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Congrats on being pregnant!!! Your due date is Feb.10 2003.

You take the first day of your last " friend " and you add seven days,

then you count back 3 months. I forget how to figure out how far

along you are. I'm sure someone here knows how. Glad you had a great

vacation!

Congrats again,

> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was

pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the

wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park,

that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it

and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found

out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm

trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my

last " friend " was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG

AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't

official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on

my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at

and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my

good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard

from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to

wi...still would love to meet up with her..

> the rubedor family

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CONGRATS...you would be 8 wks preggers http://www.babycenter.com/calendar/index?_DARGS=%2Fcalendar%2Fgetinfo.jhtml.3

Glad you had a good Vacation also .... that is wonderful...

Trisha

> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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It must be the keyboards around here- congrats if its for sure your

preggers!! And way to go on landing the new job! Changes are taking shape

all around you ;)

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OMG! Congratulations! I'm very happy for you & your family!

Umm...if I remember right, to figure out your due date, you go back 3

mos from your last period, then add 7 days....so your due date would

be February 10?! I THINK! I'm trying to remember, becuz when

pregnant with Abby, my last period was May 30th or so, and my

original due date was March 6.

I'm glad you had such a great vacation!

Congratulations again! Keep us updated.

Debbie Abby's mom dOCGrad

MI

> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was

pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the

wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park,

that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it

and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found

out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm

trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my

last " friend " was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG

AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't

official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on

my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at

and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my

good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard

from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to

wi...still would love to meet up with her..

> the rubedor family

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a: Thanks for the info I also hope it settles...this is supposed

to get me to the December month which is when they say the Enbrel will

start up for those of us on the waiting list if that is true I will

have been on that list for 1 year....Thanks again

: It is the oral form 8...2.5 mg once a week...and it is the

bottom end that is having the trouble...my husband is finding it quite

humorous as he has always said I was full of sh**t...I keep telling

him I am a quart low as my eyes are blue...on the other hand he has

the brown eyes...I also wanted to say I have hardly ever heard you

complain ....or a much either....come on we want to hear you also

so when we all get to Debs we are all equal here..LOL...

Kathy in IL: Girl I think you need a vacation...you have had heck the

last couple of months...there is not alot in Oklahoma but dust heat

and dessert but come on...there is a big army base within spitting

distance maybe you could find

a significant other?

Tess: Is the throat any better?

Debs in Fl: sorry you are still having a bad time....at least with all

the rain maybe you guys wont have the fires this year..the last time I

was in Ocala to see my mom you guys were burning everywhere

Judy in AZ: How is the headaches?

To all hope you have a little less pain this weekend

hugs to all...Kathi in OK

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8 weeks!! omg..i can't believe that i'm that far!!i'm gonna have to check out this link..i searched last night on line and couldn't find anything..thanks for your help

brenda

mom of tucker

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CONGRATS...you would be 8 wks preggers http://www.babycenter.com/calendar/index?_DARGS=%2Fcalendar%2Fgetinfo.jhtml.3

Glad you had a good Vacation also .... that is wonderful...

Trisha

> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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wow..a valentines baby..sooo happy..now my mom wants me to hold it in till the 17..her bday~

brenda

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Congrats on being pregnant!!! Your due date is Feb.10 2003.You take the first day of your last "friend" and you add seven days,then you count back 3 months. I forget how to figure out how far along you are. I'm sure someone here knows how. Glad you had a great vacation!Congrats again,> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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since my cycle is 28 days..the calander says i'm due 3-7...!!

brenda

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:OMG! Congratulations! I'm very happy for you & your family! Umm...if I remember right, to figure out your due date, you go back 3 mos from your last period, then add 7 days....so your due date would be February 10?! I THINK! I'm trying to remember, becuz when pregnant with Abby, my last period was May 30th or so, and my original due date was March 6. I'm glad you had such a great vacation!Congratulations again! Keep us updated.Debbie Abby's mom dOCGradMI> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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must be...hehe..thanks a bundle..job wasn't to bad today..but it was all reading..next week the real work begins!!

