Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?

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I just found some of what Dr. K says about it.  http://drknews.com/iodine-and-hashimotos/I'll let Steph address this, but essentially, from what I understand, too little iodine is no good for people with Hashimoto's. 

Dr. K is also missing the point that the thyroid is only one organ (of many) that benefits from iodine.  Of course you need to do what you feel comfortable with.  ~WOn Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:36 PM, wendy 56789 <wendy56789@...> wrote:

I haven't read the 2nd book.  What does he say that persuaded you to stay away from iodine?  Admitting ignorance of his theories, I'd personally go with whatever my body told me was right.

~W

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:29 PM, graycinti <vicki_l_davis@...> wrote:

 

Hi all,

Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.

My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.

On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!

Thanks!

Vicki

[Guest guest]

There are many here that have taken iodine successfully with autoimmune thyroid disease. My husband is one of them. He eliminated his antibodies when taking 50 mgs and using the supporting nutrients. There are others with similar stories. I have read Dr. K's book and find some things interesting but his stance on iodine I believe is wrong. If you felt more alive on iodine then why not take it? I think we have gotten too wrapped up in *science* when our body will tell us what is right and wrong for us.

Why did iodine make me come alive?

Hi all,Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!Thanks!Vicki

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Here is his website http://drknews.com/iodine-and-hashimotos/

He states:

As I explained in the book, iodine stimulates the activity of the thyroid peroxidase (TPO) enzyme, which triggers thyroid hormone production. This is why so many thyroid supplements contain iodine, even though the thyroid only needs enough iodine to fit on the head of a pin each day in order to perform its duties.

What he is missing in this is a critical point. When iodine is supplied in a high enough quantity, Iodolipids are formed which puts the breaks on the TPO process that triggers thyroid hormone production. So his logic is flawed. He only takes you part of the way to explaining thyroid mechanism. Dr. Brownstein does explain the entire process and the excerpt from his book is in the new member document in the files.

Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?

I haven't read the 2nd book. What does he say that persuaded you to stay away from iodine? Admitting ignorance of his theories, I'd personally go with whatever my body told me was right.~W

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:29 PM, graycinti <vicki_l_davis@...> wrote:

Hi all,Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!Thanks!Vicki

[Guest guest]

You had a good reaction because your body needed it. Every gland and mucosal lining uses iodine - actually iodine can be found in every cell.

Steph

Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?

Thanks & ,I likely will try the iodine again because I'm devastated that the benefits have stopped since I quit it. I will also get it muscle tested and see what happens.I sure wish I could find more functional/holistic practitioners backing iodine use for Hashimoto's patients since the Kharrazian book came out. I've looked and looked and haven't found any. Why aren't people speaking out in support if they're sure of their results? It looks to me like the tide is turning against its use...and I can't even understand the technicalities of the argument! Can anyone explain to me WHY I may have had such a good reaction to the Lugol's? Confidence, productivity, sociability?? Mighty priceless stuff for such a cheap supplement!!Thanks,Vicki> > > Hi all,> > Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.> > My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.> > On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!> > Thanks!> Vicki>

[Guest guest]

Why is that a good thing? It sounds like it inhibits the thyroid. Or is it only a good thing when too much thyroid hormone is being produced?

BarbF

In a message dated 1/14/2011 7:22:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ladybugsandbees@... writes:

When iodine is supplied in a high enough quantity, Iodolipids are formed which puts the breaks on the TPO process that triggers thyroid hormone production

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It's the self regulating process. When too little iodine is given the TPO process can run out of control burning the cells and increasing mutation of the cells which increases antibodies to attack these mutated cells. But when enough iodine is supplied the body creates iodolipids that turn the TPO process off when more thyroid hormone is not needed by the body. The body is smart to know when to do what but it needs the right tools to make it function correctly.

Steph

Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?

Why is that a good thing? It sounds like it inhibits the thyroid. Or is it only a good thing when too much thyroid hormone is being produced?

BarbF

In a message dated 1/14/2011 7:22:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ladybugsandbees@... writes:

When iodine is supplied in a high enough quantity, Iodolipids are formed which puts the breaks on the TPO process that triggers thyroid hormone production

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicki,

I started buying lugol's from ebay and have been using it, works great, tastes

the same, no ill effects at all. It is much cheaper than anywhere else. Read

this message set:

iodine/message/68614

Other people on this group use it as well. Saved me from having to give it up!

Also he sells the ingredients to make it, too. I'm going to start doing that

next year!

Best,

Sally

[Guest guest]

This is my first post. I have Kharrazian's book, and just 2 paragraphs after

explaining that iodine stimulates TPO activity, he writes this:

" Some popular books on iodine therapy recommend supplementing with large doses

of iodine to quench symptoms of Hashimoto's. That's because taking mega-doses of

iodine will shut down the production of the TPO and inhibit thyroid hormone

formation. As a result, the thyroid becomes less active, suppressing

hyperthyroid symptoms. "

So in other words, a little iodine will increase thyroid hormone and aggravate

Hashi's, and a lot of iodine will decrease thyroid hormone and suppress

hyperthyroidism. But there is no " right amount " of iodine, according to Dr. K,

for someone with Hashi's.

