Re: simple instructions for making Lugol's

February 2, 2011

Hi : we're going to make our own Lugol's as well. You will need something to measure grams (weight) and something to measure milliliters (volume). I don't know anything about a jeweler's scale. I think tsp and cup measurements are probably too large to use.

We don't know exactly how to make it yet but are doing the research; once we have the recipe, it shouldn't be too difficult to make. When we get the recipe, I " ll post it.Ariel

On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 2:00 PM, moontidearts <moontidearts@...> wrote:

After extensive Googling, I've come up with the recipe for making Lugol's, but I'm not yet confident about doing so. First, the measurements are in grams and milliliters. While I have a jeweler's scale, I'm not certain I can get an accurate measurement with that. Can anyone provide instructions using common, American measurements...teaspoons and cups? And would the resulting product be 2% or 5%? I've been dependant on Iodoral, but I'm trying to reduce the cost of my daily supplements, which have reached over $5 a day.

Also, any dosing instructions would also be of help. I'm currently taking 50mg of the Iodoral. And one last question...Would I be able to put my Lugol's drops in with my daily water with apple cider vinegar and wild oregano oil drops, or could this combination lessen the effectiveness of any of the ingredients?

Ah, and if anyone has a valid reason why I/we shouldn't be making out own Lugol's, I'd like to hear about that as well. (I can get the potassium iodide and iodine from an eBay seller once mentioned in this forum.)

M

-- Ariel MonserratPublisher & Managing EditorGreen Egg zinewww.greeneggzine.com

February 2, 2011

This may not be the most accurate conversion, but from what I gather, the

following should work for making Lugol's, but if anyone thinks this is wrong,

please chime in...

5 grams of iodine = 1 teaspoon

10 grams potassium iodide = 2 teaspoons

These are blended together and added to enough distilled water to make 100ml

(about 3.3 ounces water).

I don't know if this blend creates the 2% or 5% solution, so I hope someone will

answer that question, nor do I quite understand the dosing to receive my daily

50mg that I currently take as Iodoral.

As for the ingredients, they can be found on eBay. A seller that was recommended

by another member here is " the_full_orches & #8203;tra " To give you an idea of

cost, their iodine crystals are just $8 for an ounce (28.4 grams) and the

potassium iodide is just $6.50 for 2 ounces (57 grams). As you can see by the

above measurements for making just over 3 ounces, this is absolutely the most

economical way to get your daily iodine, even in therapeutic doses.

Please, if someone knows that being a few grains off on the measurements will

cause any danger, let us know.

M

February 2, 2011

I'm appending below the only recipe I would trust. People if you want

something to do with iodine, please ask on this list. We have a huge

reservoir of correct information here, whereas the web is full of lies and

disinformation, in addition to huge amounts of simple mistaken information.

You must use a scale for the iodine crystals and the postassium iodide

crystals because volume measurements (like teaspoons) are never reliable

for chemistry processes. Larger crystals leave more air space around them

and the weight result in a volume measure, depending on the crystal size,

varies.

If you have a jewelry scale (like for gold, etc.) that is FINE for this

purpose. Most measuring cups these days (the old fashioned pyrex measure

cups) have milliliters marked on them. There are conversion sites

everywhere on the web to find out how many milliliters are in an ounce,

just search for: ounce conversion milliliter

I recently made my own 5% Lugol's for the first time, using the following

recipe/instructions. I cut the quart-jar recipe in half because I didn't

have enough of the iodine crystals to make the full recipe. The recipe

calls for 80% of a quart jar to be filled with water, which I figured to be

25.6 ounces of water total. The only variance I had was that it took 2

full days for the crystals to all melt into the solution.

If you have any further questions, please ask on this list.

--

moderator, Iodine list

===================================================

>These recipes are from /Israel:

>

>I make my own Lugol's original formula (5%). 85ml distilled water mixed

>with 10g postassium iodide (KI), then add 5g iodine crystals(I). It will

>need to set in a covered container to allow all the crystals to dissolve.

>Dose equivalent is 6.25mg/drop (vertical) when the iodine is in solution.

>You will need a scale to measure with. Water weighs one gram/ml. Storage

>period is indefinite with a properly sealed glass bottle. Rubber stoppered

>bottles typically deteriorate within a year.