brenda

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,It must be the keyboards around here- congrats if its for sure your preggers!! And way to go on landing the new job! Changes are taking shape all around you ;)For more plagio info

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so you want me to leave more often huh!! lol...i would love to do that!! hehe..well, if i go into labor on the 10th, you can bet i'll be saying "TY, DON'T EVER TOUCH ME AGAIN,...CONGRATS NIKI,,,TY DONT EVER TOUCH ME AGAIN."LOL...

brenda

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,You should go away more often, you come back with such awesome news!! Congrats on the new job! And congrats on the newest member of your family to be!!! I know you've been wanting this for awhile, I am just thrilled for you!! Looks like you are due Feb. 10th. Good things happen on that day, its mine and hubby's anniversary!! Good luck !NikiKaylie & Danny (STAR grads)Phila., PA> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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k, i'll just respond to my own post..i put my date of my last friend as 5-3-01..not 02...there went my brain already..

brenda

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:OMG! Congratulations! I'm very happy for you & your family! Umm...if I remember right, to figure out your due date, you go back 3 mos from your last period, then add 7 days....so your due date would be February 10?! I THINK! I'm trying to remember, becuz when pregnant with Abby, my last period was May 30th or so, and my original due date was March 6. I'm glad you had such a great vacation!Congratulations again! Keep us updated.Debbie Abby's mom dOCGradMI> hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to wi...still would love to meet up with her..> the rubedor familyFor more plagio info

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thanx very much..you know they say everything comes in 3's..i wonder whats next!!..maybe they will say..ITS A GIRL!!

brenda

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Wow so much change at one time. COngrats on the new job and the new baby!BeckFor more plagio info

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i don't think she does..its been 17 years!! lol..i want it out already..j/k....we haven't decided if we are gonna find out if its a boy/girl this time..last time we did cause we needed lotsa time to save up and get clothes..but this time we have a lot of stuff that would go either way..so i dunno..hubby says to find out..i don't think i wanna..i'd let him find out but he wouldn't keep his mouth shut and i'm sure i would find out!!

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Awww, I didn't even think about Valentines day!! That would be so cute! lol to your Mom....ask her if she remembers what it's like to be 9 months pregnant! We all want it OUT and OVER by that time! heheI'm so happy for you!> > hi all..i am back..i came back wed night..very late..my trip was > pretty good..seen alot of ty's family that i hadn't seen since the > wedding, went horseback riding..we also went to itaska state park, > that is where the headwaters of the mississippi are..tucker sat in it > and we all walked across the river..also, while i was there i found > out some great news..accordiing to the home e.p.t, i'm prego..now i'm > trying to figure out how far along i am.. the first day of my > last "friend" was may 3..so if anyone knows the trick..HOW FAR ALONG > AM I...i can't get into the dr till july 11 tho so it isn't > official..but let me tell you..those 2 lines were purple!! also, on > my way up to minn. i got a call from a place i had an interview at > and found out i start my new job this friday..so anyways..thats my > good news..hope to hear from you all soon..also..has anyone heard > from jill..and where is kristin..the mommy that comes up to > wi...still would love to meet up with her..> > the rubedor family> > > For more plagio info

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LOL...there are older ones too....I agree with you

though my daughter 23 is always teasing her boyfriend

at 33 he could date either of us and I shudder when

she says that...I tell her besides having a husband I

already raised a son.....hope you are doing a little

better...Kathi in OK

--- kringlemom@... wrote:

> hey kathi, thanks. but aren't they awful young on

> the army base?!?!?! i'm not

> far from the navy base. i see them and think of my

> son.kathy in il

>

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  • 3 years later...

a,

Thanks - I'm determined to beat this thing!

I'm thrilled that Dr. Kolb is taking care of you . . .

I can't imagine another plastic surgeon taking the

interest and care she does - of the whole person, not

just the breasts!

