Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 > my 3yr-old asd son has been putting things in his mouth more > frequently (his shirt, pieces of thread, leaves, paper, etc.) and > licking edges of furniture. can't say that he's hungry because i try > to feed him regularly (meals and snacks and lots of liquid). he's not > doing this before. is this yeast or vitamin deficiency? if it's yeast, > can giving him no-fenol help? if it's vitamin or mineral deficiency, > what can i give him and how much? It can mean zinc deficiency. For my #3, it meant he was eating foods or supplements not tolerated, or that he had a yeast overgrowth issue. No-Fenol given between meals can help with yeast. http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 thanks dana and to everyone who responded to my post. still waiting for the no-fenol i've ordered.. will try giving zinc as well.. is it ok if i use the zinc sulfate creme instead of giving it orally? my son cannot swallow caps yet, all his enzymes and supps are chewables.. not sure if he would want zinc lozenges so i want to try the creme.. > > my 3yr-old asd son has been putting things in his mouth more > > frequently (his shirt, pieces of thread, leaves, paper, etc.) and > > licking edges of furniture. can't say that he's hungry because i try > > to feed him regularly (meals and snacks and lots of liquid). he's not > > doing this before. is this yeast or vitamin deficiency? if it's yeast, > > can giving him no-fenol help? if it's vitamin or mineral deficiency, > > what can i give him and how much? > > > It can mean zinc deficiency. > > For my #3, it meant he was eating foods or supplements not tolerated, > or that he had a yeast overgrowth issue. No-Fenol given between meals > can help with yeast. > > http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Cream is just fine, maybe even better because it bypasses the stomach and nausea issues. Also the sulfate itself is a useful nutrient for detox. G. > is it ok if i use the zinc sulfate creme instead of giving > it orally? my son cannot swallow caps yet, all his enzymes and supps > are chewables.. not sure if he would want zinc lozenges so i want to > try the creme.. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 If someone has issues with Oxalates and Salicilates (sp?), will Sulfates also be an issue? > > Cream is just fine, maybe even better because it bypasses the stomach > and nausea issues. Also the sulfate itself is a useful nutrient for detox. > > G. > > > > is it ok if i use the zinc sulfate creme instead of giving > > it orally? my son cannot swallow caps yet, all his enzymes and supps > > are chewables.. not sure if he would want zinc lozenges so i want to > > try the creme.. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Sulfur is an essential nutrient for breaking down salicylates so they can be used. If your child has a problem with salicylates, most likely it's due to a problem turning sulfur from food into sulfate, the form of sulfur the body actually uses. Supplying the sulfate directly will probably be very helpful. G. wrote: > If someone has issues with Oxalates and Salicilates (sp?), will > Sulfates also be an issue? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2006 Report Share Posted September 26, 2006 > thanks dana and to everyone who responded to my post. > still waiting for the no-fenol i've ordered.. will try giving zinc > as well.. is it ok if i use the zinc sulfate creme instead of giving > it orally? This works for some kids, so definitely you can try it. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks! Becky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 It manifests as a sensory need, but in my experience with my own son, it is coming from the inside. Our chewing/mouthing behaviors improved with anti-fungal treatment, and zinc supplementation. These two eliminated totally the behavior. HTH. Becky <rwulfe@...> wrote: Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks! Becky __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2007 Report Share Posted October 20, 2007 Thanks - I will pass on! Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: Pattison Sent: 10/19/2007 8:13:09 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Putting Things In Mouth It manifests as a sensory need, but in my experience with my own son, it is coming from the inside. Our chewing/mouthing behaviors improved with anti-fungal treatment, and zinc supplementation. These two eliminated totally the behavior. HTH. Becky <rwulfeearthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks! Becky __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 - Do you think that zinc supplements would help a NT child who was putting things in his mouth?? Thanks, Chris > Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks! > Becky > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 Hello I think it is worth a try to see if mouthing/chewing behaviors improve with zinc supplementation. You could get a red blood cell elements (RBC) test to see if there is a zinc deficiency/mineral imbalance present. Hairtests would also indicate this problem, if you have someone qualified to interpret it. In my son's case, we had both these test done many times and the zinc is always super low. When we supplement with zinc, the mouthing behaviors stop almost entirely. He is getting a LOT of zinc (5 times the daily recommended value) as a supplement and his Zinc is still