Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

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Hi Barb,

Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the 12.5 size tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is needed in every part of the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through the thyroid about every 18 minutes, so its good you are taking iodine and the companion nutrients. Eating an organic diet as much as possible is also a good idea, as is giving up gluten found in breads, pastries, pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of pure water and taking iodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are usually not cancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase' yours is. Also, anytime we have nodules, it’s the bodies way of asking for more iodine. Kathleen

If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had mygoiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo hassuggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral dailyand supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to do? Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.Not certain what to do.Thanks.Barb

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Thank you Kathleen

Been organic since 2005 ( Trudeau's book). Since daughter is gluten

intolerant, I too, do gluten free. It's been a year now.

Trying to get a whole house reverse osmosis. We have fluoridated water and

buying bottled is getting costly. I am also cooking with coconut (oil) ! Yes.

To your question, one 12.5 mg tab a day. Should I just increase to another

half? I don't believe I am hypo for all my numbers (although to ME they seem

low) are in range. Nothing has been done for me or to me other than tests and

" remove it " . I do take Fucothin. The seaweed caps? I do believe they help

keep fat off the waist. i really do.

How many FNA's before you decide to remove or just decide not to have surgery?

>

> Hi Barb,

> Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the 12.5 size

tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is needed in every part of

the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through the thyroid about every 18

minutes, so its good you are taking iodine and the companion nutrients. Eating

an organic diet as much as possible is also a good idea, as is giving up gluten

found in breads, pastries, pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of

pure water and taking iodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are

usually not cancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase'

yours is. Also, anytime we have nodules, it's the bodies way of asking for more

iodine. Kathleen

> If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

>

>

>

> Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my

> goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to do?

> Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

>

> Not certain what to do.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Barb

>

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Hi Barb,

Let me tell you my story...if you have a minute..I will try to make it short.

A little over 25 years ago I found a nodule on my thyroid. Went to the endo, had a FNA and was told there were Hurthle cells found which they said meant cancer. Was advised to have my thyroid removed. I thought there must be a better way. (no internet then). Happened to be in the health food store and found Dr. Max Gersons book, A Cancer Therapy: results of 50 Cases. ( It’s a dietary approach to healing cancer) www.gerson.org . In the book I found cured thyroid cancer patients. The Gerson Therapy patient utilizes organic veggie juices and diet, as well as other modalities. One of those modalities is natural thyroid hormone (most cancer patients are hypothyroid) and Lugol's solution. I did the therapy very stridently for a couple of years and still follow the principles of all organic, thyroid and iodine every day; now in the form of Iodoral. ( I take between 75mg and 100 mg).

Last March I noticed my nodule was a bit bigger making it uncomfortable to swallow, this was alarming and I now realize perhaps it had just swelled up to capture the iodine I was taking; but because it alarmed me, I ended up having a TT. (which I now regret, to say the least)....but I have to tell you, when they looked at the nodule they removed and the thyroid gland itself, they found NO malignancy...and NO Hurthle cells! So even though I am sad I got alarmed and had it out, it shows me that the Gerson diet AND especially the iodine totally must have killed the Hurtle cells they said were dangerous/cancerous.

About the seaweed; they say the oceans are so polluted now with heavy metals, that its best to take Lugols and not seaweed to get your iodine. Have you read our FILES section, there is a lot of good information there that will answer many of your questions. And I continue to learn so much from others from these daily emails. Your diet sounds very healthy and that’s so good you are going to get rid of the fluoride in your water; When you had your blood work for your thyroid, did they test FT3 and FT4? These are the important tests, not TSH. TSH is worthless to gauge how the thyroid is working. Also, being in range, but still LOW, might be something to look at and you might want to consider NTH.