I know you're going to begin feeling much better when

your implants are out . . . Most women go through a

period of anxiety. Very normal . . . It would probably

be abnormal not to feel it to some degree!

I hope you can let all the doctors who treated you so

horribly know what Dr. Kolb found . . . and when you

are doing well, go by and show them how short sighted

(I want to say stupid, but I'll be nice!) they have

been! . . .

It won't be long now! . . . Be good to yourself . . .

You're in good hands!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

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Hi a,

I felt the same way as I was approaching explant, complete peace

with it.

I can't remember the name of the person who was having surgery with

Dr. Kolb last week - maybe someone else here remembers? I know

we've got a few upcoming surgeries with Dr. Feng, and I

believe Audrey? Cosima had surgery with Dr. Kolb about a month

ago.

Sis

>

> Rogene,

> It sounds like they may have caught it early. I still feel

positive

> about the outcome. I know the Lord will carry you and your family

> through this trial. I will continue to pray for your strength.

>

> Last Fri late Dr. Kolb called and asked if I ever feel extreme

> fatigue and weak for no reason. I said yes all the time. She

said

> my thyroid was off. (And a list of other blood work that ties in

> with my condition) Also she said my Leptin level was through the

> roof. I believe she said the normal range is 27. Mine is 296.

> Which I asked her what does this mean. She said weight-gain

without

> eating. I wanted to cry. She is the only Dr. that has not

blammed

> my condition on my weight. She said its common with her patients

as

> bad as me to drop 55 lbs. after explanting/detox/flushing and not

> dieting. Since last Fri I have been extreme. The past couple days

> have been better. I was able to clean a little. For weeks all I

was

> able to do is just stare at what needed to be done. I can

definately

> feel my body flushing the poison out.

> Yes, Tues is around the corner. I'm still scared. I know I'm in

> the Lord's hands for what ever His Will may be. I can't understand

> why I don't have complete peace over this surgery. Maybe its

cause

> I've been 'poisioned' for 19 yrs. And having life after Implants

> seems so unrealistic at this point. The foam covering has me

> terrified.

> One of our members had her explant from Dr. Kolb last thurs. when

I

> had to go for more blood work. Can anyone remember her name? I

> still can't find it viewing past post. I wonder how she is doing?

> Thank You all for your Prayers and concerns.

> a

>

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I am really glad that the tests that Dr. Kolb has run have

identified some problem areas for you. It is so much better to have

some idea of what is going on inside your body! Please have peace

about your upcoming surgery. It is really important to feel

positive about your outcome. I really do believe that our body's

health is deeply affected by our emotional state too. Trust that

God has led you to Dr. Kolb and that this will be the beginning of

your recovery from implant hell. I will be praying for you and

thinking of you on tuesday!

Hugs and blessings,

Kathy

>

> Rogene,

> It sounds like they may have caught it early. I still feel

positive

> about the outcome. I know the Lord will carry you and your family

> through this trial. I will continue to pray for your strength.

>

> Last Fri late Dr. Kolb called and asked if I ever feel extreme

> fatigue and weak for no reason. I said yes all the time. She

said

> my thyroid was off. (And a list of other blood work that ties in

> with my condition) Also she said my Leptin level was through the

> roof. I believe she said the normal range is 27. Mine is 296.

> Which I asked her what does this mean. She said weight-gain

without

> eating. I wanted to cry. She is the only Dr. that has not

blammed

> my condition on my weight. She said its common with her patients

as

> bad as me to drop 55 lbs. after explanting/detox/flushing and not

> dieting. Since last Fri I have been extreme. The past couple days

> have been better. I was able to clean a little. For weeks all I

was

> able to do is just stare at what needed to be done. I can

definately

> feel my body flushing the poison out.

> Yes, Tues is around the corner. I'm still scared. I know I'm in

> the Lord's hands for what ever His Will may be. I can't understand

> why I don't have complete peace over this surgery. Maybe its

cause

> I've been 'poisioned' for 19 yrs. And having life after Implants

> seems so unrealistic at this point. The foam covering has me

> terrified.

> One of our members had her explant from Dr. Kolb last thurs. when

I

> had to go for more blood work. Can anyone remember her name? I

> still can't find it viewing past post. I wonder how she is doing?

> Thank You all for your Prayers and concerns.

> a

>

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Hi a,

I'm glad you're back and the surgery is behind you. I know what you

mean about that feeling of relief to have them out. After reading

your message, I understand why many of the implanting doctors want

nothing to do with removing them after they've put them in!! They

leave the tough work to someone else, and this way they don't have

to face what they've done. I've been thinking about you and

patiently awaiting your next post. Dr. Kolb performs the En Bloc

procedure when she does the capsulectomy, I believe.

When you're up to it, I'm going to compile everyone's stories and

have them published into a book - designed to help others, not to

make a profit from. If you're interested in submitting your story,

let me know.

Sis

>

> Hoor-Ray! Thank God I'm explanted! I had no problems with surgery

> like I had expected.

>

> Dr. Kolb explanted me Jan 31.

> (If ya'll remember my PS from 1988 has given me the run around

since

> implanted, so I did not know make, etc of what implants I had

except

> him telling me in '88, they were foam covered- saline filled. In

> front of muscle. And to massage gently so they would not rupture.

> And of course they would last forever, HA! HA!) Now what really

> was...

>

> Dr. Kolb got in there and I had Surgitek-Poly foam (at one time

> that is)and Silicone gel filled. Can you believe that! She said

> outside of implants were black mold, fungus (implants had been

there

> for 19 yrs) The foam was long gone. She did a capsulectomy. Is

that

> the same as Enbloc? I'm still confused. No rupture.

> They slowly leaked to half the original size. The left implant

had

> embedded into muscle wall(that explains chest pain, smothering)

she

> had to remove some muscle on left breast and a piece of shell had

> broke off (not a rupture in shell yet) so she cut that out of the

> surrounding muscle area.

> She removed Lymph nodes from under both arms. I was too

> sick for a up lift right now. Which I don't look as abnormal as I

> expected so far. I do not have the heaviness and smothering now.

And

> needless to say I have now Peace of Mind. (Its amazing how

> explanting can do that).

>

> I do highly recommend the 3 day pain pump. I wished it was a 6

day

> pump. Because the 4th day pain really set in. (But with the

right

> kind of narcotic you can tolerate it). The drainage tubes weren't

as

> bad as I thought either. the tubes removed 6 days later. The only

> problem besides the expected pain from healing is where the lymph

> nodes were removed I developed fluid sacks the size of a large

lemon

> in each arm pit. I noticed a few days before tube removal it was

> developing. I have to go Mon and get these drained. Dr. Kolb said

> this sometimes happens with alot of silicone in the area and it

> clogs the lymph draining area, and builds up. She said when she

cut

> the lymph nodes out, they were stuck together with alot of

stretchy

> silicone. Isn't that wild? My husband said " so Dr. Kolb you got

all

> of it " ? she said " just what I cut out around the implants and

lymph

> nodes. That my whole body is full of this sticky silicone. And I

> had double whammy- Mold and Silicone- (Bio-Chemical Toxicity).

And

> it would take a while to detox/flush it out.

> Fri night she told me to push this fluid sack down into a drain

> pocket she made below that area for drainage. Then to hold it in

> that pocket and quickly secure a ace bandage around my arm pit.

> Well that didn't happen. It hurt so bad trying to push this I

cried.

> All night Fri and all day Sat. I stayed in bed. I had severe pain

> throbbing, all down my arms and radiating to my ring finger on

both

> hands. The pain med did not help. Finally Sunday it eased with

pain

> med. I dread her draining them. As far as chest/breast pain from

> surgery, I have the occasional sharp aches, but the burning and

> throbbing is gone. Tonight(late-late Sun) is the first time though

I

> have felt like getting on the computer. So it'll take me a few

days

> to read all the post I've missed since Jan 29.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long but I need to see if anyone is familiar

> with something.

