleaning program. Do not

use creams and lotions (make my own), packed my perfumes (which I loved);

wash my hair with soap I made.

I have no idea if I have cancer or not, if I am about to have it or I will

successfully survive...

My environment including people is not very supportive. I work in an office

without windows, I have a cat, there is not fresh air around where I work or

where I live (New York city) and the building I live in is very old

(everything is toxic in it).

I am interested in heavy metal cleansing. And also I want to find out why my

platelet count is high (420).

Happy to be a member of this group! Thank you for sharing!

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, how much is enough iodine?

Thanks.

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Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011

 

It makes my day to see someone take charge of their health. You might make sure

that you are getting enough iodine.

The quality of cancer prevention information on this list is quite high. As to

cancer treatment I think it is a bit opinionated. So I guess I am opinionated

against the opinionated, but then exposure to contrary opinions can't be a bad

thing.

Welcome to the list.

_____

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011

Hello everybody,

Three months ago my sonogram showed four tumors in my left breast which the

radiologist called " probably benign " in his report. Two of my doctors

(husband and wife) who sent me to this test think differently about it: one

says it is to early to be worried and the other says to look for a surgeon.

Two years ago my mother died of brain tumor. I still did not recover from

the horror of 6 weeks in hospital with her dying and a couple of awful

months of fights with doctors and the system. It was my most severe

depression during that time; I smoked a lot, drunk a glass or two of wine

every evening and did not watch my diet. Refused to take antidepressants,

but did take fioriset for headaches often.

When I buried her I immediately started on supplements (vitamins and herbs),

yoga and running. I traveled a lot to avoid anger and hopelessness. But I

still smoked about three cigarettes a day and drunk a glass of wine almost

every day.

The chest pain I have is not new. It did not appear recently. I had it for

about 4 or five years already. Went to see cardiologists two years in a row,

because I had symptoms of a heart attack. Those doctors just laughed at me.

Later I realized that the pain was probably neurological due to stress and

did not complain to doctors anymore.

Last summer during gyno check up my doctor found several lumps...

I stopped eating meat and fish almost two months ago. Stopped eating animal

products three weeks ago. I am on 's parasite cleaning program. Do not

use creams and lotions (make my own), packed my perfumes (which I loved);

wash my hair with soap I made.

I have no idea if I have cancer or not, if I am about to have it or I will

successfully survive...

My environment including people is not very supportive. I work in an office

without windows, I have a cat, there is not fresh air around where I work or

where I live (New York city) and the building I live in is very old

(everything is toxic in it).

I am interested in heavy metal cleansing. And also I want to find out why my

platelet count is high (420).

Happy to be a member of this group! Thank you for sharing!

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Hi alternative 157,

Welcome.

May I also suggest getting a thermogram? Don't believe the hype about them,

just use them as a tool.

As said, check into iodine. Go to http://www.breastcancerchoices.org

and read up on iodine. You can order an iodine loading test and see how you are

doing.

You can also have your estrogen levels checked to see if you are estrogen

dominant.

Also, get your vitamin D3 levels checked. Since you live up north, vitamin D3

could be a problem for you.

The radiologist who said the lumps were probably benign, did he offer any

suggestions as to what they are? Many doctors blow us off because we are " too

young for cancer. " However, depending on your age, if it is breast cancer, the

younger the person, the more aggressive the cancer can be.

Breast cancer is either something called triple negative - which means it isn't

hormone driven; or, it is hormone driven - estrogen or progesterone, or both.

By doing more digging into your current hormone situation, you can find out more

about what you can do to enhance breast health.

ar

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Hi Joy,

Welcome to the group.

I am interested in hearing 's response about the amount of iodine, too.

Please go to http://www.breastcancerchoice.org and read up on iodine. It's my

understanding that too much is not a good thing. It would be best to have your

levels checked first before supplementing.

ar

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> , how much is enough iodine?

>

> Thanks.

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Hard to say, but if a person is slow to sweat when it is hot and has a low

Basal Body Temperature, it is a good bet that the body is low on

iodine.

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Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:46 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Hello from a new member.

, how much is enough iodine?

Thanks.

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Hi AR,

I will look into iodine.  Am taking a Vit D3 supplement, B12 supplement as I

have been deficient in both. I had a biopsy and was estrogen negative.  Also

had some digestive issues and addressed those with aloe vera juice which was

extremely effective; because that worked so well will kick it up a notch

with Aloe Arborescens.  Have just done some very serious cleansing, getting

outside more (work in an office building), began an exercise routine that I

should have done long ago.  My husband and I had already made the switch to lots

of raw fruits and veggies after reading The China Study, and I don't eat any

animal protein presently, nor sugar of any kind, gluten, soy, dairy, processed

foods. I will confess that I am looking forward to the day when I will eat a

big, fat juicy hamburger, although that will only be occasionally! 