Hope this wasn’t too long, and hope you enjoy the info in our FILE section. Best, Kathleen

If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid> > > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to do? > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> > Not certain what to do.> > Thanks.> > Barb>

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Barb,Since you have nodules, your body is looking for more. I would go up to at least 50 mg a day, even more. You want to see if you can get those nodules to go away, and since you have had them for 5-6 years, you probably really need lots of iodine. We are hearing higher than 25 mg is probably what is needed to maintain, you need to heal. If your body really ever has enough, you will just urinate out the extra, so don’t worry about taking too much. Donna in IL Thank you Kathleen :)Been organic since 2005 ( Trudeau's book). Since daughter is gluten intolerant, I too, do gluten free. It's been a year now.Trying to get a whole house reverse osmosis. We have fluoridated water and buying bottled is getting costly. I am also cooking with coconut (oil) ! Yes. To your question, one 12.5 mg tab a day. Should I just increase to another half? I don't believe I am hypo for all my numbers (although to ME they seem low) are in range. Nothing has been done for me or to me other than tests and " remove it " . I do take Fucothin. The seaweed caps? I do believe they help keep fat off the waist. i really do. How many FNA's before you decide to remove or just decide not to have surgery? >> Hi Barb,> Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the 12.5 size tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is needed in every part of the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through the thyroid about every 18 minutes, so its good you are taking iodine and the companion nutrients. Eating an organic diet as much as possible is also a good idea, as is giving up gluten found in breads, pastries, pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of pure water and taking iodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are usually not cancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase' yours is. Also, anytime we have nodules, it's the bodies way of asking for more iodine. Kathleen > If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid> > > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to do? > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> > Not certain what to do.> > Thanks.> > Barb>

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WOW. 50mg? What about the detox feelings? I did experience them with

just the 12.5 !! But I keep my celtic salt close by. Well, then that's

it. I will just being the increase starting today...just took another

1/2. I should probably order the 25 mg too, huh? Is there a benefit

using the Lugol's? I have read messy, icky taste, etc. May I ask why

you prefer the Lugol's liquid ? I really am not sure why I stopped at

just one tablet. Thanks, Donna

> >

> > Hi Barb,

> > Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the

12.5 size tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is needed

in every part of the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through the

thyroid about every 18 minutes, so its good you are taking iodine and

the companion nutrients. Eating an organic diet as much as possible is

also a good idea, as is giving up gluten found in breads, pastries,

pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of pure water and taking

iodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are usually not

cancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase' yours

is. Also, anytime we have nodules, it's the bodies way of asking for

more iodine. Kathleen

> > If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

> >

> >

> >

> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my

> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to

do?

> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> >

> > Not certain what to do.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Barb

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Oh Kathleen, NO! I am so sorry to hear that. Happy that there was no

cancer, sorry your thyroid was removed.

You can only do what you feel is best. With doctors scaring us left

and right with the possibility of CANCER--you just don't know. I do

understand. I have a HUMONGOUS hole in my upper arm from a superficial

spreading melanoma. That is what the report claimed it to be. The

specialist I went to AFTER the surgery looked at my slides and said

" they got it all with the biopsy " . I almost blacked out. Then he goes

on to say " we no longer do wide excisions for small lesions that are on

top of the skin, any longer. " Sucks to be me, huh?

I don't want surgery. I see the awfulness that my Hashimoto's /

hypothyroid daughter endures daily. No thanks. Then with all her other

" things " - no doctor really will help her other than order some stupid

test and write a script that does not do a thing. Sorry about the rant.

I will do some research on gerson. I love juicing. Although I may not

have the right type--doesn't do rinds/skins. I was doing a few

protocols for cancer since I have had about 10-12 xrays/ct scans because

of the melanoma within the past 10 years. That worries me as well.

My pcp ordered TSH 03/2010 - TSH 3RD GENERATION 1.60 mIU/L (RefRange >

or = 20 Years 0.40 - 4.50) and T4, FREE 0.8 (RefRange 0.8-1.8 ng/dL)

The endo ordered these also in March: T3, TOTAL 81 (in range)

(RefRabge 76-181 ng/dL) both done by Quest.

Then the surgeon ordered these in September - T4, FREE 0.86 (Limits

0.58 - 1.64 ng/dL)

TSH 2.22 (Limits 0.30 - 4.20 mcIU/mL)

T3, FREE 2.92 (Limits 2.30-4.50 pg/mL) I will be seeing another

endo in February and will bring this up with him. I have a feeling

since I canceled surgery in September for thyroid, he knows I want to

try something else. But am I to understand my nodules will NOT shrink?

Since it has been such a long time? To know I have had this since 2005

and the endo did NOTHING. Makes me even angrier. They're gonna kill ya

either way, I feel sometimes.

Thank you so much for the info. Will be looking thru the files.

~~Barb

> >

> > Hi Barb,

> > Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the

12.5 size tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is needed

in every part of the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through the

thyroid about every 18 minutes, so its good you are taking iodine and

the companion nutrients. Eating an organic diet as much as possible is

also a good idea, as is giving up gluten found in breads, pastries,

pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of pure water and taking

iodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are usually not

cancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase' yours

is. Also, anytime we have nodules, it's the bodies way of asking for

more iodine. Kathleen

> > If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

> >

> >

> >

> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had

my

> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what

to do?

> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> >

> > Not certain what to do.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Barb

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don’t take Lugol’s, I take Iodoral because it is easier. I order the 12.5mg because then it is easy to vary the amount, since 6 of us are taking it in my family. Are you taking all the companion nutrients? That is really important. And if your detox pathways are working well, you won’t necessarily feel detoxing. You did say you have had them. Are you taking anything to support the liver for detoxing? That would really help. Also, making sure your bowels are working well, moving them 2-3 times a day. Some take even more than 50 mg, especially when they are working on healing major problems like yours. It is up to you to see how much you can handle/need. Since you have had the problems for so long, it might take a long time. I have heard for every year you have had the problem, you need to allow at least one month of healing. It took time before that for your body to get out of wack, so be patient with healing, and don’t let the doctors scare you! J Donna in IL From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of mzookiejSent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 4:12 PMiodine Subject: Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid WOW. 50mg? What about the detox feelings? I did experience them withjust the 12.5 !! But I keep my celtic salt close by. Well, then that'sit. I will just being the increase starting today...just took another1/2. I should probably order the 25 mg too, huh? Is there a benefitusing the Lugol's? I have read messy, icky taste, etc. May I ask whyyou prefer the Lugol's liquid ? I really am not sure why I stopped atjust one tablet. Thanks, Donna> >> > Hi Barb,> > Why are you on only one tablet of Iodoral daily? Do you mean the12.5 size tablet? If it was me, I would take more , as iodine is neededin every part of the body, not just the thyroid. Blood goes through thethyroid about every 18 minutes, so its good you are taking iodine andthe companion nutrients. Eating an organic diet as much as possible isalso a good idea, as is giving up gluten found in breads, pastries,pastas. Keeping your diet clean, drinking lots of pure water and takingiodine is the way I would go Remember, thyroid nodules are usually notcancerous, but doing these things will be so helpful 'just incase' yoursis. Also, anytime we have nodules, it's the bodies way of asking formore iodine. Kathleen> > If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid> >> >> >> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what todo?> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> >> > Not certain what to do.> >> > Thanks.> >> > Barb> >>> ________________________________>

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Hi Donna

I'm behind and not a moderator, but allow me to weigh in if I may. Sorry if

this is repeat info

Dh and I take Lugol's. If you're careful, it's not messy. I even mixed it up

myself! No stains to speak of, and if you do splash, vitamin C powder (even

from a crushed tab) will take care of it.

We have just gotten to 50 mg (8 drops of 5%). I am really only now feeling it

'kick in' and other than a few days of higher temps (which actually was a nice

change) I haven' felt any notable detox. DH has developed a 'cold' which for

his smoker's body is probably detox.

Not everyone has bad detox. And I would suggest you try a higher dose. There

are ways to deal with detox, should it happen.

Jaye

>

> WOW. 50mg? What about the detox feelings? I did experience them with

> just the 12.5 !! But I keep my celtic salt close by. Well, then that's

> it. I will just being the increase starting today...just took another

> 1/2. I should probably order the 25 mg too, huh? Is there a benefit

> using the Lugol's? I have read messy, icky taste, etc. May I ask why

> you prefer the Lugol's liquid ? I really am not sure why I stopped at

> just one tablet. Thanks, Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Jaye,

Actually that was my question I was posing TO Donna! But I thank you

for your reply. I took two Iodoral tabs today that equals 25 mg. No

detox. I am surprised. I suppose I will stay at two for a couple of

days and maybe next week begin with three. I did get a slight headache,

a feeling of fullness in my head that quickly dissipated with the Salt

Water. I do have a teeny headache now, but since I have all my silver

fillings, I am sure I have quite the amount of toxins! I was just

looking at protocols to assist with mercury. Might even convince my

doctor to test me for them.

Thank you again for the information. I can't wait to get on a

healing amount of Iodine. It can't happen soon enough. I see my endo

in a couple weeks.

~~Barb

> >

> > WOW. 50mg? What about the detox feelings? I did experience them

with

> > just the 12.5 !! But I keep my celtic salt close by. Well, then

that's

> > it. I will just being the increase starting today...just took

another

> > 1/2. I should probably order the 25 mg too, huh? Is there a

benefit

> > using the Lugol's? I have read messy, icky taste, etc. May I ask

why

> > you prefer the Lugol's liquid ? I really am not sure why I stopped

at

> > just one tablet. Thanks, Donna

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know if this applies to thyroid surgery, but I know for some kinds of surgery, you have to sign a release for complete removal before you start. For example, I had surgery for fibroids (when I was childless & very much wanted children) & I had to sign a release for a complete hysterectomy if the doc decided that that was necessary. The resident who assisted at the surgery told me that I was very lucky that the surgeon removed the fibroids & repaired my uterus. It was hours of work for him, & she said a lot of docs would have just done a hysterectomy, & told me when I woke up that they had no other choice.AnneOn Jan 27, 2011, at 11:53 AM, mzookiej wrote: Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna. All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to do? Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th. Not certain what to do. Thanks. Barb

[Guest guest]

Funny you should mention that Anne because that is one of my biggest worries in

having my large nodules removed. Let's face it..you're at their mercy. I am

SERIOUSLY thinking of seeing psychic healer in Brazil to remove my nodules

because I think the odds would be far greater in my favor. Unfortunately 100 mgs

Lugol's and painting hasn't reduced them and like Kathleen they are slowly

growing and causing issues with swallowing. Plus...I hate that I look like a

bull frog (yes they show that much!)

Karin

>

> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my

> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to

> > do?

> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> >

> > Not certain what to do.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Have you seen the pictures of the 11 year old who's goiter was reduced by iodine?

iodine/photos/album/444563909/pic/list

If that doesn't work then go to the PHOTOS section of the group and it is the first folder.

Steph

Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

Funny you should mention that Anne because that is one of my biggest worries in having my large nodules removed. Let's face it..you're at their mercy. I am SERIOUSLY thinking of seeing psychic healer in Brazil to remove my nodules because I think the odds would be far greater in my favor. Unfortunately 100 mgs Lugol's and painting hasn't reduced them and like Kathleen they are slowly growing and causing issues with swallowing. Plus...I hate that I look like a bull frog (yes they show that much!)Karin> > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to > > do?> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> >> > Not certain what to do.> >> > Thanks.> >> > Barb> >> >>

[Guest guest]

HI Barb

Yes, I realized my mistake almost as soon as I sent my message!

Sorry.

I have 'silver' fillings too and am wondering where to go from here...

Jaye

> > >

> > > WOW. 50mg? What about the detox feelings? I did experience them

> with

> > > just the 12.5 !! But I keep my celtic salt close by. Well, then

> that's

> > > it. I will just being the increase starting today...just took

> another

> > > 1/2. I should probably order the 25 mg too, huh? Is there a

> benefit

> > > using the Lugol's? I have read messy, icky taste, etc. May I ask

> why

> > > you prefer the Lugol's liquid ? I really am not sure why I stopped

> at

> > > just one tablet. Thanks, Donna

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery!

Leaving " them " in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready in

another state--he was the only one that claimed he could do the

myomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit for

MRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me so

much trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say " hysterectomy. you don't

need it anymore. " Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I could

control throwing something at them and probably being arrested for

assault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it up

to arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freeking

kidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact to

find if you really graduated?

I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removed

her " possibly cancerous " lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.

Thanks again.

~~~Barb

>

> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my

> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to

> > do?

> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> >

> > Not certain what to do.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes , I saw that photo when I first started taking iodine and I was

hoping mine would shrink too! I started taking Iodoral in Oct 2009 and I've been

at 100mg for 6 months at least. I started painting about a month ago at night. I

had a good acupuncture session with my ND but it really didn't shrink. I'm going

to do a few more just to see.I eat well (NT and gluten free)all my companion

nutrients (plus) I am waiting for my most recent blood results to come back and

I asked to test my R T3, but I don't think that would keep my goiter enlarged

would it? If I had surgery to remove just my nodules I think I wouldn't

mind...but I don't trust them not to remove the whole thing like Anne talked

about.

Karin

> >

> > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my

> > > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to

> > > do?

> > > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> > >

> > > Not certain what to do.

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> > > Barb

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Karin, they can't remove just the nodules, they have to remove either half the thyroid or all of it. Kathleen

Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

Yes , I saw that photo when I first started taking iodine and I was hoping mine would shrink too! I started taking Iodoral in Oct 2009 and I've been at 100mg for 6 months at least. I started painting about a month ago at night. I had a good acupuncture session with my ND but it really didn't shrink. I'm going to do a few more just to see.I eat well (NT and gluten free)all my companion nutrients (plus) I am waiting for my most recent blood results to come back and I asked to test my R T3, but I don't think that would keep my goiter enlarged would it? If I had surgery to remove just my nodules I think I wouldn't mind...but I don't trust them not to remove the whole thing like Anne talked about.Karin> > > > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> > > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> > > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> > > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> > > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to > > > do?> > > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> > >> > > Not certain what to do.> > >> > > Thanks.> > >> > > Barb> > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Anne,

My did, I also opted not to have the surgery.

I did boost my vit E.

Bonnie

Re: Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.

In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to> > do?> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> >> > Not certain what to do.> >> > Thanks.>

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As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)AnneOn Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote: Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready in another state--he was the only one that claimed he could do the myomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit for MRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me so much trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don't need it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I could control throwing something at them and probably being arrested for assault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it up to arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freeking kidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact to find if you really graduated? I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removed her "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same. Thanks again. ~~~Barb > > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my > > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna. > > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has > > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily > > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to > > do? > > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th. > > > > Not certain what to do. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Barb > > > > >

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The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things.  Pam

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

 

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you  on " getting rid of the problem. " If you read " The Castrated Woman, " she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

AnneOn Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:   Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery!

Leaving " them " in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready in another state--he was the only one that claimed he could do the myomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit for

MRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me so much trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say " hysterectomy. you don't need it anymore. " Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I could

control throwing something at them and probably being arrested for assault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it up to arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freeking kidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact to

find if you really graduated? I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removed her " possibly cancerous " lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same. Thanks again. ~~~Barb

> > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my > > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna. > > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has

> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily > > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to > > do? > > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> > > > Not certain what to do. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Barb > > > > >

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Balance. Yes. Me thinks that what " they " are worried about. We will

no longer need them and their scalpels. *hope hope hope.

Until then - the nodules STAY! (And to think I once trusted their

every word)

Barb

> > >

> > > > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have

> > had my

> > > > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.

> > > > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo

has

> > > > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily

> > > > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure

> > what to

> > > > do?

> > > > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.

> > > >

> > > > Not certain what to do.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks.

> > > >

> > > > Barb

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

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Years back, I had breast pain. Dr. said Fibroids and to stop drinking any caffeine. I was drinking 2 caffeinated sodas a day at the time. Once I stopped drinking the sodas, pain went away.

Caffeine contributes to fibroids, one can take all the iodine they want, but if they have caffeine in their diet, it probably won't matter.

gwen

Re: Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things. Pam

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.

In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>> > Do you worry/wonder if there could be cancer growing? I have had my> > goiter for five/six years. Have had u/s, uptake scan, fna.> > All inconclusive to exactly what is IN the nodules. Each endo has> > suggested surgery. Or repeat FNA. I am on one Iodoral daily> > and supplements over four months now (one tab) and not sure what to> > do?> > Have an appt with ANOTHER endo on feb 6th.> >> > Not certain what to do.> >> > Thanks.> >> > Barb> >> >>

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Kicking caffeine (giving up coffee---soda was never my drug of choice) was one of the most helpful things I did for my body. Such good advice, Gwen.Joan

Years back, I had breast pain. Dr. said Fibroids and to stop drinking any caffeine. I was drinking 2 caffeinated sodas a day at the time. Once I stopped drinking the sodas, pain went away.

Caffeine contributes to fibroids, one can take all the iodine they want, but if they have caffeine in their diet, it probably won't matter.

gwen

The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things. Pam

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.

In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>

[Guest guest]

I still drink 1-2 cups of coffee. My fibroids appeared with diet coke. I never drank coffee until 8 years later. Fibroids went away within about 3-4 months of iodine. I continue the coffee and they never came back. I think they were caused by aspartame or whatever sweetner diet coke had 30 years back. I stopped using them at that point.Pam

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...> wrote:

 

Kicking caffeine (giving up coffee---soda was never my drug of choice) was one of the most helpful things I did for my body.  Such good advice, Gwen.Joan

 

Years back, I had breast pain.  Dr. said Fibroids and to stop drinking any caffeine.  I was drinking 2 caffeinated sodas a day at the time.  Once I stopped drinking the sodas, pain went away.

Caffeine contributes to fibroids, one can take all the iodine they want, but if they have caffeine in their diet, it probably won't matter.

gwen

 

 

The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things.  Pam

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

 

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.

In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you  on " getting rid of the problem. " If you read " The Castrated Woman, " she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:

 

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving " them " in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say " hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore. " Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher " possibly cancerous " lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>

[Guest guest]

There are quite a few theories about fibroids. One is that they are caused by estrogen dominance -- which would suggest that anything that balances your hormones could help. Many people have reported iodine balancing one or more hormonal systems, so this could be one way iodine helps fight fibroids.One theory I have read is that fibroids are caused by congestion of the liver when it is overwhelmed by toxins. The full iodine protocol tends to promote detox -- which should, theoretically, help the liver. Not coincidentally, some people find that liver issues slow the healing they were hoping for with iodine.As for caffeine, the dose makes the poison. There is research to show that 1-2 cups of coffee per day are good for the liver, & reduce the risk of Alzheimer's (different studies), but that once you go over 2 cups, the benefit is lost, & as your intake increases, increasing harm ensues. (Not to mention that individuals vary a great deal.) And a lot of folks who are vehemently opposed to caffeine nonetheless recommend coffee enemas to detoxify the liver. Personally, I would just as soon send it to my bowels from above...AnneOn Jan 30, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Pamela Valley wrote: I still drink 1-2 cups of coffee. My fibroids appeared with diet coke. I never drank coffee until 8 years later. Fibroids went away within about 3-4 months of iodine. I continue the coffee and they never came back. I think they were caused by aspartame or whatever sweetner diet coke had 30 years back. I stopped using them at that point.Pam On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...> wrote: Kicking caffeine (giving up coffee---soda was never my drug of choice) was one of the most helpful things I did for my body. Such good advice, Gwen.Joan Years back, I had breast pain. Dr. said Fibroids and to stop drinking any caffeine. I was drinking 2 caffeinated sodas a day at the time. Once I stopped drinking the sodas, pain went away. Caffeine contributes to fibroids, one can take all the iodine they want, but if they have caffeine in their diet, it probably won't matter. gwen The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things. Pam On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote: As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance. Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now. In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!) Anne On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote: Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>