> When Dr. Kolb done all her blood work, and one of the results were

> my MSH was low (30) and my Leptin level was 300 (normal is 1.1-

> 27.1). She gave me a rx of Actos to start when I start back to

> eating normal. I have felt to weak until now, today was my first

> dose and I did some research on it. Is anyone taking this? I have

a

> site I found on explaining how and why it works for the type of

> deficency' I have.

>

>

http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/id/4291/searchte

> xt/neurotoxins/

>

> If you can't get it let me know and I'll send a page email to

anyone

> that is interested. This is Part 2 on this particular topic.

> (Neurotoxins) Link available for Part 1 also in there. Let me

know

> what ya'll think. And if anyone has any other findings for

taking

> Actos (mine is for MSH-Leptin levels) let me know. Its given for

> Diabetes type 2 originally I believe. I'm not a diabetic. Though

it

> does run in my family. My 47 yr. old siter died in 2000 from

> complications of the disease.

> I need suggestions on what type of diet would be best with

Actos.

> Dr. Kolb said High Protien-low Carb. But I'm not too familiar

with

> many. I've heard Atkins, but I don't agree with that large amount

> protein and the suggested types. I guess I could alter it.

>

> Well I feel like I'm back into the land of the Living. Who knows,

> after 6-12 months of detox/flushes I might just see what normal is

> suppose to feel like.

>

> Thanks for all the Prayers ya'll have done for me. I know I felt

> the hand of God on me through it all.

>

> I appreciate and Love you all,

> Its so good to be back,

> a

>

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You are an amazing woman a, "Thank you, God." I am so glad you got those things out. I have been so worried about you. We had been explanted the same week and I thought about you often. I am so glad to hear you now have peace. I don't know how I would have dealt with all that. I had a hard time with my "en-bloc" procedure. I had tectured saline. My tubes were in for 5 full days and we still took them out at the borderline measurements. We had already stayed an extra day in Ohio and my hubby had to get back to work. Dr. Feng told me I wouldn't be back to normal for about a year. I plan on doing everything I can to shorten that. We can get through this recovery together a. Thank you for your update, you are in my prayers! bluejaybliss <bluejaybliss@...> wrote: Hoor-Ray! Thank God I'm explanted! I had no problems with surgery like I had expected. Dr. Kolb explanted me Jan 31. (If ya'll remember my PS from 1988 has given me the run around since implanted, so I did not know make, etc of what implants I had except him telling me in '88, they were foam covered- saline filled. In front of muscle. And to massage gently so they would not rupture. And of course they would last forever, HA! HA!) Now what really was...Dr. Kolb got in there and I had Surgitek-Poly foam (at one time that is)and Silicone gel filled. Can you believe that! She said outside of implants were black mold, fungus (implants had been there for 19 yrs) The foam was long gone. She did a capsulectomy. Is that the same as Enbloc? I'm still confused. No rupture. They slowly leaked to half the

original size. The left implant had embedded into muscle wall(that explains chest pain, smothering) she had to remove some muscle on left breast and a piece of shell had broke off (not a rupture in shell yet) so she cut that out of the surrounding muscle area. She removed Lymph nodes from under both arms. I was too sick for a up lift right now. Which I don't look as abnormal as I expected so far. I do not have the heaviness and smothering now. And needless to say I have now Peace of Mind. (Its amazing how explanting can do that).I do highly recommend the 3 day pain pump. I wished it was a 6 day pump. Because the 4th day pain really set in. (But with the right kind of narcotic you can tolerate it). The drainage tubes weren't as bad as I thought either. the tubes removed 6 days later. The only problem besides the expected pain from healing is where the lymph nodes were removed I