>

>========================

>Formula to make 5% Lugol's iodine one ounce batch:

>2.84g KI

>1.42g I

>24.14ml HOH

>

>=========================

>Here is the method for making 5% Lugol's iodine (6.25 mg/drop) in a nutshell:

>

>1. Obtain a clean, empty 1 quart container (with lid)

>2. Fill about halfway with distilled water (RO water is also okay)

>3. Put in 44 grams of elemental iodine crystal (you need a scale)

>4. Stir with non-metal spoon (wood is okay).

>5. Put in 88 grams of potassium iodide, and stir some more.

>6. Fill jar to about 80% of capacity with distilled water.

>7. Let it set overnight. If cap is metal, put waxed paper between it and

>the jar; iodine attacks metal.

>8. The next day, it is ready for use.

>

>============================================

>

>To prepare a 10% LUGOL'S SOLUTION, the ratios of the elements change

>somewhat, since elemental iodine is not very soluble in water (it is more

>soluble in alcohol). Thus, a higher percentage of KI is needed.

>

>1. Put 118 ml (4 fl. oz.) of distilled water in a dark glass container.

>2. Mix 33.7 grams (1.18 oz.) of potassium iodide into the solution

>prepared in step one. Use a wooden or plastic spoon to stir--do not use

>metal! Stir until completely mixed.

>3. Add 16.9 grams of iodine crystals to the mix, being very careful not to

>touch the iodine crystals--they can burn the skin. If you come into

>contact with the iodine crystals, wash your hands immediately with plenty

>of water. Stir with the wooden or plastic spoon, and cover with a

>non-metal cover. Let it sit overnight.

>

>In the morning, stir once more or shake the solution. You now have a 10%

>Lugol's solution, which can be taken internally or externally. If you

>choose to take the solution internally, note that the concentration is

>approximately 25.5 mg/drop! (Assuming the drop size is such that 70 drops

>make up 1 teaspoon).

>

>Note that the iodine concentrations posted on www.altcancer.com are

>non-standard; they are including the potassium iodide in the percent

>calculation. The standard Lugol's solution of 5% means that there is 5%

>elemental iodine in the solution and the iodide is not considered.

>However, when you calculate the mg/drop of iodine, the iodide is taken

>into account. To do this, note that iodide is 0.769 times the total KI

>present, the ratio of atomic weights of iodine to potassium. Then, [i +

>KI(0.769)]/ml = the concentration of iodine. So when the altcancer folks

>talk about 15% Lugol's solution, it is really only about 7% according to

>conventional calculations. Their products are good, including the iodine,

>but be aware of the inflated percentages.

>

>Proof that the 10% Lugols solution described above is truly 10%:

>

>16.9 gr/(16.9 gr + 33.7 gr + 118 ml) = 0.10 or (10 %) A similar

>calculation can be performed for the strong iodine tincture.

>

> /Israel

===================================================================

>After extensive Googling, I've come up with the recipe for making Lugol's,

>but I'm not yet confident about doing so. First, the measurements are in

>grams and milliliters. While I have a jeweler's scale, I'm not certain I

>can get an accurate measurement with that. Can anyone provide instructions

>using common, American measurements...teaspoons and cups? And would the

>resulting product be 2% or 5%? I've been dependant on Iodoral, but I'm

>trying to reduce the cost of my daily supplements, which have reached over

>$5 a day.

>

>Also, any dosing instructions would also be of help. I'm currently taking

>50mg of the Iodoral. And one last question...Would I be able to put my

>Lugol's drops in with my daily water with apple cider vinegar and wild

>oregano oil drops, or could this combination lessen the effectiveness of

>any of the ingredients?

>

>Ah, and if anyone has a valid reason why I/we shouldn't be making out own

>Lugol's, I'd like to hear about that as well. (I can get the potassium

>iodide and iodine from an eBay seller once mentioned in this forum.)

>

> M

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

February 2, 2011

I've already answered this question. You need to weigh the crystals to

have any real idea of the strength you've got. I sent a recipe with

several versions in my previous email.