I established a baseline HCG number with the Navarro Clinic and will be sending

in a second tomorrow. I will ask my MD to prescribe a thermogram.  Thanks for

the suggestion. 

I'm not terrified anymore, which is a really good feeling.

Willing to hear suggestions to fill in the gaps.

Joy

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Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011

 

Hi alternative 157,

Welcome.

May I also suggest getting a thermogram? Don't believe the hype about them, just

use them as a tool.

As said, check into iodine. Go to http://www.breastcancerchoices.org and

read up on iodine. You can order an iodine loading test and see how you are

doing.

You can also have your estrogen levels checked to see if you are estrogen

dominant.

Also, get your vitamin D3 levels checked. Since you live up north, vitamin D3

could be a problem for you.

The radiologist who said the lumps were probably benign, did he offer any

suggestions as to what they are? Many doctors blow us off because we are " too

young for cancer. " However, depending on your age, if it is breast cancer, the

younger the person, the more aggressive the cancer can be.

Breast cancer is either something called triple negative - which means it isn't

hormone driven; or, it is hormone driven - estrogen or progesterone, or both. By

doing more digging into your current hormone situation, you can find out more

about what you can do to enhance breast health.

ar

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I live in south central Texas, and there are times during the year when all one

has to do to sweat is step outside the front door! That would be me.

I really like reading your posts. You are a bottomless pit of information and

wit. Got any good jokes?

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From: Gammill <vgammill@...>

Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011

 

Hard to say, but if a person is slow to sweat when it is hot and has a low

Basal Body Temperature, it is a good bet that the body is low on

iodine.

_____

From: Joy Wharton

Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011

, how much is enough iodine?

Thanks.

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Hi Joy,

You are doing tons of GREAT stuff. :)

Your doctor doesn't prescribe thermograms. You do it all on your own. :) Is a

great way to help feel a bit more in control. Just find a thermography center

near you. I would think there are tons where you live. They can be found in

chiropractor offices, health food stores, etc. Do some googling and check it

out.

So, if you had a biopsy, what were you diagnosed with?

ar

>

> Hi AR,

>

> I will look into iodine.  Am taking a Vit D3 supplement, B12 supplement as I

> have been deficient in both. I had a biopsy and was estrogen negative.  Also

> had some digestive issues and addressed those with aloe vera juice which was

> extremely effective; because that worked so well will kick it up a notch

> with Aloe Arborescens.  Have just done some very serious cleansing, getting

> outside more (work in an office building), began an exercise routine that I

> should have done long ago.  My husband and I had already made the switch to

lots

> of raw fruits and veggies after reading The China Study, and I don't eat any

> animal protein presently, nor sugar of any kind, gluten, soy, dairy, processed

> foods. I will confess that I am looking forward to the day when I will eat a

> big, fat juicy hamburger, although that will only be occasionally! 

>

> I established a baseline HCG number with the Navarro Clinic and will be

sending

> in a second tomorrow. I will ask my MD to prescribe a thermogram.  Thanks for

> the suggestion. 

>

> I'm not terrified anymore, which is a really good feeling.

>

> Willing to hear suggestions to fill in the gaps.

>

> Joy

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Hi AR,

Invasive ductal carcinoma.

Thanks for the thermography tip. So much to learn!

Joy

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[ ] Re: Hello from a new member.

Hi Joy,

You are doing tons of GREAT stuff. :)

Your doctor doesn't prescribe thermograms. You do it all on your own. :) Is a

great way to help feel a bit more in control. Just find a thermography center

near you. I would think there are tons where you live. They can be found in

chiropractor offices, health food stores, etc. Do some googling and check it

out.

So, if you had a biopsy, what were you diagnosed with?

ar

>

> Hi AR,

>

> I will look into iodine.  Am taking a Vit D3 supplement, B12 supplement as I

> have been deficient in both. I had a biopsy and was estrogen negative.  Also

> had some digestive issues and addressed those with aloe vera juice which was

> extremely effective; because that worked so well will kick it up a notch

> with Aloe Arborescens.  Have just done some very serious cleansing, getting

> outside more (work in an office building), began an exercise routine that I

> should have done long ago.  My husband and I had already made the switch to

lots

> of raw fruits and veggies after reading The China Study, and I don't eat any

> animal protein presently, nor sugar of any kind, gluten, soy, dairy, processed

> foods. I will confess that I am looking forward to the day when I will eat a

> big, fat juicy hamburger, although that will only be occasionally! 

>

> I established a baseline HCG number with the Navarro Clinic and will be

sending

> in a second tomorrow. I will ask my MD to prescribe a thermogram.  Thanks for

> the suggestion. 

>

> I'm not terrified anymore, which is a really good feeling.

>

> Willing to hear suggestions to fill in the gaps.

>

> Joy

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Thank you, arlynsg!

That is going to be the plan for Monday doctor's appointment. I am 39. For

several years of my problems ( and they may be related) nobody took me

seriously. I look too young. Or the doctor's are just lazy... After I dealt with

my mother cancer, I became very aggressive. And I just use them (doctors) as a

tool to obtain test results.

The rediologist suggested another sonogram in 6 months.

I already have a pile of book to study and will continue digging:)

Should I find an endocrinologist to look at my blood test? For some reason I

always thought that my hormones are not " in order " . My mother had a problem with

her thiroid. I have her medical record before she was admitted to the hospital

for the last time.

L

>

> Hi alternative 157,

>

> Welcome.

>

> May I also suggest getting a thermogram? Don't believe the hype about them,

just use them as a tool.

>

> As said, check into iodine. Go to http://www.breastcancerchoices.org

and read up on iodine. You can order an iodine loading test and see how you are

doing.

>

> You can also have your estrogen levels checked to see if you are estrogen

dominant.

>

> Also, get your vitamin D3 levels checked. Since you live up north, vitamin D3

could be a problem for you.

>

> The radiologist who said the lumps were probably benign, did he offer any

suggestions as to what they are? Many doctors blow us off because we are " too

young for cancer. " However, depending on your age, if it is breast cancer, the

younger the person, the more aggressive the cancer can be.

>

> Breast cancer is either something called triple negative - which means it

isn't hormone driven; or, it is hormone driven - estrogen or progesterone, or

both. By doing more digging into your current hormone situation, you can find

out more about what you can do to enhance breast health.

>

> ar

>

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Joy,

If you are hormone negative, then diet really is a wonderful tool. Keeping your

weight low and getting plenty of exercise is key for you. You may want to check

into seeing an immunologist to make sure your immune system is functioning well.

ar

>

> Hi AR,

>

> Invasive ductal carcinoma.

>

> Thanks for the thermography tip. So much to learn!

>

> Joy

> Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

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Alternative157,

A wait-and-see approach is a good one for someone our age, I think. Meanwhile,

keep looking at making those improvements.

An endocrinologist will look at your thyroid hormones. I suggest looking for an

osteopath instead, though. I have had a ton of trouble with endocrinologists.

I did finally find an MD who prescribed natural thyroid hormone - Armour, which

worked so much better than synthetics for me.

A gynocologist will look at your estrogen levels. Though, some MDs, and perhaps

an osteopath will too. I think you might be happier with an osteopath because

they tend to look at the whole body instead of parts.

ar

>

> Thank you, arlynsg!

> That is going to be the plan for Monday doctor's appointment. I am 39. For

several years of my problems ( and they may be related) nobody took me

seriously. I look too young. Or the doctor's are just lazy... After I dealt with

my mother cancer, I became very aggressive. And I just use them (doctors) as a

tool to obtain test results.

> The rediologist suggested another sonogram in 6 months.

> I already have a pile of book to study and will continue digging:)

> Should I find an endocrinologist to look at my blood test? For some reason I

always thought that my hormones are not " in order " . My mother had a problem with

her thiroid. I have her medical record before she was admitted to the hospital

for the last time.

>

> L

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Thank you, !

I will check my iodine, as you suggested. Actually, during one massage therapy

years ago it was suggested that I take iodine supplements one a year, but no

tests were done. I took it once, a year afterwards and stopped.

Thanks again for your advise.

I am openminded and willing to learn.

L

>

> It makes my day to see someone take charge of their health. You might make

> sure that you are getting enough iodine.

> The quality of cancer prevention information on this list is quite high. As

> to cancer treatment I think it is a bit opinionated. So I guess I am

> opinionated against the opinionated, but then exposure to contrary opinions

> can't be a bad thing.

>

> Welcome to the list.

>

>

>

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Hi ar,

Thanks so much for the encouragement.  My weight is great and in fact is lower

than it's been for 20 years.  I'm 57.  My husband is putting together an

elliptical machine as we speak to increase the sweat factor :-).    I'm

playing

my guitar more and learning to say NO...

Your advice is invaluable.  It's nice to know others share the journey,

Joy

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Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 2:47:35 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Hello from a new member.

 

Joy,

If you are hormone negative, then diet really is a wonderful tool. Keeping your

weight low and getting plenty of exercise is key for you. You may want to check

into seeing an immunologist to make sure your immune system is functioning well.

ar

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You're welcome, Joy.

Oh! Also, look into rebounding. It does a body good. :)

ar

>

> Hi ar,

>

> Thanks so much for the encouragement.  My weight is great and in fact is

lower

> than it's been for 20 years.  I'm 57.  My husband is putting together an

> elliptical machine as we speak to increase the sweat factor :-).    I'm

playing

> my guitar more and learning to say NO...

>

> Your advice is invaluable.  It's nice to know others share the journey,

>

> Joy

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