developed fluid sacks the size of a large lemon in each arm pit. I noticed a few days before tube removal it was developing. I have to go Mon and get these drained. Dr. Kolb said this sometimes happens with alot of silicone in the area and it clogs the lymph draining area, and builds up. She said when she cut the lymph nodes out, they were stuck together with alot of stretchy silicone. Isn't that wild? My husband said "so Dr. Kolb you got all of it"? she said "just what I cut out around the implants and lymph nodes. That my whole body is full of this sticky silicone. And I had double whammy- Mold and Silicone- (Bio-Chemical Toxicity). And it would take a while to detox/flush it out. Fri night she told me to push this fluid sack down into a drain pocket she made below that area for drainage. Then to hold it in that pocket and quickly secure a ace bandage around my arm pit. Well

that didn't happen. It hurt so bad trying to push this I cried. All night Fri and all day Sat. I stayed in bed. I had severe pain throbbing, all down my arms and radiating to my ring finger on both hands. The pain med did not help. Finally Sunday it eased with pain med. I dread her draining them. As far as chest/breast pain from surgery, I have the occasional sharp aches, but the burning and throbbing is gone. Tonight(late-late Sun) is the first time though I have felt like getting on the computer. So it'll take me a few days to read all the post I've missed since Jan 29. I'm sorry this is so long but I need to see if anyone is familiar with something.When Dr. Kolb done all her blood work, and one of the results were my MSH was low (30) and my Leptin level was 300 (normal is 1.1-27.1). She gave me a rx of Actos to start when I start back to eating normal. I have felt to weak until now, today

was my first dose and I did some research on it. Is anyone taking this? I have a site I found on explaining how and why it works for the type of deficency' I have. http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/id/4291/searchtext/neurotoxins/ If you can't get it let me know and I'll send a page email to anyone that is interested. This is Part 2 on this particular topic. (Neurotoxins) Link available for Part 1 also in there. Let me know what ya'll think. And if anyone has any other findings for taking Actos (mine is for MSH-Leptin levels) let me know. Its given for Diabetes type 2 originally I believe. I'm not a diabetic. Though it does run in my family. My 47 yr. old siter died in 2000 from complications of the disease.I need suggestions on what type of diet would be best with

Actos. Dr. Kolb said High Protien-low Carb. But I'm not too familiar with many. I've heard Atkins, but I don't agree with that large amount protein and the suggested types. I guess I could alter it. Well I feel like I'm back into the land of the Living. Who knows, after 6-12 months of detox/flushes I might just see what normal is suppose to feel like. Thanks for all the Prayers ya'll have done for me. I know I felt the hand of God on me through it all. I appreciate and Love you all, Its so good to be back,a

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I am so glad you are doing better. Sounds like Dr. Kolb did a great job. Do you know if a PS has to do a MRI to see if implants are leaking or can a gynecologist do this? I am saving money for an explant with Kolb or Feng. But, Kolb is closer for me.

Take care and write when it is convenient.

Thanks,

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Hi a!

Congratulations for being among the implant less! :)

Since you have lymph sluggishness, you might want to consider buying a dry

brush to use. Dry brushing your skin helps stimulate your lymph system.

Basically you want to use the brush on your skin prior to your daily shower.

Brush your skin, toward your heart. Exercise is another excellent way to

stimulate your lymph system. The exercise need not be strenuous, just

simply moving will get it working.

Good luck on your recovery!! :)

Kenda

> Hoor-Ray! Thank God I'm explanted! I had no problems with surgery

> like I had expected.

>

> Dr. Kolb explanted me Jan 31.

> (If ya'll remember my PS from 1988 has given me the run around since

> implanted, so I did not know make, etc of what implants I had except

> him telling me in '88, they were foam covered- saline filled. In

> front of muscle. And to massage gently so they would not rupture.

> And of course they would last forever, HA! HA!) Now what really

> was...

>

> Dr. Kolb got in there and I had Surgitek-Poly foam (at one time

> that is)and Silicone gel filled. Can you believe that! She said

> outside of implants were black mold, fungus (implants had been there

> for 19 yrs) The foam was long gone. She did a capsulectomy. Is that

> the same as Enbloc? I'm still confused. No rupture.