Digital gram scales are easy to come by-- I've seen a note on the web that

they can be purchased in the kitchen dept at Walmart. Here is an example

of one for as little as $10:

http://www.bing.com/shopping/American-Weigh-Scales-AC-650-BLK-Ace-Digital-Pocket\

-Scale-650-X-0/search?q=digital%20gram%20scale & p1=%5bCommerceService+scenario%3d\

%22o%22+docid%3d%22AD5C2443D17A0FF45006%22%5d & wf=Commerce

But your jewelry scale is sufficient for this purpose.

--

At 04:11 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote:

>This may not be the most accurate conversion, but from what I gather, the

>following should work for making Lugol's, but if anyone thinks this is

>wrong, please chime in...

>

>5 grams of iodine = 1 teaspoon

>10 grams potassium iodide = 2 teaspoons

>These are blended together and added to enough distilled water to make

>100ml (about 3.3 ounces water).

>

>I don't know if this blend creates the 2% or 5% solution, so I hope

>someone will answer that question, nor do I quite understand the dosing to

>receive my daily 50mg that I currently take as Iodoral.

>

>As for the ingredients, they can be found on eBay. A seller that was

>recommended by another member here is " the_full_orches & #8203;tra " To give

>you an idea of cost, their iodine crystals are just $8 for an ounce (28.4

>grams) and the potassium iodide is just $6.50 for 2 ounces (57 grams). As

>you can see by the above measurements for making just over 3 ounces, this

>is absolutely the most economical way to get your daily iodine, even in

>therapeutic doses.

>

>Please, if someone knows that being a few grains off on the measurements

>will cause any danger, let us know.

>

> M

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

February 2, 2011

HiI bought Lugol's from that eBay seller...He is OKYou can buy gram scales for less than $10 on eBay...usually shipped from Hong Kong. I ahve bought other Hong Kong items. Sellers are OK but item takes 10-14 days to arrive

There is are a few do_it_yourself Lugol's videos on you tubehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znqej6FBxTAIt is pretty simple chemistry. I'll make my own in the future

GarOn Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:11 PM, moontidearts <moontidearts@...> wrote:

This may not be the most accurate conversion, but from what I gather, the following should work for making Lugol's, but if anyone thinks this is wrong, please chime in...

5 grams of iodine = 1 teaspoon

10 grams potassium iodide = 2 teaspoons

These are blended together and added to enough distilled water to make 100ml (about 3.3 ounces water).

I don't know if this blend creates the 2% or 5% solution, so I hope someone will answer that question, nor do I quite understand the dosing to receive my daily 50mg that I currently take as Iodoral.

As for the ingredients, they can be found on eBay. A seller that was recommended by another member here is " the_full_orches & #8203;tra " To give you an idea of cost, their iodine crystals are just $8 for an ounce (28.4 grams) and the potassium iodide is just $6.50 for 2 ounces (57 grams). As you can see by the above measurements for making just over 3 ounces, this is absolutely the most economical way to get your daily iodine, even in therapeutic doses.

Please, if someone knows that being a few grains off on the measurements will cause any danger, let us know.

M

February 2, 2011

One caution. I have made some weighted blankets for kids with sensory processing disorders, & have been very frustrated by cheap scales. To make a weighted blanket, you have to sew many little packets of weight into the blanket, & I find with some cheap scales, you get a different weight for the same packet every time you weigh it. I have a battery-operated scale that is the WORST. As the battery runs down, the weight changes on every item you weigh. Nothing quite like trying to make 30 or 40 packets all the same weight, only to have them weigh in at a different weight every time! It's enough to make a person say VERY naughty words!AnneOn Feb 2, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Baker wrote: I've already answered this question. You need to weigh the crystals to have any real idea of the strength you've got. I sent a recipe with several versions in my previous email. Digital gram scales are easy to come by-- I've seen a note on the web that they can be purchased in the kitchen dept at Walmart. Here is an example of one for as little as $10: http://www.bing.com/shopping/American-Weigh-Scales-AC-650-BLK-Ace-Digital-Pocket-Scale-650-X-0/search?q=digital%20gram%20scale & p1=%5bCommerceService+scenario%3d%22o%22+docid%3d%22AD5C2443D17A0FF45006%22%5d & wf=Commerce But your jewelry scale is sufficient for this purpose. -- At 04:11 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote: >This may not be the most accurate conversion, but from what I gather, the >following should work for making Lugol's, but if anyone thinks this is >wrong, please chime in... > >5 grams of iodine = 1 teaspoon >10 grams potassium iodide = 2 teaspoons >These are blended together and added to enough distilled water to make >100ml (about 3.3 ounces water). > >I don't know if this blend creates the 2% or 5% solution, so I hope >someone will answer that question, nor do I quite understand the dosing to >receive my daily 50mg that I currently take as Iodoral. > >As for the ingredients, they can be found on eBay. A seller that was >recommended by another member here is "the_full_orches & #8203;tra" To give >you an idea of cost, their iodine crystals are just $8 for an ounce (28.4 >grams) and the potassium iodide is just $6.50 for 2 ounces (57 grams). As >you can see by the above measurements for making just over 3 ounces, this >is absolutely the most economical way to get your daily iodine, even in >therapeutic doses. > >Please, if someone knows that being a few grains off on the measurements >will cause any danger, let us know. > > M ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste

February 3, 2011

There you go, an important consideration. I spent $35 for my digital scale

and it is guaranteed for life. It can be recalibrated. Quality is worth

something.

--

At 12:57 AM 2/3/2011, you wrote:

>One caution. I have made some weighted blankets for kids with sensory

>processing disorders, & have been very frustrated by cheap scales. To make

>a weighted blanket, you have to sew many little packets of weight into the

>blanket, & I find with some cheap scales, you get a different weight for

>the same packet every time you weigh it. I have a battery-operated scale

>that is the WORST. As the battery runs down, the weight changes on every

>item you weigh. Nothing quite like trying to make 30 or 40 packets all the

>same weight, only to have them weigh in at a different weight every time!

>It's enough to make a person say VERY naughty words!

>

>Anne

>

>On Feb 2, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Baker wrote:

>

>>

>>I've already answered this question. You need to weigh the crystals to

>>have any real idea of the strength you've got. I sent a recipe with

>>several versions in my previous email.

>>

>>Digital gram scales are easy to come by-- I've seen a note on the web that

>>they can be purchased in the kitchen dept at Walmart. Here is an example

>>of one for as little as $10:

>><http://www.bing.com/shopping/American-Weigh-Scales-AC-650-BLK-Ace-Digital-Poc\

ket-Scale-650-X-0/search?q=digital%20gram%20scale & p1=%5bCommerceService+scenario\

%3d%22o%22+docid%3d%22AD5C2443D17A0FF45006%22%5d & wf=Commerce>http://www.bing.com\

/shopping/American-Weigh-Scales-AC-650-BLK-Ace-Digital-Pocket-Scale-650-X-0/sear\

ch?q=digital%20gram%20scale & p1=%5bCommerceService+scenario%3d%22o%22+docid%3d%22\

AD5C2443D17A0FF45006%22%5d & wf=Commerce

>>

>>But your jewelry scale is sufficient for this purpose.

>>

>>--

>>

>>At 04:11 PM 2/2/2011, you wrote:

>> >This may not be the most accurate conversion, but from what I gather, the

>> >following should work for making Lugol's, but if anyone thinks this is

>> >wrong, please chime in...

>> >

>> >5 grams of iodine = 1 teaspoon

>> >10 grams potassium iodide = 2 teaspoons

>> >These are blended together and added to enough distilled water to make

>> >100ml (about 3.3 ounces water).

>> >

>> >I don't know if this blend creates the 2% or 5% solution, so I hope

>> >someone will answer that question, nor do I quite understand the dosing to

>> >receive my daily 50mg that I currently take as Iodoral.

>> >

>> >As for the ingredients, they can be found on eBay. A seller that was

>> >recommended by another member here is " the_full_orches & #8203;tra " To give

>> >you an idea of cost, their iodine crystals are just $8 for an ounce (28.4

>> >grams) and the potassium iodide is just $6.50 for 2 ounces (57 grams). As

>> >you can see by the above measurements for making just over 3 ounces, this

>> >is absolutely the most economical way to get your daily iodine, even in

>> >therapeutic doses.

>>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

February 6, 2011

Where did you get the digital scale and what units of measure does it weigh?Sent from my iPhone 4On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:53 PM, Baker <vbaker@...> wrote: