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Dani, yes, you can go from hyperthyroid to hypothyroid. It's very common with

Hashimoto's. You can read about it here:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/hashimotos/

>

> Hi,I'm new to the group and getting desperate for help. I can't focus enough

to read much online or offline anymore. I've been having health problems and

strongly suspect it's because of my thyroid. I am not going to a doctor because

of lack of money and lousy insurance, and the doctors around here are just out

for milking the patients for as much money as they can get without really

helping them. Soooo....

>

> I've had IBS-D for years, but a couple of years ago it took a crazy turn for

the worst. A couple of months ago I was so sick with the IBS-D or whatever it

is, and needed to go get a couple of bags of IV fluids for dehydration.

Afterwards, my head had never felt clearer. At that time the emergency place I

went to, took a a few blood tests and one of them was for thyroid. They said

all my blood tests were bad results and wanted to take them again. I haven't

gotten back there yet. Anyway, they said the thyroid was very low, indicating

hypo. What's strange is that years ago a thyroid test indicated that I was

borderline hyperthyroid. Anyway, over the past couple of months my hair has

really thinned and it's scaring me. I think it's stopped now that I'm not in as

bad condition as I was, but haven't noticed it growing back.

>

> Symptoms: thinning hair; tired most of the time; foggy brained; ADD-like;

weight loss due to IBS-D and not knowing what I can eat; really bad memory;

tired and no enery; shoulder joints been sore for about six months now; very

sensitive to caffeine........I'm probably forgetting some symptoms but can't

think, as usual. Oh, I've had anxiety disorder either all of my life, or most

of it.

>

> What do you all think....thyroid problem? Can thryoid fluctuate from hyper to

hypo? I understand that you're not doctors, just wanting opinions and

suggestions (but not telling me to go the doctors). Where do I start, without

having to read alot? (No concentration, very short attention span, I retain

very little of what I read so it's usually a waste of time for me now, and

eyesight not good.)

>

> Also, saw an advertised product that was a combination of iodine and iodide

for thyroid health, that sounded very good. I can't remember where, but can

check. Was thinking of ordering it if I could remember where I saw it. Does

that kind of product sound safe to try? Sorry this is so long....brain fog and

rambling, which seems to be the norm for me now.

> ~dani~

>

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Yes, it’s an excellent book!  Our

family also went gluten free.  I could not get over all the stomach problems it

was causing for our entire family.  My doctor thought I had IBS.  Apparently,

it was coming from the gluten, dairy and soy I was eating.  I felt so much

better after giving those items up!!

Lori 

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group, with questions....

One idea for recovery on the IBS symptoms is to read

" the Maker's Diet. " by Jordan Rubin. He was deathly ill with

IBS or Crohns and no doctor could help him. Someone helped him by eating

a certain very healthy way and he is a picture of health today. I don't

remember enough to describe it.

I also have the brain fog and such. I have been taking the iodine for a

couple of weeks, 25 mg total, along with the Vit. C, Magnesium, Selenium, high

quality Multi vit., and the salt water or extra salt on food. I had

several days of constant post-nasal drip but my head finally is feeling

" empty " and funny symptoms around my ears are going away!!!

If you have been so sick, you might also need to look at fatigued

adrenals. I am sure that is affecting me as well.

From the group page, there are New Member files which have all the

FAQ. Here is one portion:

Supporting Nutrients for taking Iodine -

a. Vit C – 2,000 – 5,000 mgs / day

b. Selenium – 200 – 400 mcg / day

c. Unrefined salt (Celtic) – ½ tsp / day

d. Magnesium – 400 mgs / day

e. Optional – ATP CoFactors -1 tablet 2x / day

On 2/4/2011 6:01 AM, destinysbeckoning wrote:

Hi,I'm new to the group

and getting desperate for help. I can't focus enough to read much online or

offline anymore. I've been having health problems and strongly suspect it's

because of my thyroid. I am not going to a doctor because of lack of money and

lousy insurance, and the doctors around here are just out for milking the

patients for as much money as they can get without really helping them.

Soooo....

I've had IBS-D for years, but a couple of years ago it took a crazy turn for

the worst. A couple of months ago I was so sick with the IBS-D or whatever it

is, and needed to go get a couple of bags of IV fluids for dehydration.

Afterwards, my head had never felt clearer. At that time the emergency place I

went to, took a a few blood tests and one of them was for thyroid. They said

all my blood tests were bad results and wanted to take them again. I haven't

gotten back there yet. Anyway, they said the thyroid was very low, indicating

hypo. What's strange is that years ago a thyroid test indicated that I was

borderline hyperthyroid. Anyway, over the past couple of months my hair has

really thinned and it's scaring me. I think it's stopped now that I'm not in as

bad condition as I was, but haven't noticed it growing back.

Symptoms: thinning hair; tired most of the time; foggy brained; ADD-like;

weight loss due to IBS-D and not knowing what I can eat; really bad memory;

tired and no enery; shoulder joints been sore for about six months now; very

sensitive to caffeine........I'm probably forgetting some symptoms but can't

think, as usual. Oh, I've had anxiety disorder either all of my life, or most

of it.

What do you all think....thyroid problem? Can thryoid fluctuate from hyper to

hypo? I understand that you're not doctors, just wanting opinions and

suggestions (but not telling me to go the doctors). Where do I start, without

having to read alot? (No concentration, very short attention span, I retain

very little of what I read so it's usually a waste of time for me now, and

eyesight not good.)

Also, saw an advertised product that was a combination of iodine and iodide for

thyroid health, that sounded very good. I can't remember where, but can check.

Was thinking of ordering it if I could remember where I saw it. Does that kind

of product sound safe to try? Sorry this is so long....brain fog and rambling,

which seems to be the norm for me now.

~dani~

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Hello new person Dani and welcome,

I have had every symptom you describe--I have Hashimoto's and had my thyroid

removed in 2003. It's particularly bad when your brain doesn't work and you

cant' think to research the situation, isn't it?

You can have what seem like hyperthyroid symptoms and you can be hyperthyroid

and then hypothyroid. In fact, it's common to go hyperthyroid before your

thyroid wears out and you then become hypothyroid. Your symptoms are very

typical hypothyroid symptoms.

Since they told you your thyroid labs were " bad " at a regular hospital that

probably means they are really bad, however, before you go treating things you

do need to see what the status is and that means some labs and a return to the

hospital or a doctor to get them.

You need a complete thyroid panel which most importantly includes what are

called FREE T3 and FREE T4. Insist on the Frees. If you can also get them to

include an iron panel in the same blood draw, you will need that information to

help you treat a thyroid condition.

Other than that, if you can read snippets, go to Stop the Thyroid Madness

website and read articles there.

When you get labs, you can post them on the natural thyroid hormone group or the

thyroidless group--a good group even if you have a thyroid (see links below) and

they will give you good info.

As for the iodine/iodide, you can read the articles posted on this site under

" files " and " links " . I would urge you to pursue the thyroid angle as a starting

place.

thyroidless

NaturalThyroidHormones

>

> Hi,I'm new to the group and getting desperate for help. I can't focus enough

to read much online or offline anymore. I've been having health problems and

strongly suspect it's because of my thyroid. I am not going to a doctor because

of lack of money and lousy insurance, and the doctors around here are just out

for milking the patients for as much money as they can get without really

helping them. Soooo....

>

> I've had IBS-D for years, but a couple of years ago it took a crazy turn for

the worst. A couple of months ago I was so sick with the IBS-D or whatever it

is, and needed to go get a couple of bags of IV fluids for dehydration.

Afterwards, my head had never felt clearer. At that time the emergency place I

went to, took a a few blood tests and one of them was for thyroid. They said

all my blood tests were bad results and wanted to take them again. I haven't

gotten back there yet. Anyway, they said the thyroid was very low, indicating

hypo. What's strange is that years ago a thyroid test indicated that I was

borderline hyperthyroid. Anyway, over the past couple of months my hair has

really thinned and it's scaring me. I think it's stopped now that I'm not in as

bad condition as I was, but haven't noticed it growing back.

>

> Symptoms: thinning hair; tired most of the time; foggy brained; ADD-like;

weight loss due to IBS-D and not knowing what I can eat; really bad memory;

tired and no enery; shoulder joints been sore for about six months now; very

sensitive to caffeine........I'm probably forgetting some symptoms but can't

think, as usual. Oh, I've had anxiety disorder either all of my life, or most

of it.

>

> What do you all think....thyroid problem? Can thryoid fluctuate from hyper to

hypo? I understand that you're not doctors, just wanting opinions and

suggestions (but not telling me to go the doctors). Where do I start, without

having to read alot? (No concentration, very short attention span, I retain

very little of what I read so it's usually a waste of time for me now, and

eyesight not good.)

>

> Also, saw an advertised product that was a combination of iodine and iodide

for thyroid health, that sounded very good. I can't remember where, but can

check. Was thinking of ordering it if I could remember where I saw it. Does

that kind of product sound safe to try? Sorry this is so long....brain fog and

rambling, which seems to be the norm for me now.

> ~dani~

>

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Add me to that club as well Lori! Although I was never told to stop eating

anything and no test other than scopes were done. I was handed many

prescriptions tho. My daughter and I are GF and much better off. ~~~Barb

>

>

>

> Hi,I'm new to the group and getting desperate for help. I can't focus enough

> to read much online or offline anymore. I've been having health problems and

> strongly suspect it's because of my thyroid. I am not going to a doctor

> because of lack of money and lousy insurance, and the doctors around here

> are just out for milking the patients for as much money as they can get

> without really helping them. Soooo....

>

> I've had IBS-D for years, but a couple of years ago it took a crazy turn for

> the worst. A couple of months ago I was so sick with the IBS-D or whatever

> it is, and needed to go get a couple of bags of IV fluids for dehydration.

> Afterwards, my head had never felt clearer. At that time the emergency place

> I went to, took a a few blood tests and one of them was for thyroid. They

> said all my blood tests were bad results and wanted to take them again. I

> haven't gotten back there yet. Anyway, they said the thyroid was very low,

> indicating hypo. What's strange is that years ago a thyroid test indicated

> that I was borderline hyperthyroid. Anyway, over the past couple of months

> my hair has really thinned and it's scaring me. I think it's stopped now

> that I'm not in as bad condition as I was, but haven't noticed it growing

> back.

>

> Symptoms: thinning hair; tired most of the time; foggy brained; ADD-like;

> weight loss due to IBS-D and not knowing what I can eat; really bad memory;

> tired and no enery; shoulder joints been sore for about six months now; very

> sensitive to caffeine........I'm probably forgetting some symptoms but can't

> think, as usual. Oh, I've had anxiety disorder either all of my life, or

> most of it.

>

> What do you all think....thyroid problem? Can thryoid fluctuate from hyper

> to hypo? I understand that you're not doctors, just wanting opinions and

> suggestions (but not telling me to go the doctors). Where do I start,

> without having to read alot? (No concentration, very short attention span, I

> retain very little of what I read so it's usually a waste of time for me

> now, and eyesight not good.)

>

> Also, saw an advertised product that was a combination of iodine and iodide

> for thyroid health, that sounded very good. I can't remember where, but can

> check. Was thinking of ordering it if I could remember where I saw it. Does

> that kind of product sound safe to try? Sorry this is so long....brain fog

> and rambling, which seems to be the norm for me now.

> ~dani~

>

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Have you heard about LDN (Low Dose Naltrexonee) for help with your IBD? There are studies out there that show a big improvement with it. I take it for fibro and anti-aging. Along with pain reduction, I am convinced it has really helped balance my immune system. Have been sick for YEARS! Hoping to get off of disability in a year or two if I can get everything healed. In the meantime, I keep reading.

LDNInfo.org is the website I think. You can also do a search on . There are several LDN groups, one specifically for IBD too. You can learn a lot there.

Glowing,

grace~

As Ghandi taught, the secret to life is to struggle against oppression and to fight for what is needed, but not to be attached to any particular outcome. Therein lies the secret of peace within the chaos."For every failure there's another course of action. When you hit a roadblock, take a detour." - Kay Ash

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Wow, thank you all so much. I have so much to check out and get me started,

once my mind can adjust and I'll take it a step at a time. I wanted to respond

to each reply, but as our phone line keeps going out off and on due to bad

weather, and a bad line, I can't trust I won't get kicked offline again. We're

still on dial up. I appreciate very much each reply, and will start trying to

really focus and make notes, and get started. Sorry this is rushed, but want to

finish some things up online just in case I get kicked off soon. I now feel

there's at least a spark of hope with this health mystery :)

~dani~

>

> Hello new person Dani and welcome,

>

> I have had every symptom you describe--I have Hashimoto's and had my thyroid

removed in 2003. It's particularly bad when your brain doesn't work and you

cant' think to research the situation, isn't it?

>

> You can have what seem like hyperthyroid symptoms and you can be hyperthyroid

and then hypothyroid. In fact, it's common to go hyperthyroid before your

thyroid wears out and you then become hypothyroid. Your symptoms are very

typical hypothyroid symptoms.

>

> Since they told you your thyroid labs were " bad " at a regular hospital that

probably means they are really bad, however, before you go treating things you

do need to see what the status is and that means some labs and a return to the

hospital or a doctor to get them.

>

> You need a complete thyroid panel which most importantly includes what are

called FREE T3 and FREE T4. Insist on the Frees. If you can also get them to

include an iron panel in the same blood draw, you will need that information to

help you treat a thyroid condition.

>

> Other than that, if you can read snippets, go to Stop the Thyroid Madness

website and read articles there.

>

> When you get labs, you can post them on the natural thyroid hormone group or

the thyroidless group--a good group even if you have a thyroid (see links below)

and they will give you good info.

>

> As for the iodine/iodide, you can read the articles posted on this site under

" files " and " links " . I would urge you to pursue the thyroid angle as a starting

place.

>

>

> thyroidless

> NaturalThyroidHormones

>

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Dani,

There's definitely a spark or maybe a bunch of sparks of hope. Darn that you're

on dial-up--that really throws a wrench in the works. Any chance you can get DSL

or cable? It would really help with the researching one step at a time.

Hang in there.

> >

> > Hello new person Dani and welcome,

> >

> > I have had every symptom you describe--I have Hashimoto's and had my thyroid

removed in 2003. It's particularly bad when your brain doesn't work and you

cant' think to research the situation, isn't it?

> >

> > You can have what seem like hyperthyroid symptoms and you can be

hyperthyroid and then hypothyroid. In fact, it's common to go hyperthyroid

before your thyroid wears out and you then become hypothyroid. Your symptoms are

very typical hypothyroid symptoms.

> >

> > Since they told you your thyroid labs were " bad " at a regular hospital that

probably means they are really bad, however, before you go treating things you

do need to see what the status is and that means some labs and a return to the

hospital or a doctor to get them.

> >

> > You need a complete thyroid panel which most importantly includes what are

called FREE T3 and FREE T4. Insist on the Frees. If you can also get them to

include an iron panel in the same blood draw, you will need that information to

help you treat a thyroid condition.

> >

> > Other than that, if you can read snippets, go to Stop the Thyroid Madness

website and read articles there.

> >

> > When you get labs, you can post them on the natural thyroid hormone group or

the thyroidless group--a good group even if you have a thyroid (see links below)

and they will give you good info.

> >

> > As for the iodine/iodide, you can read the articles posted on this site

under " files " and " links " . I would urge you to pursue the thyroid angle as a

starting place.

> >

> >

> > thyroidless

> > NaturalThyroidHormones

> >

>

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I'm behind on the digest; apologies if this is redundant, but I wanted to share

my experience as it might help you.

I suffered with IBS-D and was medicated for anxiety for years. I was also

constantly exhausted and simply didn't realize it. I've removed gluten, sugar,

and dairy from my diet as well as supplementing with iodine.

I'm now free of anxiety meds; anxiety is well under control; IBS is barely a

memory. Now I'm just working on my nodules and candida.

Kim

> >

> > On 2/4/2011 6:01 AM, destinysbeckoning wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi,I'm new to the group and getting desperate for help. I can't focus enough

> > to read much online or offline anymore. I've been having health problems and

> > strongly suspect it's because of my thyroid. I am not going to a doctor

> > because of lack of money and lousy insurance, and the doctors around here

> > are just out for milking the patients for as much money as they can get

> > without really helping them. Soooo....

> >

> > I've had IBS-D for years, but a couple of years ago it took a crazy turn for

> > the worst. A couple of months ago I was so sick with the IBS-D or whatever

> > it is, and needed to go get a couple of bags of IV fluids for dehydration.

> > Afterwards, my head had never felt clearer. At that time the emergency place

> > I went to, took a a few blood tests and one of them was for thyroid. They

> > said all my blood tests were bad results and wanted to take them again. I

> > haven't gotten back there yet. Anyway, they said the thyroid was very low,

> > indicating hypo. What's strange is that years ago a thyroid test indicated

> > that I was borderline hyperthyroid. Anyway, over the past couple of months

> > my hair has really thinned and it's scaring me. I think it's stopped now

> > that I'm not in as bad condition as I was, but haven't noticed it growing

> > back.

> >

> > Symptoms: thinning hair; tired most of the time; foggy brained; ADD-like;

> > weight loss due to IBS-D and not knowing what I can eat; really bad memory;

> > tired and no enery; shoulder joints been sore for about six months now; very

> > sensitive to caffeine........I'm probably forgetting some symptoms but can't

> > think, as usual. Oh, I've had anxiety disorder either all of my life, or

> > most of it.

> >

> > What do you all think....thyroid problem? Can thryoid fluctuate from hyper

> > to hypo? I understand that you're not doctors, just wanting opinions and

> > suggestions (but not telling me to go the doctors). Where do I start,

> > without having to read alot? (No concentration, very short attention span, I

> > retain very little of what I read so it's usually a waste of time for me

> > now, and eyesight not good.)

> >

> > Also, saw an advertised product that was a combination of iodine and iodide

> > for thyroid health, that sounded very good. I can't remember where, but can

> > check. Was thinking of ordering it if I could remember where I saw it. Does

> > that kind of product sound safe to try? Sorry this is so long....brain fog

> > and rambling, which seems to be the norm for me now.

> > ~dani~

> >

>

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