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Hi Anne,

You make some good points in your first two paragraphs. However, as a Gerson Person I feel I must explain about coffee enemas. Dr. Max Gerson advised his patients on his cancer therapy not to drink coffee, but had them take coffee enemas because the caffeine is absorbed through the portal vein, goes right to the liver; the liver recognizes it as a toxin and dumps the caffeine , dumping other toxins with as well. These coffee enemas are vital to the Therapy as the patients are breaking down tumours/toxins so fast, the coffee enemas help the liver move them out of the body. Drinking coffee does not have this effect. When he first started his therapy he did not use coffee enemas, but added them through the years when he found his patients were releasing toxins so fast, they needed the help. ( Dr. Gersons daughter Charlotte, once said however, that her fathers only vice was drinking one cup of coffee a day =-) )

My explanation is in the simplistic form, but just wanted to explain that drinking coffee does not have the same effect as using it in an enema. Best, Kathleen

Re: Re: If you have chosen to keep a goitery thyroid

There are quite a few theories about fibroids. One is that they are caused by estrogen dominance -- which would suggest that anything that balances your hormones could help. Many people have reported iodine balancing one or more hormonal systems, so this could be one way iodine helps fight fibroids.

One theory I have read is that fibroids are caused by congestion of the liver when it is overwhelmed by toxins. The full iodine protocol tends to promote detox -- which should, theoretically, help the liver. Not coincidentally, some people find that liver issues slow the healing they were hoping for with iodine.

As for caffeine, the dose makes the poison. There is research to show that 1-2 cups of coffee per day are good for the liver, & reduce the risk of Alzheimer's (different studies), but that once you go over 2 cups, the benefit is lost, & as your intake increases, increasing harm ensues. (Not to mention that individuals vary a great deal.) And a lot of folks who are vehemently opposed to caffeine nonetheless recommend coffee enemas to detoxify the liver. Personally, I would just as soon send it to my bowels from above...

Anne

On Jan 30, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Pamela Valley wrote:

I still drink 1-2 cups of coffee. My fibroids appeared with diet coke. I never drank coffee until 8 years later. Fibroids went away within about 3-4 months of iodine. I continue the coffee and they never came back. I think they were caused by aspartame or whatever sweetner diet coke had 30 years back. I stopped using them at that point.Pam

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...> wrote:

Kicking caffeine (giving up coffee---soda was never my drug of choice) was one of the most helpful things I did for my body. Such good advice, Gwen.Joan

Years back, I had breast pain. Dr. said Fibroids and to stop drinking any caffeine. I was drinking 2 caffeinated sodas a day at the time. Once I stopped drinking the sodas, pain went away.

Caffeine contributes to fibroids, one can take all the iodine they want, but if they have caffeine in their diet, it probably won't matter.

gwen

The doctors do tell me that 60% of all women have fibroids and many don't realize it. So they are considered normal. They also tend to shrink or disappear in menopause. I was hoping mine would be gone but 3 years of iodine at 50 mg hasn't yet so be patient. My body has healed a ton of breast fibroids in 4 months of this so know it is doing things. Kidneys and liver healed up too. So just a lot of stuff to detox. I am trying 100 or so these days see if that changes things. Pam

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Anne Seals <anneseals@...> wrote:

As far as I'm concerned, I look upon a hysterectomy for fibroids the same way I would taking a hammer to the warning lights on your car's dash board. Those tumors are there to warn you of an imbalance, & removing them does not correct the imbalance.

Of course, the persistence of my fibroids, in spite of the iodine protocol, is discouraging... I was kind of hoping they would be gone by now.

In the meantime, it is amusing to me when docs try to sell you on "getting rid of the problem." If you read "The Castrated Woman," she surveyed a bunch of women who had had hysterectomies, & the average time to feel like crap after a hysterectomy is a year. For myself, I have reached a steady state where the 'broids are not growing or causing me any pain, & have risen high enough into the abdomen that they don't cause me much bladder compression. I am most of the way through menopause, & therefore am only having the very occasional, very light period. A hysterectomy at this point would cause me a LOT more misery than the fibroids do, so I really cannot see how it is to my benefit in any way. And if I ever get my body into proper balance, they will reward me by going away on their own. (That's my theory, & I'm sticking to it!)

Anne

On Jan 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, mzookiej wrote:

Bless you, Anne. I so understand the terrors of agreeing to surgery! Leaving "them" in charge is quite the gamble. I had a surgeon ready inanother state--he was the only one that claimed he could do themyomectomy (sp?) AND I was seriously thinking of being a guinea pit forMRI assisted ultra sounding my fibroids away at Mayo. They caused me somuch trouble. Every surgeon I saw would say "hysterectomy. you don'tneed it anymore." Then I would run out - I wasn't sure if I couldcontrol throwing something at them and probably being arrested forassault. But it angered me that much. To the male docs I chalked it upto arrogance - and stupidity. To the females -- are you freekingkidding me? Where did you go to school and may I please contact tofind if you really graduated?I am fighting surgery now, too. My daughter was 19 when they removedher "possibly cancerous" lobe. It was not. Her life is not the same.Thanks again.~~~Barb>