low on the tests, but has gotten slightly higher over the years. He is just simply not absorbing enough of it. There are some transdermal zinc products out there that we tried and they helped some as the absorbtion is different than with the oral forms of zinc. Anyhow, I also want to tell you that we have been treating for yeast for years and the past year or so more aggressively. Have been supplementing with yeast for at least 3 years. Mouthing/chewing does appear occasionally and we address it by changing/adding another antifungal and by adding more zinc/different form of zinc. While the behavior is at its worse, I usually have lots of chewy toys and tubes available for my son he he does not chew on things that would not be appropriate. As I said, the behavior is completely gone right now. For and NT child you may still have a mineral deficiency/imbalance issue present. If you can't get the tests ordered or pay for them, you can start supplementing with zinc 1 times a day, start low at 10 mgs, and go up gradually to two times 10 mg, then 2 times 20 mg, or 4 times 10 mg per day. It is best absorbed if given away from food, or just before bed for the night dose, and preferably the rest be given in many doses broken up throughout the day. Give it away from a multivitamin and especially calcium ans the two minarals compete for absorbtion. If given with calcium, the calcium wins the battle usually. I hope this helped - feel free to write if you have any more questions! Take care, C M <picklespaw@...> wrote: - Do you think that zinc supplements would help a NT child who was putting things in his mouth?? Thanks, Chris> Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks!> Becky> > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Becky, My son did the same thing. He did it more frequently during times of anxiety or change. I gave zinc supplements for a period of time. It seemed to help. It is hard to do a blind study with your child. There are so many variables also. What worked best for my son at school was gum. We first had to work on him not swallowing that all the time. He didn't have to have a large piece in his mouth. Just something to move around in his mouth. He is ten and still uses gum ( dental gum), but he does not eat inedibles hardly at all anymore. He does chew his nails...which is more socially acceptable. poella > > Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks! > Becky > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Hi Poella - I will pass on the info to my friend. Thanks for your input! Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: poellakj Sent: 10/23/2007 9:31:56 AM Subject: [ ] Re: Putting Things In Mouth Becky,My son did the same thing. He did it more frequently during times of anxiety or change. I gave zinc supplements for a period of time. It seemed to help. It is hard to do a blind study with your child. There are so many variables also. What worked best for my son at school was gum. We first had to work on him not swallowing that all the time. He didn't have to have a large piece in his mouth. Just something to move around in his mouth. He is ten and still uses gum ( dental gum), but he does not eat inedibles hardly at all anymore. He does chew his nails...which is more socially acceptable.poella>> Hi all - I have a question. A friend of mine has a son with HFA and the same age as my son - 8. He has recently started to eat and put everything in his mouth. Even things from outside. It is getting to the point where she may have to get an aide just so he isn't a danger to himself. Has anyone gone thru this or have any suggestions or reasons why he is starting this behavior? Is it sensory? Any input would be great. Thanks!> Becky> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2010 Report Share Posted April 13, 2010 Try gum. it is better than other things. consider stomach problems . Sometimes these kids are trying to push a sulfer taste or nausea out. From: rsrosenbaum <markrosenbaum@ ca.rr.com> Subject: putting things in mouth Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:45 AM  My son put things in his mouth that he should not such as legos, pieces of toys, even leaves and grass....... I do not think it is pica and I try to redirect him to suck on his chewy toys but he does not. What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 > My son put things in his mouth that he should not such as legos, pieces of toys, even leaves and grass....... I do not think it is pica and I try to redirect him to suck on his chewy toys but he does not. What now? This was a yeast overgrowth symptom at my house. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2010 Report Share Posted April 14, 2010 My son 3 and half year old also putting everything in his mouth and chewing books and all. I think he likes to feel it or getting the pressure out. I have heard using electric brush or giving pressure to the mouth will help. I have also started giving Zinc. Someone suggested using Cell Salt to reduce it. I have started all these and I will post if there is any improvement. > > My son put things in his mouth that he should not such as legos, pieces of toys, even leaves and grass....... I do not think it is pica and I try to redirect him to suck on his chewy toys but he does not. What now? > > > This was a yeast overgrowth symptom at my house. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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