> They slowly leaked to half the original size. The left implant had

> embedded into muscle wall(that explains chest pain, smothering) she

> had to remove some muscle on left breast and a piece of shell had

> broke off (not a rupture in shell yet) so she cut that out of the

> surrounding muscle area.

> She removed Lymph nodes from under both arms. I was too

> sick for a up lift right now. Which I don't look as abnormal as I

> expected so far. I do not have the heaviness and smothering now. And

> needless to say I have now Peace of Mind. (Its amazing how

> explanting can do that).

>

> I do highly recommend the 3 day pain pump. I wished it was a 6 day

> pump. Because the 4th day pain really set in. (But with the right

> kind of narcotic you can tolerate it). The drainage tubes weren't as

> bad as I thought either. the tubes removed 6 days later. The only

> problem besides the expected pain from healing is where the lymph

> nodes were removed I developed fluid sacks the size of a large lemon

> in each arm pit. I noticed a few days before tube removal it was

> developing. I have to go Mon and get these drained. Dr. Kolb said

> this sometimes happens with alot of silicone in the area and it

> clogs the lymph draining area, and builds up. She said when she cut

> the lymph nodes out, they were stuck together with alot of stretchy

> silicone. Isn't that wild? My husband said " so Dr. Kolb you got all

> of it " ? she said " just what I cut out around the implants and lymph

> nodes. That my whole body is full of this sticky silicone. And I

> had double whammy- Mold and Silicone- (Bio-Chemical Toxicity). And

> it would take a while to detox/flush it out.

> Fri night she told me to push this fluid sack down into a drain

> pocket she made below that area for drainage. Then to hold it in

> that pocket and quickly secure a ace bandage around my arm pit.

> Well that didn't happen. It hurt so bad trying to push this I cried.

> All night Fri and all day Sat. I stayed in bed. I had severe pain

> throbbing, all down my arms and radiating to my ring finger on both

> hands. The pain med did not help. Finally Sunday it eased with pain

> med. I dread her draining them. As far as chest/breast pain from

> surgery, I have the occasional sharp aches, but the burning and

> throbbing is gone. Tonight(late-late Sun) is the first time though I

> have felt like getting on the computer. So it'll take me a few days

> to read all the post I've missed since Jan 29.

>

> I'm sorry this is so long but I need to see if anyone is familiar

> with something.

> When Dr. Kolb done all her blood work, and one of the results were

> my MSH was low (30) and my Leptin level was 300 (normal is 1.1-

> 27.1). She gave me a rx of Actos to start when I start back to

> eating normal. I have felt to weak until now, today was my first

> dose and I did some research on it. Is anyone taking this? I have a

> site I found on explaining how and why it works for the type of

> deficency' I have.

>

> http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/id/4291/searchte

> xt/neurotoxins/

>

> If you can't get it let me know and I'll send a page email to anyone

> that is interested. This is Part 2 on this particular topic.

> (Neurotoxins) Link available for Part 1 also in there. Let me know

> what ya'll think. And if anyone has any other findings for taking

> Actos (mine is for MSH-Leptin levels) let me know. Its given for

> Diabetes type 2 originally I believe. I'm not a diabetic. Though it

> does run in my family. My 47 yr. old siter died in 2000 from

> complications of the disease.

> I need suggestions on what type of diet would be best with Actos.

> Dr. Kolb said High Protien-low Carb. But I'm not too familiar with

> many. I've heard Atkins, but I don't agree with that large amount

> protein and the suggested types. I guess I could alter it.

>

> Well I feel like I'm back into the land of the Living. Who knows,

> after 6-12 months of detox/flushes I might just see what normal is

> suppose to feel like.

>

> Thanks for all the Prayers ya'll have done for me. I know I felt

> the hand of God on me through it all.

>

> I appreciate and Love you all,

> Its so good to be back,

> a

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Unless you have gel implants, and MRI wouldn't really

tell you much . . . like if there was mold in your

implants, or if you were reacting to the materials the

implant is made of.

Hugs,

Rogene

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