I'm having trouble with his logic.

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt

better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book

then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got

so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.

>

> My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it

about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I

unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's

something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's

opinion.

>

> On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my

autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!

>

> Thanks!

> Vicki

>

[Guest guest]

Yes Iodine does inhibit TPO but it is designed to. When iodine is supplied in enough amounts the body creates iodolipids which put the brakes on this TPO (oxidation) process which stops the burning of the cells which mutates it and creates and autoimmune attack. The body has checks and balances so that things don't run wild and iodine keeps the process in check.

Steph

Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?

This is my first post. I have Kharrazian's book, and just 2 paragraphs after explaining that iodine stimulates TPO activity, he writes this:"Some popular books on iodine therapy recommend supplementing with large doses of iodine to quench symptoms of Hashimoto's. That's because taking mega-doses of iodine will shut down the production of the TPO and inhibit thyroid hormone formation. As a result, the thyroid becomes less active, suppressing hyperthyroid symptoms."So in other words, a little iodine will increase thyroid hormone and aggravate Hashi's, and a lot of iodine will decrease thyroid hormone and suppress hyperthyroidism. But there is no "right amount" of iodine, according to Dr. K, for someone with Hashi's.I'm having trouble with his logic.> > > Hi all,> > Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.> > My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.> > On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!> > Thanks!> Vicki>

[Guest guest]

So in other words, Kharrazian doesn't interpret the science correctly,

because he is influenced by the false theories about iodine that are

prevalent in Western medicine. Recommend throwing away that book and

getting Dr Brownstein's. --

At 08:33 PM 1/18/2011, you wrote:

>Yes Iodine does inhibit TPO but it is designed to. When iodine is

>supplied in enough amounts the body creates iodolipids which put the

>brakes on this TPO (oxidation) process which stops the burning of the

>cells which mutates it and creates and autoimmune attack. The body has

>checks and balances so that things don't run wild and iodine keeps the

>process in check.

>

>Steph

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>This is my first post. I have Kharrazian's book, and just 2 paragraphs

>after explaining that iodine stimulates TPO activity, he writes this:

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> " Some popular books on iodine therapy recommend supplementing with large

>doses of iodine to quench symptoms of Hashimoto's. That's because taking

>mega-doses of iodine will shut down the production of the TPO and inhibit

>thyroid hormone formation. As a result, the thyroid becomes less active,

>suppressing hyperthyroid symptoms. "

>

>So in other words, a little iodine will increase thyroid hormone and

>aggravate Hashi's, and a lot of iodine will decrease thyroid hormone and

>suppress hyperthyroidism. But there is no " right amount " of iodine,

>according to Dr. K, for someone with Hashi's.

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>I'm having trouble with his logic.

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> > Hi all,

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> > Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt

> better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the

> Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling

> unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.

> >

> > My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is

> it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I

> unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if

> it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on

> somebody's opinion.

> >

> > On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my

> autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Vicki

> >

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~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

He's only taking the process to the 1/2 way point and not finishing it - I think in an effort to make his point. If he finished the biochemistry he would see that what his whole thought process is based on is bogus.

Steph

Re: Why did iodine make me come alive?>>>>This is my first post. I have Kharrazian's book, and just 2 paragraphs >after explaining that iodine stimulates TPO activity, he writes this:>>"Some popular books on iodine therapy recommend supplementing with large >doses of iodine to quench symptoms of Hashimoto's. That's because taking >mega-doses of iodine will shut down the production of the TPO and inhibit >thyroid hormone formation. As a result, the thyroid becomes less active, >suppressing hyperthyroid symptoms.">>So in other words, a little iodine will increase thyroid hormone and >aggravate Hashi's, and a lot of iodine will decrease thyroid hormone and >suppress hyperthyroidism. But there is no "right amount" of iodine, >according to Dr. K, for someone with Hashi's.>>I'm having trouble with his logic.>>>>> >> >> > Hi all,> >> > Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt > better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the > Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling > unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.> >> > My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is > it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I > unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if > it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on > somebody's opinion.> >> > On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my > autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!> >> > Thanks!> > Vicki> >>>>>>~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~--A.J. Muste

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Vicki,

Can I ask how much you were taking daily?

It sounds to me that it was the perfect amount if you felt that good. I think feeling good was a pretty good indictor that your body needed iodine so I would just keep taking it if I were you and then reassess if you start not feeling good.

Corry

From: graycinti <vicki_l_davis@...>Subject: Why did iodine make me come alive?iodine Received: Friday, January 14, 2011, 11:29 PM

Hi all,Big dilemma here - after 2 months of supplementing with Lugol's I felt better then EVER... Confident, productive, social... I read the Brownstein book then the Kharrazian book (which I found more compelling unfortunately) and got so scared of iodine I stopped taking it.My thyroid antibody labs come back next week but I'm wondering, what is it about the iodine that makes one feel so good, and secondly, how will I unequivocally know if iodine is good for ME??? I'd hate to go without if it's something that my body wants (and it isn't harming me) based on somebody's opinion.On the other hand, I don't want to take it if it's actually harming my autoimmunity/thyroid longterm... Help!Thanks!Vicki------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e